Regardless what you think of Kiffin, he’s absolutely right…

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#1fulmerite said:
He’s not wrong. Problem is, he has no credibility. Until he actually accomplishes something, people will not put much stock into what he says. Even if he is correct.
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Yep, seems UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT penalties have moved into the coaching ranks. His reputation will proceed him for a while yet. He will PROBABLY push some envelopes in the NIL world and get spanked again in the public eye.
 
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The Original Fade said:
A coach that had a ranked team that lost at home to a terrible Kentucky team just needs to keep his pie hole shut for about 9 months
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I understand the Vol hate toward Kiffin, but your assessment is off base. This is the SEC. On any given Saturday, one team can beat another. Doesn't matter if they are a cellar dweller or Number one in the nation. We've seen it happen plenty of times. Mighty Bama lost to Vanderbilt, of all teams, Vanderbilt. Mighty Texas darn nigh lost as well. Kentucky has beaten Florida in years they should not have been able to do so. And then there's Arkansas making our Vols shine their boots with our tongue. This is the SEC, you can go undefeated at times, you can also get your azz kicked at times, no matter who you are, or think you are.
 
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Everyone has an argument for why they deserve to be in. If you play a low quality schedule you use the “we did everything we were asked to and should be in.” If you have three losses, you argue “well our schedule was so much tougher.” The reality is that once you lose, you lose control over your destiny. When UT lost to Arkansas, a lot of bad potential outcomes opened up. Same for Bama and Ole Miss. When they lost, they gave up their right to complain. We should be fortunate we’re in and I couldn’t care less where or who we play. We have control of our destiny and only 12 teams can still say that after a long season.
 
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Jpcisco said:
He is not wrong, teams like SMU who's big win is BYU is getting exposed by Clemson who just got beat by South Carolina and blown out by Georgia. Penn State has 0 top 25 wins and is getting exposed by Oregon. Decent teams beating a bunch of bad teams then get blown out when they get a solid team. Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, SMU, Boise, etc. are getting into the playoffs because of weak schedules, not because they are great teams. Those teams would have 2-3 conference losses or more in the SEC.
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So going to overtime is "getting exposed"? Or "blown out"?
How exactly is smu "exposed"?

Clueless
 
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igotworms said:
So going to overtime is "getting exposed"? Or "blown out"?
How exactly is smu "exposed"?

Clueless
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Actually you are clueless. If you look at the time of my post it was when the scores were 21-7 Clemson over SMU and 28-10 Oregon over PSU. At that point they were getting blown out and exposed. Screen name checks out.
 
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My observation is that this is an invitational tournament. It is not a playoff. A playoff implies that you earned the right to be there through the set of objective criteria. This is a free-for-all selection process using diverse and varying elements to pick the teams. There is no consistency. If you want a true playoff, look at the basketball example where the winners of the conference get automatic bids, and there are enough teams in the tournament to make certain that the top 32 teams earned the right to be there.
 
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Kiffin also spoke of risking injury in conference championship games.Id like to know how Georgia feels about this topic.
 
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brockytop said:
about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.
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Boo freakin hoo....don't lose at home to a bad Kentucky team and lay an egg on the road at Florida. Pretty simple to me, clean up your own mess before you b**** about others.
 
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Jpcisco said:
He is not wrong, teams like SMU who's big win is BYU is getting exposed by Clemson who just got beat by South Carolina and blown out by Georgia. Penn State has 0 top 25 wins and is getting exposed by Oregon. Decent teams beating a bunch of bad teams then get blown out when they get a solid team. Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, SMU, Boise, etc. are getting into the playoffs because of weak schedules, not because they are great teams. Those teams would have 2-3 conference losses or more in the SEC.
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While I agree ND actually has the athletes to play in the playoffs and compete. Boise , Asu and Indiana even Penn St are going to get waxed
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I understand the Vol hate toward Kiffin, but your assessment is off base. This is the SEC. On any given Saturday, one team can beat another. Doesn't matter if they are a cellar dweller or Number one in the nation. We've seen it happen plenty of times. Mighty Bama lost to Vanderbilt, of all teams, Vanderbilt. Mighty Texas darn nigh lost as well. Kentucky has beaten Florida in years they should not have been able to do so. And then there's Arkansas making our Vols shine their boots with our tongue. This is the SEC, you can go undefeated at times, you can also get your azz kicked at times, no matter who you are, or think you are.
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Pretty much like every other conference....Ohio St. lost at home to a very meh Michigan team.

I know this place is biased and yeah I still think the SEC is the best conference, but this year it was more there isn't a far and away great team in the SEC more than it's loaded.
 
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Kiffin is the joke. He is losing his quarterback buddy and most of his mercenaries. This is the closest he will get to sniffing a playoff game. Always with one foot out the door. Maybe he can do like Gus and drop down to an OC job for some desperate team.
 
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I actually curious to see how teams like Boise St, Arizona St, SMU and Indianna perform in the playoffs. I don't think it is as clear cut that there is a sizeable gap between those teams and the SEC.

Sure, maybe the LOS talent is different, but those coaches of those smaller programs have learned how to schene around and mitigate the difference.
 
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vavolfan6 said:
I actually curious to see how teams like Boise St, Arizona St, SMU and Indianna perform in the playoffs. I don't think it is as clear cut that there is a sizeable gap between those teams and the SEC.

Sure, maybe the LOS talent is different, but those coaches of those smaller programs have learned how to schene around and mitigate the difference.
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Thats the difference they do not have the players. Remember Geogia / TCU ? That's what this is going to look like
 
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The Original Fade said:
A coach that had a ranked team that lost at home to a terrible Kentucky team just needs to keep his pie hole shut for about 9 months
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brockytop said:
about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.
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Ole Miss went all in on a championship this year with spending and the portal. He came up pathetically short (including Kentucky at home). No team with 3 loses belongs in the playoffs. Alabama almost whined their way in with 3 losses but SMU gave the Committee too much to ignore yesterday. Let the playoffs begin, Go Vols.
 
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Kiffin is a child in a man's body. When he fails every year he just looks for someone else to blame. The great offensive mind cannot design a run game.
 
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Volnuck said:
Ole Miss went all in on a championship this year with spending and the portal. He came up pathetically short (including Kentucky at home). No team with 3 loses belongs in the playoffs. Alabama almost whined their way in with 3 losses but SMU gave the Committee too much to ignore yesterday. Let the playoffs begin, Go Vols.
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Imagine whining about not making the playoffs when you went 9-3 and one of the losses was a home loss to Kentucky...who went 4-8 and their other 3 wins were Southern Miss, Ohio, and Murray St. Hey maybe Kiffin should have touted more how they lost to the team that beat the MAC Champion!
 
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brockytop said:
about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.
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hope kiffy enjoys that pop tart bowl
 
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brockytop said:
about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.
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I mean GA barely beat GT (and would have lost if not for some home cooking from the refs). LSU lost to USC at the start of the year. Arky lost to OK St. Vandy lost to Georgia Southern. So, let's pump the brakes a bit here.

Yes, the SEC is the best conference and and is deeper in terms of quality teams. But the transfer portal has closed the gap considerably. UGA and Bama can no longer hoard 4-5 star players for 2-3 years and have those elite players replace other elite players when they get injured or leave for the draft. And upper echelon teams from other conferences (like SMU), while they lack the depth of a team like Bama, can line up well 1st string vs 1st string.
 
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The SEC schools are going to start playing a watered down non-conference schedule. Instead of 2-3 cupcakes, they'll start playing 4. Bama's AD already hinted at this. They'll likely do it first followed by the rest of the conference
 
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