Rick Barnes discussion (merged)

[wmcovol]

I understand what your saying. But end of the day the coaches isn’t missing the shots not have they missed 14 free throws tonight.

No but coaches can “mindfu-k” players to the point they miss them.

 

[1985Vols]

It’s not smart to believe that player development comes from somewhere other than workouts. Experience and development are separate things.

Hopefully BHH is strong mentally. If not, he’ll be in the portal like every other great big man CRB has recruited. ( Walker and Burns could really help this team)

 

[VolFreakJosh]

so...on record none of my money has gone into bottom lines and salaries. Got it.

Barnes would get paid the same whether you put in $100 or $0.

Your argument makes no sense.

 

[southgatevol]

Or read between the lines. Two game. R32 dumb ass

Won't resort to the name calling but point was if you can win the first, 1 favorable bounce can win the second. Not that much difference.

 

[wmcovol]

Pardon my ignorance but does a show cause just apply to ncaa institutions. tyndal got 10 years and he's back coaching at Chipola.

yes. NCAA has no control over NAIA or NJCAA.

 

[wmcovol]

Not great from what I hear

White is thinking “who signed THIS guy to a $6 million deal?”

 

[docholiday]

1 Final 4 in 35 years. Not a great track record in March

It's not rocket science. There are 2 calls to make. Buzz Williams and Steve Forbes.

 

[VolArmy74]

Pardon my ignorance but does a show cause just apply to ncaa institutions. tyndal got 10 years and he's back coaching at Chipola.

A show cause is NCAA only. You can actually hire a coach with a show cause. It just means a ton of compliance and paperwork. You have to go before the NCAA every 6 months and show them that the coach is following the rules. Rob Senderoff got a 30 month show cause during the Kelvin Sampson stuff at Indiana and was hired by Kent State immediately, and soon promoted to head coach.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Won't resort to the name calling but point was if you can win the first, 1 favorable bounce can win the second. Not that much difference.

Theres a huge difference, teams get better as you move forward.

 

[cncchris33]

Pearl is a cheater. However, he is a better coach than Barnes all day long. Just the way it is. I am happy with Barnes as the coach. Tennessee could do a whole lot worse and has.

Maybe he is. I just don't know why the measure of success has to be what Pearl is doing. Why is he the constant benchmark? As good of a coach as he is, he is an equally measured piece of crap person. Barnes has never embarrassed our university or torpedoed our program, even if he is arguably a slightly lesser coach. I'm fine with that.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

It's not rocket science. There are 2 calls to make. Buzz Williams and Steve Forbes.

Buzz Williams is a Texas native and Steve Forbes? Lmao

No comment.

 

[VOLED]

Alabama lost to a terrible Mizzou team. Kansas lost. Purdue almost lost again. Arkansas lost. The list goes on and on. Lots of fan bases firing lots of coaches today.

So Purdue is going to fire a coach for "almost losing"? They are a tough fan base.

 

[southgatevol]

Theres a huge difference, teams get better as you move forward.

So the better team always wins?

 

[1985Vols]

Maybe he is. I just don't know why the measure of success has to be what Pearl is doing. Why is he the constant benchmark? As good of a coach as he is, he is an equally measured piece of crap person. Barnes has never embarrassed our university or torpedoed our program, even if he is arguably a slightly lesser coach. I'm fine with that.

“ slightly lesser “? Barnes isn’t in the same league with Pearl. Look at their head to head. Pearl even beat Barnes when he had Kevin Durant

 

[patrick]

There’s that million dollar raise again. I wonder if anybody has let Barnes know yet.

Look up his contract - its public record.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

So the better team always wins?

You have to be good enough to get close enough to get that bounce, or you have to have the system that closes that gap. This team is neither.

 

[patrick]

Ok well then who should we hire then that’s legit so Danny White knows who to call when Barnes leaves.

When you’re paying 6 million per year - the pool is deep and wide. SMH.

 

[southgatevol]

So Purdue is going to fire a coach for "almost losing"? They are a tough fan base.

In fairness we have some fans willing to fire Barnes over "almost losing" quite frequently.

 

[patrick]

Hopefully BHH is strong mentally. If not, he’ll be in the portal like every other great big man CRB has recruited. ( Walker and Burns could really help this team)

Oh he will be gone after this season.

 

[LibertyVol]

Maybe he is. I just don't know why the measure of success has to be what Pearl is doing. Why is he the constant benchmark? As good of a coach as he is, he is an equally measured piece of crap person. Barnes has never embarrassed our university or torpedoed our program, even if he is arguably a slightly lesser coach. I'm fine with that.

I am fine with Barnes as coach. I think I said that.

 

[southgatevol]

You have to be good enough to get close enough to get that bounce, or you have to have the system that closes that gap. This team is neither.

Sorry for your pessimism. Hope things get better for you. I will concede to your pessimistic view for now.

 

[SGMVols]

It's not rocket science. There are 2 calls to make. Buzz Williams and Steve Forbes.

Buzz would say no, and once you get a show cause at UT it forever disqualifies you from future employment at UT.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Sorry for your pessimism. Hope things get better for you. I will concede to your pessimistic view for now.

Im going by what I see on the floor.
Have a good day.

 

[VOLED]

In fairness we have some fans willing to fire Barnes over "almost losing" quite frequently.

Not the majority.

 

[southgatevol]

A

Not the majority.

Agreed.