Republicans Who Have Ruined Their Political Careers Over Trump

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Disgraced Republicans used to resign from office. Now you can pay to commit adultery with a gross porn star or say "grab 'em by the *****" and nobody even bats an eye. This is a complete change from the Republican party I grew up with.

Republicans generally took the high road, and now Trump goes for the lowest road possible, and R's slurp that **** up.

It's so easy to blame one data point. Even if you want to say things were already going in this direction, the change in trajectory is stark.

I think you just illustrated my point.
 
#27
#27
Republicans sold out their "stated ideals" long before Trump. Don't act like this is a new phenomena.

There's no selling out to Trump. He's arguably done more to advance Conservative ideas than any President including Ronald Reagan. For example, Reagan nominated two swing votes to the SCOTUS, Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy. Trump nominated two reliable conservatives. Reagan gave amnesty to many illegals.

I think Trump's an idiot as a person but I really like his policies
 
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Mitt Romney has 5 more years and how national republicans feel about him is entirely different than how Utah feels about him. Romney could also flip parties.

Kasich had reached his ceiling.

George Will is not done. Neither is Kristol, unfortunately.

Jeb was already cooked.

You're living in la la land. Kasich will never hold an office higher than governor. Mitt will not flip parties. The Dems don't want him either. You need a better crystal ball
 
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I can't decide who is worse: Graham or Cruz. They both blasted Trump in no uncertain terms during the 2016 campaign, and now they're like two piglets fighting over one of Donny's man teets.


I find your continual fixation on Trumps body parts and the images you bring forth to communicate your unhealthy fixation very disturbing. Get help girl!
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Disgraced Republicans used to resign from office. Now you can pay to commit adultery with a gross porn star or say "grab 'em by the pussy" and nobody even bats an eye. This is a complete change from the Republican party I grew up with.

Republicans generally took the high road, and now Trump goes for the lowest road possible, and R's slurp that **** up.

It's so easy to blame one data point. Even if you want to say things were already going in this direction, fine, but the change in trajectory is stark.
That is one thing I love about Trump and I hope that's his most lasting legacy on the party. Dems always took the low road and sad whatever they wanted and wimps like GW took it, I hope those days are forever gone
 
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I actually think its more that Trump has transformed the Republican party into his own image than that he has just become popular within it. The traditional values of the GOP -- at least as articulated by the GOP in the past -- have been abandoned by Trump in favor of a greedy, caustic, anti-spiritual persona worshipping quagmire.

The irony is the Evangelical wing going all in on him. When you think about it, Trump's administration in terms of values and the way it treats people is pretty much as unChristian as can be. Celebrating adultery, name calling, mean spiritedness, no shame, no dignity, showing no compassion for others in need. Remarkable.

I disagree. His judges have been lauded by conservative Republicans. Republicans love tax cuts, deregulation and enforcing existing immigration laws. These are all Trump policies and they're consistent with what Republicans have wanted their President to do for yrs
 
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MSM and R establishment crushed the TP. Like Trump or hate Trump you have to give him credit for being the catalyst that got people like Ryan, King, Corker, Flake and others to leave office. That is a significant accomplishment alone.
Traded for the nonsense coming out of the WH? Meh
 
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That is one thing I love about Trump and I hope that's his most lasting legacy on the party. Dems always took the low road and sad whatever they wanted and wimps like GW took it, I hope those days are forever gone

What good does it do anybody to take the low road? What if we end up with some terrible D because America is sick of Trump's low road?

What bad came of GW "taking it"? He won b2b elections and passed pretty much whatever he wanted to pass and had a high approval rating until his economy crashed.

Trump's highest approval rating is 49. That's the lowest high all-time by 18 points.

United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia
 
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What good does it do anybody to take the low road? What if we end up with some terrible D because America is sick of Trump's low road?

What bad came of GW "taking it"? He won b2b elections and passed pretty much whatever he wanted to pass and had a high approval rating until his economy crashed.

GW had an approval rating in the 20s when he left office and that hurt his party terribly. It led to Obama, Nancy and a filibuster-proof Senate. The reason he had an approval rating so low was because he'd checked out. He didn't care. He was done with politics. He let media attacks towards him go unchallenged and did not defend himself. It's that sort of behavior that led to the rise of Trump. Republicans decided that they did not want that to happen again.
 
