Republicans Who Have Ruined Their Political Careers Over Trump

[Sea Ray]

I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys

 

[LouderVol]

1. There shouldnt be parties.
2. The parties should not be loyal to individuals. "Never whoever" shouldnt matter
3. They are still individuals even if part of a party, they keep their free will and self determination.

 

[utvolpj]

One day repubs will regret selling out their stated ideals to become the party of trump. They just hit the gas on the race to the bottom

I'd read anything from Will before trying to decipher something tweeted from potus

 

[volfanjustin]

One day repubs will regret selling out their stated ideals to become the party of trump. They just hit the gas on the race to the bottom

I'd read anything from Will before trying to decipher something tweeted from potus

Hopefully he has taught future Rs a lesson, stop be wimps
I would much rather selling out to Trump than your party selling out to socialists and communists

 

[hog88]

One day repubs will regret selling out their stated ideals to become the party of trump. They just hit the gas on the race to the bottom

I'd read anything from Will before trying to decipher something tweeted from potus

Republicans sold out their "stated ideals" long before Trump. Don't act like this is a new phenomena.

 

[utvolpj]

Hopefully he has taught future Rs a lesson, stop be wimps
I would much rather selling out to Trump than your party selling out to socialists and communists

Or he's taught future candidates that no one cares what you are about as long as you make them feel like a winner. Just have big circuses where you wave flags and talk nonsense (I'm guessing there is food too. Hopefully bread)

 

[volfanjustin]

I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys

The party will be better off long term without these cowards

 

[utvolpj]

Republicans sold out their "stated ideals" long before Trump. Don't act like this is a new phenomena.

Well at least they used to pretend. The TP was hopeful for a few months

 

[n_huffhines]

I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys

Mitt Romney has 5 more years and how national republicans feel about him is entirely different than how Utah feels about him. Romney could also flip parties.

Kasich had reached his ceiling.

George Will is not done. Neither is Kristol, unfortunately.

Jeb was already cooked.

 

[volfanjustin]

Or he's taught future candidates that no one cares what you are about as long as you make them feel like a winner. Just have big circuses where you wave flags and talk nonsense (I'm guessing there is food too. Hopefully bread)

The results don't lie. You bitter most of your choices can't fill a local YMCA?

 

[n_huffhines]

Republicans sold out their "stated ideals" long before Trump. Don't act like this is a new phenomena.

Republicans may have sold out to big government long ago, but now they don't even pretend to care about responsible government. Can you imagine if W had said deficits don't matter? That's a huge change and recent phenomenon. Also, up until Trump, they still made a good effort at demanding family values and basic decency from their politicians.

"Who the hell cares about the budget? We're going to have a country." - the dipshit that some R's have ruined their careers for opposing

 

[utvolpj]

The results don't lie.

You're absolutely correct but likely clueless as to why

 

[hog88]

Well at least they used to pretend. The TP was hopeful for a few months

MSM and R establishment crushed the TP. Like Trump or hate Trump you have to give him credit for being the catalyst that got people like Ryan, King, Corker, Flake and others to leave office. That is a significant accomplishment alone.

 

[hog88]

Republicans may have sold out to big government long ago, but now they don't even pretend to care about responsible government. Can you imagine if W had said deficits don't matter? That's a huge change and recent phenomenon. Also, up until Trump, they still made a good effort at demanding family values and basic decency from their politicians.

"Who the hell cares about the budget? We're going to have a country." - some dipshit that people worship

Selling out is selling out. You're just nitpicking.

Do as I do and do not vote for any incumbent. When incumbents start going down (especially in the primaries) eyes and ears begin to open.

 

[n_huffhines]

Selling out is selling out. You're just nitpicking.

You're just deflecting. Things have changed with Trump. That's the point. You're trying to play BS semantic games. The fact of the matter is Trump has transformed attitudes and positions among R's in undesirable ways. Own it, or hide from it. It makes no difference to me.

 

[LouderVol]

You're just deflecting. Things have changed with Trump. That's the point. You're trying to play BS semantic games. The fact of the matter is Trump has transformed attitudes and positions among R's in undesirable ways. Own it, or hide from it. It makes no difference to me.

I dont think hog is saying things didnt change with trumo. I think his point is that things have continued to change with Trump. It's hard to blame one data point when the overall trend is consistent with the one data point.

