Religious debate (split from main board)

#752
#752
OrangeEmpire said:
I dunno, the whole fish crawling on to land seems like the three eyed fish from the Simpsons.
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Snakeheads can breathe air and survive for up to four days out of water, and can survive for longer periods of time when burrowed in the mud. They are capable of traveling over land to new bodies of water by wriggling their bodies over the ground.
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The Northern Snakehead: An Invasive Fish Species


And then there are several species of lungfish as well.
 
#754
#754
Snakes on a Wii said:
The fact that we recreated them in a particle accelerator is just astounding, and it lends even more support to the Big Bang theory.
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How so? Seems to me that what you're saying is that Someone had to be involved in making this happen? I'm waiting for the evidence where scientists are able to prove it happened simply through observation... i.e. no "recreating" or intervention should be necessary.
 
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#755
IBlvNTmWrk said:
How so? Seems to me that what you're saying is that Someone had to be involved in making this happen? I'm waiting for the evidence where scientists are able to prove it happened simply through observation... i.e. no "recreating" or intervention should be necessary.
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I'm waiting to see God.
 
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#756
IPorange said:
The Northern Snakehead: An Invasive Fish Species


And then there are several species of lungfish as well.
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#758
#758
T-TownVol said:
Then, do as I have done, stop debating all this evolution crap that does not mean one hill of beans about salvation. :)
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Preaching to the choir but I do struggle with the Creation/evolution debate.

I mean, it is hard to discredit evolution, I mean, we can see it.

The hard part I have is the beginning factor. To me, evolution skirts the issue with some down right silliness.

Of course I do buy into the Matrix/Battlestar Galactica this has already happened theory.
 
#763
#763
rjd970 said:
Snakes, I think you are spot on.

But be prepared to get a lot of "you can't prove God doesn't exist...there are some things science will never figure out....belief in a higher power isn't irrational" type arguments.
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An all-loving, all-powerful deity is easy to logically disprove. It was done a few thousand years ago.

The objection to that becomes that "God doesn't follow logic".
 
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#764
IBlvNTmWrk said:
But God, Christianity, faith, etc. isn't science... haven't you been keeping up?
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It's just strange how ridiculously skeptical one is towards science, but then has a belief system entirely dependent on faith. At least the alternative is consistent.
 
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#766
OrangeEmpire said:
Preaching to the choir but I do struggle with the Creation/evolution debate.

I mean, it is hard to discredit evolution, I mean, we can see it.

The hard part I have is the beginning factor. To me, evolution skirts the issue with some down right silliness.

Of course I do buy into the Matrix/Battlestar Galactica this has already happened theory.
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There is a lot of interesting evidence out there for such a theory. OE, you ever read any of the many books discussing a variety of ancient anomalies, such as the Antikythera mechanism? Pretty fascinating stuff.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
There is a lot of interesting evidence out there for such a theory. OE, you ever read any of the many books discussing a variety of ancient anomalies, such as the Antikythera mechanism? Pretty fascinating stuff.
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The antikythera mechanism is fasinating.

There is no shortage of questions about how ancient societies performed such amazing feats of construction without modern technology.
 
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gsvol said:
The antikythera mechanism is fasinating.

There is no shortage of questions about how ancient societies performed such amazing feats of construction without modern technology.
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Many of the ancient construction sites are incredible too, such as Baalbek, where a man-made (as far as we know) structure includes at its base gigantic granite blocks about 40 feet long and individually weighing in at 800+ tons each (that's right, 800 TONS). How in the hell did the ancient people move those things? We could barely move them today.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
Many of the ancient construction sites are incredible too, such as Baalbek, where a man-made (as far as we know) structure includes at its base gigantic granite blocks about 40 feet long and individually weighing in at 800+ tons each (that's right, 800 TONS). How in the hell did the ancient people move those things? We could barely move them today.
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An unsolved mystery??
 
#770
#770
jamesd1628 said:
Many of the ancient construction sites are incredible too, such as Baalbek, where a man-made (as far as we know) structure includes at its base gigantic granite blocks about 40 feet long and individually weighing in at 800+ tons each (that's right, 800 TONS). How in the hell did the ancient people move those things? We could barely move them today.
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I'm no archaeologist, but perhaps they carved them out of some granite deposit the site is sitting on?
 
#772
#772
No no, it must have been anti-gravity.

Reminds me of Kurt Vonnegut's "Slapstick," in which at one point it turns out that gravity varies from day to day, and modern human history was just a dry spell.
 
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#773
Snakes on a Wii said:
I think your teacher might have been referencing a particle accelerator. In the first few seconds of the Big Bang the universe (which was small, the Big Bang is both an explosion of space as well as time and matter) was so unbelievably hot that particles were not even formed - there were no protons, neutrons, or atoms. Instead what the model predicts is a "quark-gluon plasma", a soup of quarks, the particles that make up protons, and gluons, the particles that hold quarks together. The fact that we recreated them in a particle accelerator is just astounding, and it lends even more support to the Big Bang theory.
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How did the universe come into being?
 
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#775
IPorange said:
You are thinking of time linearly. Current theories suggest it isn't. There is no "beginning" or end, but rather a cyclical booming and busting. We're in a booming phase.
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Current theories? That replace previous theories, or theories where there wasn't one before.
 
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