RFK out of the race. Tells America to support Trump!

[Volfan8282]

What do they charge these days for dead bears and brain worms, anyway?

Face it, the marriage of Trump and RFK is the definition of the Island of Misfits.

As a a true independent, who is the last Republican that you voted for?

 

[InVOLuntary]

Keep telling yourself that so you can feel good about voting the way you do. Corruption is Corruption. If it is a minor infraction the other side will blow it up like a weather balloon packed with helium and send it soaring.

There is made up corruption, there is corruption that we may never know about and there is corruption that will come out in years to come.

Your post is very speculative in nature, as is mine and it is easy to assume there is corruption on both sides. To assume the level of corruption is irresponsible as you have attempted to turn it into a Republican-Democrat political comparison.

Mine is based 100% on factual information. You either don't care, are ignorant, or approve. Where do you stand?

 

[InVOLuntary]

More than just a money swap. Dumping cocaine across the US is sort of "targeting" Americans.

That was not part of the Iran/Contra deal. It may have been a by product but it wasn't part of the plan.

If you really were a centrist as you claim, you would attack the Steele dossier, Obama spying on Trump, the DOJ urging social media to dismiss the Biden laptop as Russian propaganda, criticizing the dnc and msm for propagating the Russian collusion nonsense, but here we are. Instead we get but Trump, but Republicans.

 

[BreatheUT]

Ok. Let’s say I concede that.

Now. What part of what he said below isn’t accurate?

“It ran a sham primary that was rigged to prevent any serious challenge to President Biden. Then when a predictably bungled debate performance precipitated the palace coup against President Biden, the same shadowy DNC operatives appointed his successor, also without an election.

They installed a candidate who was so unpopular with voters that she dropped out in 2020 without winning a single delegate. My uncle and my father both relished debate. They prided themselves on their capacity to go toe to toe with any opponent in the battle over ideas.

They would be astonished to learn of a Democratic Party presidential nominee who, like Vice President Harris, has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days. This is profoundly undemocratic. How are people to choose when they don't know whom they are choosing, and how can this look to the rest of the world?

My father and my uncle were always conscious of America's image abroad because of our nation's role as the template for democracy, a role model for democratic processes, and the leader of the free world. Instead of showing us her substance and character, the DNC and its media organs engineered a surge of popularity for Vice President Harris based upon, well, nothing.

No policies, no interviews, no debates, only smoke and mirrors, and balloons in a highly produced Chicago circus. There in Chicago, a string of democratic speakers mentioned Donald Trump 147 times just on the first day.

Who needs a policy when you have Trump to hate? In contrast, at the RNC convention, President Biden was mentioned only twice in four days. I do interviews every day. Many of you have interviewed me.

Anybody who asks gets to interview me. Some days I do as many as 10.

President Trump, who actually was nominated and won an election, also does interviews daily. How did the Democratic Party choose a candidate that has never done an interview or debate during the entire election cycle? We know the answers. They did it by weaponizing the government agencies.

They did it by abandoning democracy. They did it by suing the opposition, and by disenfranchising American voters. What most alarms me isn't how the Democratic Party conducts its internal affairs or runs its candidates. What alarms me is the resort to censorship and media control and the weaponization of the federal agencies” -RFK

RFK was throwing 100 mph fast balls!

 

[Sudden Impact]

Can you name more than 5 prominent politicians that you think have a good moral compass?

Most of them have left because they had good moral compasses. Paul Ryan is a start. Pence is another if and only if you are talking morals. There is a bigger list Kemp is another. There is more and some still serving. So don't limit the timeline to what you want to hear. There are comfortably more on the Republican side that the Democrats, but it only takes one bad apple and a void of social media BS to corrupt the entire lot.
There is a reason for the Separation of Church and State because Politicians (executives) sometimes have to make moral decisions that they do not align their morals. You are looking for a simple answer to attack. Corruption is Corruption.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

That was not part of the Iran/Contra deal. It may have been a by product but it wasn't part of the plan.

If you really were a centrist as you claim, you would attack the Steele dossier, Obama spying on Trump, the DOJ urging social media to dismiss the Biden laptop as Russian propaganda, criticizing the dnc and msm for propagating the Russian collusion nonsense, but here we are. Instead we get but Trump, but Republicans.

