Regardless what you think of Kiffin, he’s absolutely right…

[volbound1700]

Boise State is the issue, they don't deserve a bye and frankly most these G5 teams should be down in FCS with the OVC. Put Notre Dame there and move Tennessee up to 8 seed. Have Boise State somewhere in 12 or 12 range. Their SOS is a joke. Using CFB playoff logic, Tennessee should just leave the SEC and go play in the same conference as MTSU and get a guarantee bye once they go unbeaten.

 

[Carp]

Our middle of the pack (LSU / Missouri, Vandy) teams would run a lot of these conferences. I think 6 SEC teams beat all four of the Big 10 teams.

I mean LSU couldn't even beat USC, who finished 11th in the Big 10. So I don't see how that statement holds any water.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Boise State is the issue, they don't deserve a bye and frankly most these G5 teams should be down in FCS with the OVC. Put Notre Dame there and move Tennessee up to 8 seed. Have Boise State somewhere in 12 or 12 range. Their SOS is a joke. Using CFB playoff logic, Tennessee should just leave the SEC and go play in the same conference as MTSU and get a guarantee bye once they go unbeaten.

Arizona St doesn't deserve a bye either

 

[volbound1700]

Arizona St doesn't deserve a bye either

At least they won a somewhat strong league (Big12). I have no problem with them because they actually play REAL teams like BYU, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, etc. That league has good teams.

Who did Boise State play other than losing to Oregon? UNLV? A 5-7 Oregon State team? Also a little burned about their RB getting so much Heisman hype. It is the same sh1t all the time with CFB media. These West Coast teams (usually Southern Cal) play garbage schedules and their QBs/RBs rack up stats and look great. Win Heisman. Go to bowl/postseason and get stuffed and exposed for not being that good and then go to NFL and flame out.

Dylan Sampson is a lot better running back than Ashton Jeanty. Let's see Ashton Jeanty come put up those stats against Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, etc.

 

[GVF]

Oregon is still Pac12 Oregon. No defense. The crossover play to the SEC for them will give them trouble.

DG is undersized at QB. You get the D in the backfield and put pressure on him, he may very well struggle. And he won't be able to see over them. I never could tell that anyone truly tried to spend any quality time in the Oregon backfield. Back bite on that is his quick release and the fact they will have an open recevier under the linebackers on the right side for a checkdown. He's there almost every play.

 

[GVF]

I mean LSU couldn't even beat USC, who finished 11th in the Big 10. So I don't see how that statement holds any water.

I did hear Herbie say during a GA game, maybe it was during Gameday, that alot of the top confrence teams form other conferences would be .500 teams in the SEC.

 

[volbound1700]

Facts or facts:

SEC was a stronger league by all metrics than the B1G but the B1G has 2 teams hosting, 1 bye, and 4 bids while the SEC has 1 team hosting, 1 bye, and 3 bids.

B1G and CFB Playoff committee made Sankey their little b1tch.

 

[Carp]

I did hear Herbie say during a GA game, maybe it was during Gameday, that alot of the top confrence teams form other conferences would be .500 teams in the SEC.

In the Big 12, AAC, MAC, MWC? That's probably probably true. No way teams like Army, Colorado, BYU, or Tulane are better than 8-4 in the SEC. Maybe if they had Ole Miss schedule they could luck into 9-3. But those teams are 6-6, 7-5 type of teams in the SEC.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

At least they won a somewhat strong league (Big12). I have no problem with them because they actually play REAL teams like BYU, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, etc. That league has good teams.

Who did Boise State play other than losing to Oregon? UNLV? A 5-7 Oregon State team? Also a little burned about their RB getting so much Heisman hype. It is the same sh1t all the time with CFB media. These West Coast teams (usually Southern Cal) play garbage schedules and their QBs/RBs rack up stats and look great. Win Heisman. Go to bowl/postseason and get stuffed and exposed for not being that good and then go to NFL and flame out.

Dylan Sampson is a lot better running back than Ashton Jeanty. Let's see Ashton Jeanty come put up those stats against Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, etc.

No, actually those teams aren't that good. It's not a "somewhat strong league" by any real measure. The Big 12 isn't much different than Mountain west

 

[volbound1700]

No, actually those teams aren't that good. It's not a "somewhat strong league" by any real measure. The Big 12 isn't much different than Mountain west

Phenomenally different. I think 3-4 Big12 teams would have won the MWC. MWC is barely above the Sunbelt and Frankly should be an FCS league.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Phenomenally different. I think 3-4 Big12 teams would have won the MWC. MWC is barely above the Sunbelt and Frankly should be an FCS league.

That might be true about 3 or 4 Big 12 teams winning it. Remarkably stupid to say it should be FCS

 

[volbound1700]

That might be true about 3 or 4 Big 12 teams winning it. Remarkably stupid to say it should be FCS

It isn't when you take my point that I think any league outside the Big4 should move down to FCS. There is a HUGE GAP between Tennessee and MTSU or Memphis for example when it comes to fan support, financial resources, talent, etc.

