Republicans Who Have Ruined Their Political Careers Over Trump

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n_huffhines said:
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I think our point of disagreement is you put more blame on the voters and I put more blame on the lack of leaders who can effectively sell their vision.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Disgraced Republicans used to resign from office. Now you can pay to commit adultery with a gross porn star or say "grab 'em by the *****" and nobody even bats an eye. This is a complete change from the Republican party I grew up with.

Republicans generally took the high road, and now Trump goes for the lowest road possible, and R's slurp that **** up.

It's so easy to blame one data point. Even if you want to say things were already going in this direction, fine, but the change in trajectory is stark.
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Again. I dont see it that way.

W was a crack head. Reagan was a movie star. I have no problem seeing either of them being a womanizer in their day. They just had long(er) political career to distance themselves from that. From what the public knows Trump hasnt messed around in office to be any worse than those two.

Then you through in Bill Clinton messing around with an intern while married with a kid, while in office (3 strikes) and I had a hard time seem Trumps time in public office as worse than that.

Sure if you want to compare private Trump to public anyone but Bill, Trump looks bad. But that's not a fair comparison to judge someone on. Imo.

Imo unless he hurt someone no one should care what a private individual does. A public official, sure care and judge away. But private is private.
 
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McDad said:
Then, you haven't changed for the better. It's for the worse.
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I have changed because I will never vote for another R like Romney or McCain. If the Republican Party ever nominates another one in that line I will sit the election out. Voting 3rd party is a complete waste and the dems are so far gone they won’t ever nominate someone who isn’t a radical ever again.
 
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LouderVol said:
Again. I dont see it that way.

W was a crack head. Reagan was a movie star. I have no problem seeing either of them being a womanizer in their day. They just had long(er) political career to distance themselves from that. From what the public knows Trump hasnt messed around in office to be any worse than those two.

Then you through in Bill Clinton messing around with an intern while married with a kid, while in office (3 strikes) and I had a hard time seem Trumps time in public office as worse than that.

Sure if you want to compare private Trump to public anyone but Bill, Trump looks bad. But that's not a fair comparison to judge someone on. Imo.

Imo unless he hurt someone no one should care what a private individual does. A public official, sure care and judge away. But private is private.
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The left used to say what went on in someone’s bedroom isn’t anyone else’s business, that has suddenly changed
 
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volfanjustin said:
I have changed because I will never vote for another R like Romney or McCain. If the Republican Party ever nominates another one in that line I will sit the election out. Voting 3rd party is a complete waste and the dems are so far gone they won’t ever nominate someone who isn’t a radical ever again.
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I am a pariah already. I don't vote anymore. I don't blame you for not voting for Rinos. Unfortunately, they're all Rinos.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'm fascinated by the number of Republicans who have lost all their power in politics due to their behavior since Trump came on the scene. This is particularly interesting because Trump has turned out to be an enormously popular President within his party. I encourage the rest of you to add onto my list 'cause this is just off the top of my head:

1) Mitt Romney-gone from very nearly elected President to now being done politically. He couldn't win election as dog catcher. Republicans hate him and Democrats will never accept him. He's done as a politician and has no political power

2) John Kasich-He was a very popular governor of a very influential state. His next step politically had no ceiling. Now that he refused to attend the 2016 GOP convention in his own state, he's through politically. See above (Mitt Romney)

3) Bill Kristol-Lost his political significance. He's through

4) George Will- See above

5) Jeb Bush-See John Kasich. Jeb is through politically

6) Michael Medved- Had a pretty nice talk radio show. He was what I'd call a Bush Republican but still a steady supporter. But viewers tired of his attitude (negatively) towards Trump and his show was cancelled in most if not all markets in favor of Trump supporting hosts like Sebastian Gorka and Larry Elder

7) John Bolton- He can't even get an invite to a Fox News after party

That list was purely my own. I didn't get that from any website or article. I welcome your comments and contributions to this subject

If you want to read further on this phenomena, here's an article that talks about the miscalculations of these Never Trumpers, how they got it wrong and how they're paying the price:

The Cruel Reality Of Life As One Of The Media's Never-Trump Waterboys
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It’s called payback. Knowledge is power. They’re running for the hills. If the law don’t getem, we the people will. WWG1WGA.
 