You make it up as you go. If, if, if

I've spoke out against those things. Having not done it enough for you means nothing. Being a centrist has nothing to do with redundancy. My voting record and ideological views speak for it quite easily. Using my disdain for Trump has nothing to do with it.

You are still angry

 

[InVOLuntary]

You make it up as you go. If, if, if

I've spoke out against those things. Having not done it enough for you means nothing. Being a centrist has nothing to do with redundancy. My voting record and ideological views speak for it quite easily. Using my disdain for Trump has nothing to do with it.

You are still angry

Lol, you're the angry one. I've not insulted you one time, yet you on the other hand. You may fool yourself, you may fool others, but your and Luther are two peas in a pod, he's just man enough to own his.

 

[Majors]

He’s a Kennedy….. it’s what Kennedys do.

Family/Democrats stuck by Ted seeking the senate and Presidency, after killing a woman. Family may want to sit this one out.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Lol, you're the angry one. I've not insulted you one time, yet you on the other hand. You may fool yourself, you may fool others, but your and Luther are two peas in a pod, he's just man enough to own his.

Yeah, you're angry and full of grievances to air with anyone that doesn't agree with you

No matter how many times you type "LOL" , you can't hide it.

 

[Sudden Impact]

@InVOLuntary​

I will Make it real easy on you and Keep It current.

Where does Trump fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Where does Harris fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Both running for President. Leave the Parties out of your assessment.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yeah, you're angry and full of grievances to air with anyone that doesn't agree with you

No matter how many times you type "LOL" , you can't hide it.

Why, you literally make me laugh. I really couldn't care less whether you agree with me or not. I literally set up the perfect opportunity for you to prove your "centrist" views. I gave you the opportunity to criticize the democrats for their corruption, illegal actions and what do you do? Pull up the Iran/Contra stuff from the 80's. You're really helping yourself here.

 

[InVOLuntary]

@InVOLuntary​

I will Make it real easy on you and Keep It current.

Where does Trump fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Where does Harris fall on the Moral Compass Scale of Corruption? 1-10?
1-least, 10-most

Both running for President. Leave the Parties out of your assessment.

I'd say they're both in the 4-5 range. My point is more about the democratic party. I've mentioned several things that the DNC has done that was illegal and should be prosecuted. If you can name those same tactics by the RNC, I'll criticize them as well.

The DNC, Harris/Walz ticket claim that Trump is the enemy of democracy. Has Trump done anything similar to those things that have proven to have been done by Obama/Clintons/the DNC? Is Trump trying to circumvent the 1st amendment?

 

[Sudden Impact]

Lol, you're the angry one. I've not insulted you one time, yet you on the other hand. You may fool yourself, you may fool others, but your and Luther are two peas in a pod, he's just man enough to own his.

You just did insult him comparing him to Luther. And to boot you insulted the manhood. All because he is calling you out. You should read what you post. I not sure which of the two Presidential Candidates you sound like in doing so, Harris or Trump?

 

[InVOLuntary]

You just did insult him comparing him to Luther. And to boot you insulted the manhood. All because he is calling you out. You should read what you post. I not sure which of the two Presidential Candidates you sound like in doing so, Harris or Trump?

Lol, so saying he's like luther is an insult? Seriously?

 

[Sudden Impact]

I'd say they're both in the 4-5 range. My point is more about the democratic party. I've mentioned several things that the DNC has done that was illegal and should be prosecuted. If you can name those same tactics by the RNC, I'll criticize them as well.

The DNC, Harris/Walz ticket claim that Trump is the enemy of democracy. Has Trump done anything similar to those things that have proven to have been done by Obama/Clintons/the DNC? Is Trump trying to circumvent the 1st amendment?

You shifted the argument when you requested a list of individual's with moral compasses and corruption. Then went to levels of corruption. A lot of gibberish to frame the perfect response you wanted.

 

[Sudden Impact]

Lol, so saying he's like luther is an insult? Seriously?

Luther is in his a Category he owns of which no one on this board should aspire to be in. He takes a lot of hits but he has good points as well. But he is on a different level and gets out on limb. Goat is steady as I am as well. Neither candidate is qualified IMO to run this country. Both have their own agendas and both are not a good fix for this country. One will over serve this country and one will only serve himself for his profit.