 

[lawgator1]

I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

I actually think its more that Trump has transformed the Republican party into his own image than that he has just become popular within it. The traditional values of the GOP -- at least as articulated by the GOP in the past -- have been abandoned by Trump in favor of a greedy, caustic, anti-spiritual persona worshipping quagmire.

The irony is the Evangelical wing going all in on him. When you think about it, Trump's administration in terms of values and the way it treats people is pretty much as unChristian as can be. Celebrating adultery, name calling, mean spiritedness, no shame, no dignity, showing no compassion for others in need. Remarkable.

 

[hog88]

You're just deflecting. Things have changed with Trump. That's the point. You're trying to play BS semantic games. The fact of the matter is Trump has transformed attitudes and positions among R's in undesirable ways. Own it, or hide from it. It makes no difference to me.

I agree that things have changed with Trump, many of the Rs are no longer "pretending" and that is a good thing.

 

[evillawyer]

I can't decide who is worse: Graham or Cruz. They both blasted Trump in no uncertain terms during the 2016 campaign, and now they're like two piglets fighting over one of Donny's man teets.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys

I like what Trump did to Hillary’s career best.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I can't decide who is worse: Graham or Cruz. They both blasted Trump in no uncertain terms during the 2016 campaign, and now they're like two piglets fighting over one of Donny's man teets.

Isn't that what politicians do regardless of party?

 

[hog88]

I actually think its more that Trump has transformed the Republican party into his own image than that he has just become popular within it. The traditional values of the GOP -- at least as articulated by the GOP in the past -- have been abandoned by Trump in favor of a greedy, caustic, anti-spiritual persona worshipping quagmire.

The irony is the Evangelical wing going all in on him. When you think about it, Trump's administration in terms of values and the way it treats people is pretty much as unChristian as can be. Celebrating adultery, name calling, mean spiritedness, no shame, no dignity, showing no compassion for others in need. Remarkable.

People like myself became disaffected with the Republican party and primarily with it's leadership so I can see why so many people jumped on the train with him being the anti establishment (for lack of a better term) candidate. He was the opposite of what the party has been putting out for the past 20-30 years.

 

[RockyTop85]

One day repubs will regret selling out their stated ideals to become the party of trump. They just hit the gas on the race to the bottom

I'd read anything from Will before trying to decipher something tweeted from potus

TBH, I don’t think they will. This would require some degree of foresight or hindsight. Trumpism thinks that’s elitist and is all about today and tomorrow and nothing else.

OP links to an article that mocks “never trump” media types and politicians, but which seemingly fails to consider the political ramifications of an entire segment of current/former Republicans who don’t hold with Trumpism beyond “haha we won, you lost.”

Trumpists don’t see any connection between the current party’s “platform” and district voting trends that showed Republicans hemorrhaging voters in VA and MI suburbs. Those trends resulted in flipping those State governments from purple/red to blue. Maybe I’m biased, but I don’t think it’s because the democrats ran on some stellar platform. Either way, the pro-trump media wont talk about it because the cult of personality (the same cult that’s driving people away) would excoriate them for it and there will always be somebody else out there who will talk about how bigly Trump is winning.

The closest I’ve seen to somebody who isn’t “never trump” but is willing to have those discussions is Jonah Goldberg and I don’t know for sure, but I think he’s one of the pictures on the article’s header.

So my guess is that the closest the average joe Republican will come to regret is a deeper embittered resentment of democrats in the event that they take full control of said average republican’s state or federal government. (See e.g. the VA Gun bill thread).

 

[Sea Ray]

One day repubs will regret selling out their stated ideals to become the party of trump. They just hit the gas on the race to the bottom

I'd read anything from Will before trying to decipher something tweeted from potus

You are in the far minority on George Will. You can't find him with a search warrant these days. If anyone cared about his opinions he'd be a regular on these shows

 

[n_huffhines]

I dont think hog is saying things didnt change with trumo. I think his point is that things have continued to change with Trump. It's hard to blame one data point when the overall trend is consistent with the one data point.

Disgraced Republicans used to resign from office. Now you can pay to commit adultery with a gross porn star or say "grab 'em by the *****" and nobody even bats an eye. This is a complete change from the Republican party I grew up with.

Republicans generally took the high road, and now Trump goes for the lowest road possible, and R's slurp that **** up.

It's so easy to blame one data point. Even if you want to say things were already going in this direction, fine, but the change in trajectory is stark.