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volfanjustin said:
I will ask again, have you ever voted for anyone where you agreed with them on every policy?
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I'm not going to be complicit in your derailment of the topic, especially when the answer is self-evident. Nobody is talking about voting for somebody you perfectly agree with. I'm not even really talking about how they vote, I'm talking about how they respond to Trump.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm not going to be complicit in your derailment of the topic, especially when the answer is self-evident. Nobody is talking about voting for somebody you perfectly agree with. I'm not even really talking about how they vote, I'm talking about how they respond to Trump.
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It's not even every policy like Justin asked. It's a core group of principles that I am looking for in a candidate. I'd be ecstatic to find a candidate that earnestly believed as I do on about 3 key policies.
 
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McDad said:
I am a pariah already. I don't vote anymore. I don't blame you for not voting for Rinos. Unfortunately, they're all Rinos.
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I don’t think of them as Rinos . Ever see the movie The mummy , were the tomb thief is having to take his knife and dig out those scarabs that’s so deep in the wall that he’s having to pry them out ? That’s what I call our congressmen , SCARABs
 
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0nelilreb said:
It’s all entertainment . You and a couple of others have the best seat in the house . You sit straddling a fence b!tching about both sides like harpies telling everybody what’s good or bad but never having to throw your hat in the ring . Oh I may vote for some guy out of Arizona , Utah , Wisconsin, Montana with no hope of even sniffing the Oval Office . “ at least he’s this or that “ ... blah blah blah . Be hot or cold don’t be luke warm , nobody like tepid water .

Odd ..I thought that was all just in my head . I’ve got to work on that inside outside voice thing more .
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The issue is you say you want hot water. But are willing to settle on water that's been sitting in the sun for a little while. While those of us "straddling the fence" are saying it's not hot water. And you get defensive about how luke warm water is the best thing ever.
 
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LouderVol said:
The issue is you say you want hot water. But are willing to settle on water that's been sitting in the sun for a little while. While those of us "straddling the fence" are saying it's not hot water. And you get defensive about how luke warm water is the best thing ever.
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Have you ever seen anything productive come from being a fence sitter ? You eventually have to take a stand . You want a specific piece of legislature passed then vote for the one that will pass it . You want more socialism then vote for Bernie . You want lower taxes vote R . My ire was directly mostly at Huff because he loves to complain but other than libertarian articles offers no resolution, no plan , nothing but criticism. I don’t consider voting for a nobody , with no recognition and not one scintilla of hope of taking the oval as anything but a protest vote . There’s nothing wrong with it except that it will never be anything more than that . At least rise up and tear some stuff down . Be anti politics , hell I’ll join you and we can watch it all burn together .
 
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n_huffhines said:
I'm not going to be complicit in your derailment of the topic, especially when the answer is self-evident. Nobody is talking about voting for somebody you perfectly agree with. I'm not even really talking about how they vote, I'm talking about how they respond to Trump.
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That's about what I expected
 
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I remember the moral outage over Gary Hart and Donna Rice when I was a very young adult. When I saw pictures of her I didn’t think “oh the outrage” I was more like “hell ya I’d hit it too!” Then he drops out of the race and I’m like “wtf?!”
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I remember the moral outage over Gary Hart and Donna Rice when I was a very young adult. When I saw pictures of her I didn’t think “oh the outrage” I was more like “hell ya I’d hit it too!” Then he drops out of the race and I’m like “wtf?!”
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Lol
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I remember the moral outage over Gary Hart and Donna Rice when I was a very young adult. When I saw pictures of her I didn’t think “oh the outrage” I was more like “hell ya I’d hit it too!” Then he drops out of the race and I’m like “wtf?!”
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Donna Rice????

Lol
 
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