Republicans Who Have Ruined Their Political Careers Over Trump

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joevol33 said:
The 2 party system sucks. People are loyal to the party regardless of what the candidates stand for, or have done. These politicians say enough to keep their followers addicted to the party, and really don't care about the people. Jmo
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I prefer to vote for the lesser of the two evils. So far the democrats have gone crazy and can never win my vote with their socialist attitudes.
 
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VolStrom said:
I prefer to vote for the lesser of the two evils. So far the democrats have gone crazy and can never win my vote with their socialist attitudes.
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I completely get that and understand, I just hate that we are at that point. Instead of a good candidate that can unite our country, we have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. Jmo again, but that's how I feel.
 
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luthervol said:
Trump is most definitely a new phenomena.
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Yeah, he's not a lifelong politician. That's a nice change. Before you go getting all moralistic ... he's no worse than the political lifers ... just different in his own way.
 
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joevol33 said:
I completely get that and understand, I just hate that we are at that point. Instead of a good candidate that can unite our country, we have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. Jmo again, but that's how I feel.
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there is not a person alive that could unite our country..... the extreme people are way too vocal.
 
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AM64 said:
I'm probably older than you, and I imagine my age group is less tolerant. However, when even mainstream TV tends to shy away from a third rail, I tend to think it's probably something not ready for prime time. I tend to think that image is a problem and can diminish the effectiveness of the presidency ... Trump certainly has stirred up a hornet's nest, and it's hard to say that perception hasn't diminished his ability to get things done. I also think that if it weren't so unpopular to speak out about traditional values, there would be far more said, but to touch on any of the sacred diversities is like attracting the race card all over again.
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I also think perception is important however not on every single thing. For example the “red line” comment of the prior admin. If you say you’re going to do something then follow thru when the trigger occurs. For the current admin I view an equivalent as the budget cutting/spending campaign speeches. None of that has materialized so while I do perceive Trump as being effective on the whole I will state he hasn’t been effective on that promise yet.

For my own views I don’t perceive sexual orientation or marital status as having any reflection whatsoever on the office. And yeah I know that’s just my view while others do impose their own views on those points. I personally don’t hold Buttigieg’s sexual orientation to any standard for the office. I also realize that many do and yes I do believe it will affect his electability in the time we live in still. Doesn’t mean it’s fair or right it just means that’s the reality.
 
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joevol33 said:
I completely get that and understand, I just hate that we are at that point. Instead of a good candidate that can unite our country, we have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils. Jmo again, but that's how I feel.
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I'm not sure the US populace is ever going to be more than binary when you come right down to it. We couldn't even just be satisfied with bowl games ... we had to have a national championship to prove who was best. It always comes down to two teams fighting it out. Racing is one example of non-binary challenge, and I have a feeling more often than not it is actually down to two - the car or the wall.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I also think perception is important however not on every single thing. For example the “red line” comment of the prior admin. If you say you’re going to do something then follow thru when the trigger occurs. For the current admin I view an equivalent as the budget cutting/spending campaign speeches. None of that has materialized so while I do perceive Trump as being effective on the whole I will state he hasn’t been effective on that promise yet.

For my own views I don’t perceive sexual orientation or marital status as having any reflection whatsoever on the office. And yeah I know that’s just my view while others do impose their own views on those points. I personally don’t hold Buttigieg’s sexual orientation to any standard for the office. I also realize that many do and yes I do believe it will affect his electability in the time we live in still. Doesn’t mean it’s fair or right it just means that’s the reality.
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Buttigieg is going down due to Bloomberg presenting an alternative.
 
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AM64 said:
Yeah, he's not a lifelong politician. That's a nice change. Before you go getting all moralistic ... he's no worse than the political lifers ... just different in his own way.
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I really don’t care to ever see a damn career politician in the Oval Office ever again. I also realize I will be disappointed at some point.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Buttigieg is going down due to Bloomberg presenting an alternative.
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Truth be told I would submit Bloomberg has the most complete resume to be successful in the role of chief executive. The mayor of NYC requires chief executive skills. The mayor of Mayberry Indiana not so much. And not a very effective Mayberry mayor many argue also. That frankly is a huge red flag to me and he can’t talk his way around that.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I really don’t care to ever see a damn career politician in the Oval Office ever again. I also realize I will be disappointed at some point.
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Me, too, and there's a real good chance we're both going to be disappointed the next time around. I expect the GOP will be back with another Romney type loser, the dems will have their own special retread, and we'll all be the worse for it.
 
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AM64 said:
Yeah, he's not a lifelong politician. That's a nice change. Before you go getting all moralistic ... he's no worse than the political lifers ... just different in his own way.
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That's just going to be an area where we continue to disagree.
 
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AM64 said:
Me, too, and there's a real good chance we're both going to be disappointed the next time around. I expect the GOP will be back with another Romney type loser, the dems will have their own special retread, and we'll all be the worse for it.
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Trump set the "outsider" movement back quite a bit.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What makes you think this is a good long term political strategy? Because Trump beat Hillary? Because he'll probably beat whatever pathetic candidate they pump out this election cycle? Trump would get crushed by Obama or by literally any other palatable candidate. The fact that he has won is not evidence that it's what R's should be doing. R's started backing Trump more after he won, and then they lost like 45 seats in the House.
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Now tell us what happened in the Senate that same election
 
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luthervol said:
The repubs were not bringing a dinner knife to a gun fight.
Repubs and Dems were somewhat equal in their weaponry and muddiness.
Trumpism brought mustard gas to the fight and moved it from the mud to the sewers.
It's lunacy to think that Trump is an equalizer.
Trump did nothing but lower the standards of acceptability......substantially.
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Not even close, the left has always been nasty. The only 2 things I have ever admired about the left: you all stick together no matter what and you all fight for what you want no matter what it takes
 
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volfanjustin said:
Now tell us what happened in the Senate that same election
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Two seats, right?...one of the R's in the senate was appointed after losing to a D (to a bisexual atheist in a purple state)...

On the net, R's still lost bigly.
 
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luthervol said:
The divide can either be lessened or increased.
Trump has always been tied to its increase.
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No he hasn’t...... He can only have an effect on the mentally weak which there seems to be more and more of in the USA.... what has he done that has negatively affected your life?
 
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