That gap is great than MTSU is to UT Martin.

If we reduce our division, we stop seeing such unbalanced schedules and you get more cross-playing to determine how good a team really is.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

It isn't when you take my point that I think any league outside the Big4 should move down to FCS. There is a HUGE GAP between Tennessee and MTSU or Memphis for example when it comes to fan support, financial resources, talent, etc.

That gap is great than MTSU is to UT Martin.

Yes, I know, but there are so many factors that make FCS different. I am thinking a totally new division should be created for the midmajors

 

[GVF]

In the Big 12, AAC, MAC, MWC? That's probably probably true. No way teams like Army, Colorado, BYU, or Tulane are better than 8-4 in the SEC. Maybe if they had Ole Miss schedule they could luck into 9-3. But those teams are 6-6, 7-5 type of teams in the SEC.

No SEC schedule is a cakewalk, but there were clearly some schedules this year that were far more difficult than others. Hopefully, Sanky gets this worked out where SEC schedules are as comparable as possible. For all a UT fan my think of UGA, they had a rough set up this year. Possibly the toughest conference play this year.

 

[LowKey]

Thinking of Kiffin will rot your brain.

 

[Volnanza]

He is not wrong, teams like SMU who's big win is BYU is getting exposed by Clemson who just got beat by South Carolina and blown out by Georgia. Penn State has 0 top 25 wins and is getting exposed by Oregon. Decent teams beating a bunch of bad teams then get blown out when they get a solid team. Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, SMU, Boise, etc. are getting into the playoffs because of weak schedules, not because they are great teams. Those teams would have 2-3 conference losses or more in the SEC.

I agree 100%. So the real question is...do we want to make the playoffs by scheduling weaker teams or do we want to take on the world every year and miss the playoffs 4 out of 5 years? With parity, that is your choice. Oh, and SOS is just something the committee uses to justify their decisions. Wins and losses are the only determining factor.

 

[bonnieandclyde]

At least they won a somewhat strong league (Big12). I have no problem with them because they actually play REAL teams like BYU, Kansas State, Iowa State, Colorado, etc. That league has good teams.

Who did Boise State play other than losing to Oregon? UNLV? A 5-7 Oregon State team? Also a little burned about their RB getting so much Heisman hype. It is the same sh1t all the time with CFB media. These West Coast teams (usually Southern Cal) play garbage schedules and their QBs/RBs rack up stats and look great. Win Heisman. Go to bowl/postseason and get stuffed and exposed for not being that good and then go to NFL and flame out.

Dylan Sampson is a lot better running back than Ashton Jeanty. Let's see Ashton Jeanty come put up those stats against Georgia, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, etc.

He did run for 192 against Oregon....

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

A coach that had a ranked team that lost at home to a terrible Kentucky team just needs to keep his pie hole shut for about 9 months

Notre Dame lost to a 6-6 MAC team

 

[ToineMac]

Winning and losing games has to matter. Otherwise put the 12 teams with the highest blue chip ratio and recruiting classes in every year regardless of game results. It's real simple don't lose 3 games. Don't lose games to teams that finish 4-8. And if you do you should probably win all the rest of your games.

 

[Majors]

about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.

Don’t lose to KY and FL in down years and he’s whistling something different. He would be on X ribbing the SEC team left out while they are in.

 

[Dansky]

Notre Dame lost to a 6-6 MAC team

Well we lost to a sorry Arkansas team. But not at home.

 

[sami]

about these other leagues compared to the SEC. It’s an joke.

Yes, I say this knowing there isn’t a super team in this league either, but the depth is far superior and going on the road is so much more difficult.

He's 100% right. Because it's Kiffin he's going to get trolled and accused of sour grapes, but the fact is that Sankey f***ked the league when selling it out to go in business with the vastly inferior (from top to bottom) Big 10 and ESPN.

Now we see three SEC teams on the outside that I would take straight up against Penn State, Indiana, Clemson, Arizona State, and Boise St. It will continue to be this way as long as the format stays this way and the corrupt committee is made up of mostly Big 10 and northern people because the SEC is just getting better and deeper every year.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Well we lost to a sorry Arkansas team. But not at home.

Not in the same universe bad

 

[Mccage]

Be nice if more SEC teams would schedule the ND’s, Penn State, Ohio State, and other top conference teams. It would settle a lot.

 

[sami]

I actually curious to see how teams like Boise St, Arizona St, SMU and Indianna perform in the playoffs. I don't think it is as clear cut that there is a sizeable gap between those teams and the SEC.

Sure, maybe the LOS talent is different, but those coaches of those smaller programs have learned how to schene around and mitigate the difference.

I respect what Boise St. and ASU did and both earned bids even if getting byes and 3 & 4 seeds is absurd and f***ked the bracket completely. But their success was so dependent on those two backs that I want to see how they respond when (if) a bigger and deeper team shuts them down. Boise gets a huge break playing either Penn State or SMU.