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I think you just illustrated my point.
I’ve been a Republican pretty much all of my adult life. And it didn’t take me long to separate personal morals from being an effective elected official.

I don’t care who or how they get their freak on with in the bedroom... or on the kitchen counter! Just leave it in the bedroom or on the kitchen counter! The only exception is keep it separate from the day job. BJ’s in the Oval Office by an intern aren’t ok even though I’m all in favor of (receiving!) BJ’s. Using trash talk about grabbing somebody by a body part 10+ years before you took office and saying the trash talk out of the public eye doesn’t even register with me. Nor does banging a playboy model or a porn star. Just don’t do it in the Oval Office or on AF1. “Don’t crap where you eat”
 
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You're living in la la land. Kasich will never hold an office higher than governor. Mitt will not flip parties. The Dems don't want him either. You need a better crystal ball

I didn't say otherwise.

Again, MITT HAS 5 MORE YEARS
 
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GW had an approval rating in the 20s when he left office and that hurt his party terribly. It led to Obama, Nancy and a filibuster-proof Senate. The reason he had an approval rating so low was because he'd checked out. He didn't care. He was done with politics. He let media attacks towards him go unchallenged and did not defend himself. It's that sort of behavior that led to the rise of Trump. Republicans decided that they did not want that to happen again.

It's "the economy, stupid."

Yeah, he had a 25 approval rating because he didn't defend himself. You guys will unapologetically invent any narrative that serves your purpose.
 
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What good does it do anybody to take the low road? What if we end up with some terrible D because America is sick of Trump's low road?

What bad came of GW "taking it"? He won b2b elections and passed pretty much whatever he wanted to pass and had a high approval rating until his economy crashed.

Trump's highest approval rating is 49. That's the lowest high all-time by 18 points.

United States presidential approval rating - Wikipedia
I don't really care about approval ratings. I was sick of watching Rs like GW, McCain and Romney (when I actually liked them) just get hammered and called everything in the book and they would take it. Most people like a fighter, Trump is a fighter. Those other 3 are wimps. Most Rs are wimps
 
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I would
There's no selling out to Trump. He's arguably done more to advance Conservative ideas than any President including Ronald Reagan. For example, Reagan nominated two swing votes to the SCOTUS, Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy. Trump nominated two reliable conservatives. Reagan gave amnesty to many illegals.

I think Trump's an idiot as a person but I really like his policies
I wouldn't call Kavanaugh or Gorsuch "conservative". Compared to RBG and crew yeah they are more conservative but they are far from being truly constitutionalists.
 
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I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys
Draining the Swamp one Rat at a time. :)
 
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I don't really care about approval ratings. I was sick of watching Rs like GW, McCain and Romney (when I actually liked them) just get hammered and called everything in the book and they would take it. Most people like a fighter, Trump is a fighter. Those other 3 are wimps. Most Rs are wimps

You treat this like it's entertainment. It's not about what you enjoy, it's about making things better for Americans. I asked you what good does it do and your answer is "I like a fighter. Most people like a fighter." JFC
 
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People like myself became disaffected with the Republican party and primarily with it's leadership so I can see why so many people jumped on the train with him being the anti establishment (for lack of a better term) candidate. He was the opposite of what the party has been putting out for the past 20-30 years.


Ok, but what is he doing policy wise that's different so as to be worth selling out on the more traditional tenets of the GOP?
 
#48
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I disagree. His judges have been lauded by conservative Republicans. Republicans love tax cuts, deregulation and enforcing existing immigration laws. These are all Trump policies and they're consistent with what Republicans have wanted their President to do for yrs


What about the rest, though?
 
#49
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You treat this like it's entertainment. It's not about what you enjoy, it's about making things better for Americans. I asked you what good does it do and your answer is "I like a fighter. Most people like a fighter." JFC
No response any of us on the right ever give is enough, you live to bitch and argue with us
 
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You treat this like it's entertainment. It's not about what you enjoy, it's about making things better for Americans. I asked you what good does it do and your answer is "I like a fighter. Most people like a fighter." JFC
The biggest part of it is entertainment. I haven't noticed huge changes in my life, no matter who is in office. Trump keeps us entertained far better than the previous 12 in my lifetime. There is something new in the paper every day.
 
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