Richmond is taking down Confederate statues: Is this the end for other Confederate memorials?

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Britney Spears statues should replace New Orleans’ Confederate ones, petition says


Oops she did it again.

Britney Spears is the subject of a new petition aimed at replacing New Orleans’ statues of Confederate soldiers with statues of “Louisiana hero Britney Spears,” TMZ reported Friday.

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The Change.org petition dubs the 38-year-old singer, who grew up about 90 miles north of New Orleans in Kentwood, “one of the world’s most important and influential pop legends,” and an “an inspiration to millions.”

Both her talent and character have made her worthy of such an honor, the petition notes, pointing to Spears overcoming oft publicized mental health issues and “continuously working toward improving herself.”

Among the highlights the petition points to are Spears’ donations to Louisiana flood victims.

Britney Spears statues should replace New Orleans’ Confederate ones, petition says
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Pretty sure statues of Louis Armstrong, the Marsallises, Allan Touissant and Dr John should come before a Brittney statue.
 
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New Mexico man charged after protest gunfire, as investigators say crowd 'appeared to maliciously pursue' him

Former Albuquerque city council candidate Steven Baca was charged Tuesday in a shooting that unfolded at a protest the day before, as videos and witness statements portray a chaotic scene before the gunfire rang out.

Baca, 31, was booked in the Metropolitan Detention Center and charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon with a firearm enhancement, according to a criminal complaint outlining the details of his arrest. The investigation was ongoing, however, as details of the protest continued to emerge.

A man was shot during the demonstration Monday in New Mexico, where some protesters had been trying to topple a bronze conquistador statue outside an Albuquerque museum, investigators said. The shooting took place amid heated tension between the protesters and the New Mexico Civil Guard, an armed civilian group that sought to protect the statue. The monument featured Spanish conquistador Juan de Oñate, The Albuquerque Journal reported.

The complaint stated that a bystander's cellphone footage showed Baca defending the statue, then leaving the area and heading "toward the street interacting with the crowd." Shortly after that, an undercover detective saw members of what appeared to be the protest group chasing after Baca. Baca then tried to back away while using pepper spray to create distance between himself and the crowd, the witness said.

"The group appeared to maliciously pursue Steven, with several of the crowd's individuals striking Steven's body with their hands and legs," the report stated.

He allegedly was hit with a longboard by one of the protesters, while he tried to protect his head and body. When a second protester picked up the longboard and swung it at Steven's head a second time, that's when gunshots were heard, according to the complaint.

Baca was seen on video firing several shots at a man later identified as Scott Williams. Williams suffered multiple wounds to his torso and was rushed to a nearby hospital, where he was listed in critical but stable condition, according to police. Investigators were not able to interview him right away, due to his injuries.

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Albuquerque police detaining members of the New Mexico Civil Guard after the gunfire in Albuquerque. (Adolphe Pierre-Louis/The Albuquerque Journal via AP)

New Mexico man charged after protest gunfire, as investigators say crowd 'appeared to maliciously pursue' him
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Tear down the Confederate statues? In other words, get rid of the Democrat History evidence?
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I don't see armed Democrats crying over a failed ideology. The confederacy lasted what, 5 years? And there were food shortages within those 5 years. That's some heritage right there, something to be proud of.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I don't see armed Democrats crying over a failed ideology. The confederacy lasted what, 5 years? And there were food shortages within those 5 years. That's some heritage right there, something to be proud of.
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Food shortages because the land was ravaged, crops destroyed, and livestock taken by foreign invaders.
 
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LouderVol said:
South carolina formally requested the removal of federal troops from their state before they seceded. The feds refused. The feds were then seen as forcibly holding territory in South Carolina.
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States can not just say we secede and boom it is so. It does not work that way.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
States can not just say we secede and boom it is so. It does not work that way.
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What way does it work? There was a vote by the population. They voted to secede. The state wrote up legislation, voted on it, governor signed it and they announced their withdrawal. All of this was after maybe a decade of back and forth with Congress and various presidents.

It wasnt some light switch.

You have to remember it wasnt the United States of America IS. It was the United States of America ARE. Everyone identified by state rather than American. There were still first generation americans around. There were states joining the union. We were still fighting foreign nations for land that is now the US.

The united states, even to this day, is supposed to be a collection of states on equal footing with each other. And it took lincoln taking hugely unconstitutional steps to create this federal government that has become some overwrought with power. There was no reason at the time to think they couldnt just leave.
 
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LouderVol said:
What way does it work? There was a vote by the population. They voted to secede. The state wrote up legislation, voted on it, governor signed it and they announced their withdrawal. All of this was after maybe a decade of back and forth with Congress and various presidents.

It wasnt some light switch.

You have to remember it wasnt the United States of America IS. It was the United States of America ARE. Everyone identified by state rather than American. There were still first generation americans around. There were states joining the union. We were still fighting foreign nations for land that is now the US.

The united states, even to this day, is supposed to be a collection of states on equal footing with each other. And it took lincoln taking hugely unconstitutional steps to create this federal government that has become some overwrought with power. There was no reason at the time to think they couldnt just leave.
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So you are saying that the United States is a collection of sovereign states? Not a Unified nation of individual states with consolidated power.
 
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Not sure if this belongs here or not, but here is Dan Wolken continuing his quest to be the most socially aware and biggest douche of a journalist going.
He raises a good question... should UNLV change it’s mascot? I’m sure that’s what he referring to
 
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