Extreme opposites and this country needs balance.

 

[InVOLuntary]

You shifted the argument when you requested a list of individual's with moral compasses and corruption. Then went to levels of corruption. A lot of gibberish to frame the perfect response you wanted.

No, I never used the word morals, that was you. I mention several things that Obama/Clinton/DNC have done, things that are illegal. I asked you to find me similar things that Trump/the RNC has done similarly. You've not addressed any of those things. So again, I ask you, are you ignorant, don't care, or approve?

 

[jmacvols1]

My guess on Dems to join Trump campaign...Gabbard, Manchin.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Why, you literally make me laugh. I really couldn't care less whether you agree with me or not. I literally set up the perfect opportunity for you to prove your "centrist" views. I gave you the opportunity to criticize the democrats for their corruption, illegal actions and what do you do? Pull up the Iran/Contra stuff from the 80's. You're really helping yourself here.

I'm not trying to help myself with anyone. You're the one who is trying so hard to prove a point you have no chance of proving.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Luther is in his on Category.

I agree with Luther about .000000001% of the time, same with LG, but I respect them for being 100% behind their ideals. Its the ones that claim they're one thing and act polar opposite that I have zero respect for.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'm not trying to help myself with anyone. You're the one who is trying so hard to prove a point you have no chance of proving.

Appreciate the help.

 

[GordonC]

I agree with Luther about .000000001% of the time, same with LG, but I respect them for being 100% behind their ideals. Its the ones that claim they're one thing and act polar opposite that I have zero respect for.

dat bad math and "independent" chit doe

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Appreciate the help.

You're welcome

 

[lawgator1]

As a a true independent, who is the last Republican that you voted for?

For POTUS? None so far. This year if it had been Haley or Hogan versus Harris, I'd almost certainly have voted Republican this year.

Statewide and locally I have voted for more Republicans than I can count.

 

[DaddyChad]

All Trump had to do was hang out at Mar-a-lago and play golf, making the occasional public appearance.

Nah, the media is so weaponized for the dems it’s pitiful. This isn’t even about policy or competency which is what it should be about. Let’s go through the issues though real quick and you tell me honestly where Trump is worse. Both candidates aren’t great human beings so let’s save that bs for another day and see who is a better leader.

Economy:
I mean would even many dems argue what policies Kamala is purposing is a disaster. If you do unrealized capital gains it’s opening Pandora’s box. Even if it’s just high net worth individuals it would likely crash the piss out of the stock market and have a ripple effect through most publicly traded companies that leads to more cost cutting and more lay offs. The 25k tax credit for first time home buyers? Who the F is paying for that; like we don’t already know. Are those millions of illegal immigrants that likely get citizenship going to be included?

Immigration:
Again this has been a cluster for this administration. Kamala has done her best to distance herself from this, media has done their best to help her as well. She was proclaimed the border Czar by Biden and several media outlets not they try to cover for her. We’ve had more illegal immigrants, more terrorists, more drugs come across the border during this administration. The media will show a bunch of bs stats but if you look objectively at everything Kamala has ever done or endorsed you can see the issue with her on this subject. Rationally you cannot have lower prices on products when you have more demand than ever for those products. You cannot address unemployment when you’re filling jobs with illegals instead of American citizens. You can’t have programs for Americans and funded by American tax payers not go belly up when they’re giving benefits to illegal immigrants. This is a matter of national security as well when you have people on the terror watch list making it into the country.

Abortion
I’m pro life on pretty much everything but I can see a few instances like rape, incest, life threatening complications in which abortion would be needed. Ultimately I don’t agree with this being an issue controlled by the federal government.

There’s plenty of issues that I disagree with Trump on or feel like there’s middle ground we could get to if everything wasn’t so polarized. That said I at least somewhat know where he stands. Kamala’s platform is her identity mostly; she’s a woman, she’s black, she’s new and refreshing. There’s no substance there though. She doesn’t answer questions unscripted; say what you want about Trump but he’ll go right into any forum even where they hate him and answer the questions. The media doesn’t want to try to figure out who is the best candidate; they just seem to want to be a propaganda machine.

I’m not someone that think Donald Trump is the greatest human to walk the earth either or that he’s the best choice for president. I simply think he’s the best choice of the two choices we’ve been given.