Recruiting just got harder

[TnVol!]

Recruiting won't be harder. Retention will be much harder.

That goes for everyone. Nothing burger.

 

[lilesrt]

You have to make your program worth staying at.

You nailed it.

 

[Devo182]

Ummm you do realize players are already transferring multiple times? This is not new!
It’s been actually happening for a long time. AKA Randy Moss and Cam Newton! Each transferred 3 times.

Transfer yes. But you had to sit.

This isn't about the ability to transfer and is mistitled. It's about sitting or not.

 

[tennesseeduke]

Randy moss never played for Notre dame. He essentially got kicked off, but because he signed an NIL he had to "transfer" to FSU. To say he transferred 3 times is to reach a bit to make your point.

I can keep naming them if you want me to?

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Crazy, what's the reason for transferring so many times?

$$$

 

[njvols]

The transfer portal is about to get even wilder when the NCAA allows players to transfer multiple times

According to this, players will be granted unlimited transfers without penalty.

This is absolutely massive and will have huge implications.

Discuss.

Just my opinion but I think we are finally on the positive side of the slate on NIL and transfer flexibility. We have $ NIL support and a positive vibe w JH. I’m better w the NIL than I am with multiple transfers. This is not to sound like academics matter (ha) but if universities are teaching institutions then they should also teach life lesson stuff…if you’re second string then work harder to be the starter. One time transfer I understand w/o sitting out. Players already making $ and I’m ok with that but this could decimate schools who fire their coaches….going to have to let schools sign huge classes in these situations to rebalance their rosters.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

I can now be a decent recruit and sign a nice little NIL to play at NCST.
Play one year, become freshman all conference and transfer to Wisconsin, who is willing to pay me more in NIL.
Turn a sophomore season into an all conference season and transfer to Auburn for a bigger NIL.
At Auburn I have an all American jr year and then transfer to Ohio state, who outbid bama and Georgia for a massive NIL deal, to play my senior season.

 

[njvols]

Ummm you do realize players are already transferring multiple times? This is not new!
It’s been actually happening for a long time. AKA Randy Moss and Cam Newton! Each transferred 3 times.

Thought they had to sit for second transfer but I could be wrong. Guess this clears the path for our WR from USC/TX

 

[njvols]

Meh



1) It means Bru is eligible

2) Many NIL deals are structured as multi-year deals, so "nil shopping" should be limited for big time players anyway

3) How many players transfer more than once? While once isn't uncommon, 2-3 is very rare.

4) Even now, 2nd transfers can get waivers. Most waivers are approved. So, not sure what pragmatic difference it makes?

5) Human nature is toward stability. Ask the average employee - they hate change. Most players will want to find a steady team, family, and set of coaches.


For reasons #2-5 I think this makes it a mostly moot point.

#6 it puts rich NIL schools in good position for those rare skilled 2x transfers who don’t find “home” at the first two, for whatever reason…like Bru.

 

[SSVol]

Transfer yes. But you had to sit.

This isn't about the ability to transfer and is mistitled. It's about sitting or not.

Graduates didn't sit.

 

[tennesseeduke]

Thought they had to sit for second transfer but I could be wrong. Guess this clears the path for our WR from USC/TX

#6 it puts rich NIL schools in good position for those rare skilled 2x transfers who don’t find “home” at the first two, for whatever reason…like Bru.[/QUOTE
From my understanding, Bru McCoy signed with Texas and then Hermann got fired so he immediately transferred to USC. Been there since 2019. He was the number 9 overall rated player in class of 2019!

 

[MarcoVol]

Signed with USC

Transferred to TX

Transferred back to USC

 

[TheRain]

You have to make your program worth staying at.

That sounds like a hallmark card.

 

[Ten_Titans]

As a graduate, they could already transfer. Many graduate in three years. Transferring more than the currently approved one time before graduation suggest you have some kind of issue...commitment, getting along, problem with the staff, not good enough to start, etc.

I'm sure it will have some impact, but not nearly as much as you suggest.

I agree. I do think the QB position is probably impacted most. For instance, Joe Milton is probably not here right now under this rule set.

 

[VolInDayton]

We just need Heupel to be the right guy. Having stability now is more important than ever. When things start going bad it will be magnified with NIL and transfers.

 

[Dudleys87]

The “don’t give me what I want and I’ll show you” era of college football

 

[tennesseeduke]

Signed with USC

Transferred to TX

Transferred back to USC

Thanks and you’ve made my point that multiple transfers is already happening.

 

[TNHopeful505]

Thanks and you’ve made my point that multiple transfers is already happening.

But it isn't happening to every program, like it will be. And it will become MUCH more common than what you've described so far. But I think, just like NIL, it'll work itself out and settle in once the new wears off.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

But it isn't happening to every program, like it will be. And it will become MUCH more common than what you've described so far. But I think, just like NIL, it'll work itself out and settle in once the new wears off.

I don't see this as a big deal. Most kids now realize the grass isn't always greener and if they leave their current school there isn't always another school ready to welcome them with open arms. I think the new is already wearing off.

 

[Peytons_Forehead]

I can now be a decent recruit and sign a nice little NIL to play at NCST.
Play one year, become freshman all conference and transfer to Wisconsin, who is willing to pay me more in NIL.
Turn a sophomore season into an all conference season and transfer to Auburn for a bigger NIL.
At Auburn I have an all American jr year and then transfer to Ohio state, who outbid bama and Georgia for a massive NIL deal, to play my senior season.

I think this depends on how the NIL deals are structured. Say you have a collective for NCST that signs your exclusive NIL rights in that first deal. Then, not only is it a breach of contract to do any NIL deals outside that collective, but they can also stipulate what NIL deals you DO have to attend. So if they wanted to be petty and schedule an autograph appearance at 10 PM on Friday night on NCST’s campus, they could (all dependent on contract wording). So I think the exclusivity clauses in these deals just became more valuable, because they act as a guard against transfers. We may see some prospects take smaller NIL deals without those clauses as a means of “betting on themselves” to transfer up later as you suggested.

TLDR: not sure that recruiting is harder, but definitely more complicated.