Rick Barnes discussion (merged)

[MinisterofDef#92]

Derrick Walker and DJ Burns we’re both good players that are no longer here. Barnes can’t recruit and keep good big men on campus

This is silly even for you and that's saying something

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

Derrick Walker and DJ Burns we’re both good players that are no longer here. Barnes can’t recruit and keep good big men on campus

This is silly even for you and that's saying something...lol. There are valid reasons to complain about CRB but this is not one of them.

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

Again, do you not understand that other schools have money too, and can match offers?

In a simplistic black and white message board world context and reality often are ignored

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

*Full disclosure, barring a miracle SEC tourney title win in 2020, we weren't making the NCAAs that year had it not been cancelled.

Rest of statement is correct without any comments needing extra context.

The 'ol omniscient poster self-delusion...lol

 

[MinisterofDef#92]

10% chance of Oats leaving Bama.

You really think they’re going to let him walk to one of their rival schools?

Crazy talk.

Don't bring logic and reality into the armchair world they have created...you might burst their echo chamber...lol

 

[05_never_again]

He won 23 games the year he was being investigated and they cancelled the season for covid. If he was throttling down, what do you call TN's cooling off after Grant left.

He was throttling down from 30-35 win seasons to 20-25 win seasons, and losing 7-8 conference games a year (in the AAC) instead of 0-2 (in the Missouri Valley).

 

[ThatVolGuy]

At this point I'm just shrugging my shoulders. Rick Barnes is a great guy but I think we all know what we've got at this point. Not sure we can dump him and do better at the moment, so ... we can just deal with it.

 

[GrayWaterCanine]

At this point I'm just shrugging my shoulders. Rick Barnes is a great guy but I think we all know what we've got at this point. Not sure we can dump him and do better at the moment, so ... we can just deal with it.

You just have to hope that by the time he walks away, he's left something salvageable.

 

[cardvolfan]

Bill Battle was better than anything we've had in football in quite a while.

Ummm, he slowly allowed the program to implode. They couldn’t bring Johnny in fast enough. Are you serious about your statement?

 

[OneVolNation]

A few thoughts. Some of the reactions to the UK game seem knee-jerk. This team is the same team that beat Arizona and Colorado.
Bad games happen. Covid drained energy and disrupted team chemistry. At the end of the day, we still have a good team.
A strong showing in the conference tournament and run of any kind in the NCAA tourney will only confirm this.
What would happen if we suppored Coach Barnes and the team the rest of this season instead of mutiny which would do no one but our
rivals any good anyway?

Go Vols!

 

[vettefool]

A few thoughts. Some of the reactions to the UK game seem knee-jerk. This team is the same team that beat Arizona and Colorado.
Bad games happen. Covid drained energy and disrupted team chemistry. At the end of the day, we still have a good team.
A strong showing in the conference tournament and run of any kind in the NCAA tourney will only confirm this.
What would happen if we suppored Coach Barnes and the team the rest of this season instead of mutiny which would do no one but our
rivals any good anyway?

Go Vols!

Yeah, I agree, things could turn around. I spent years supporting the lady Vols. I mean really really supporting$. The mens team was mediocre at best during that time. The women were top of the world with a hall of fame coach. Then along came Hollie Warlick. I lost interest in sorry coaching, and by then Bruce had the men on A roll. When Barnes was hired I figured he was looking for a place to build up a larger nest egg to retire. I was pleased with his success, disappointed in ncaa tournament results.
now, I’m just going to enjoy the womens run. Hope it continues.I suppose that makes me a fair weather fan. So be it, I’ve only got so many years left to enjoy Tennessee sports success.

 

[Vols8086]

A few thoughts. Some of the reactions to the UK game seem knee-jerk. This team is the same team that beat Arizona and Colorado.
Bad games happen. Covid drained energy and disrupted team chemistry. At the end of the day, we still have a good team.
A strong showing in the conference tournament and run of any kind in the NCAA tourney will only confirm this.
What would happen if we suppored Coach Barnes and the team the rest of this season instead of mutiny which would do no one but our
rivals any good anyway?

Go Vols!

This is basically the same thing people were saying at this time last season and we ended up being disappointed in that result. So why are we expecting a different ending this year?

 

[calban]

Ummm, he slowly allowed the program to implode. They couldn’t bring Johnny in fast enough. Are you serious about your statement?

He had 4 or 5 good years, in which the team was ranked and played in post season. Who's done that since Fulmer?

 

[cardvolfan]

You might check those last 4 years when most of the players he recruited were juniors and seniors. He inherited great talent and couldn’t sustain the program.

 

[1985Vols]

Yeah, I agree, things could turn around. I spent years supporting the lady Vols. I mean really really supporting$. The mens team was mediocre at best during that time. The women were top of the world with a hall of fame coach. Then along came Hollie Warlick. I lost interest in sorry coaching, and by then Bruce had the men on A roll. When Barnes was hired I figured he was looking for a place to build up a larger nest egg to retire. I was pleased with his success, disappointed in ncaa tournament results.
now, I’m just going to enjoy the womens run. Hope it continues.I suppose that makes me a fair weather fan. So be it, I’ve only got so many years left to enjoy Tennessee sports success.

Barnes has definitely accomplished “ building a larger nest egg To retire” . In the meantime, we continue to overwhelm in recruiting and underwhelm on the court

 

[1985Vols]

This is basically the same thing people were saying at this time last season and we ended up being disappointed in that result. So why are we expecting a different ending this year?

Most of us realists see the same sh!t, different year scenario playing out

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

Most of us realists see the same sh!t, different year scenario playing out

You? A realist? LOL

 

[The Dog]

Most of us realists see the same sh!t, different year scenario playing out

You still think Pearl is coming back, that's not realistic. Plus, you overreact every game like basketball isn't a game of runs, during the game and during the season.

 

[1985Vols]

You? A realist? LOL

At least I’m more of a realist than you Barnes worshipping sunshine pumpers. You all continue to convince yourselves it’s ok to pay a premium price for average results

 

[1985Vols]

You still think Pearl is coming back, that's not realistic. Plus, you overreact every game like basketball isn't a game of runs, during the game and during the season.

I’ve never said I thought Pearl was coming back. Do I wish we still had him as our coach, sure, I would love to be sniffing Final 4’s instead of first round upsets every year

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

At least I’m more of a realist than you Barnes worshipping sunshine pumpers. You all continue to convince yourselves it’s ok to pay a premium price for average results

We need a number of days since _____ for you.

It’s been 893 days since 1985Vols didn’t whine about Barnes’s salary.

 

[1985Vols]

We need a number of days since _____ for you.

It’s been 893 days since 1985Vols didn’t whine about Barnes’s salary.

I like it! And I’ll continue to drive home the fact that we are overpaying for the results we continue to get ( or not get)

 

[walkenvol]

At least I’m more of a realist than you Barnes worshipping sunshine pumpers. You all continue to convince yourselves it’s ok to pay a premium price for average results

You don’t pay a single $0.01 for CRB

 

[Thunder Good-Oil]

I like it! And I’ll continue to drive home the fact that we are overpaying for the results we continue to get ( or not get)

So were you okay with the $3.5 million salary before UCLA attempted to pick him off from lowly TN?

 

[1985Vols]

So were you okay with the $3.5 million salary before UCLA attempted to pick him off from lowly TN?

I could accept that a little better for the return we are getting from Barnes. Once Barnes used the UCLA job to get a $1.5M raise from UT, he increased the expectations. So far, Other than 2019, he’s pretty much average at best. Just like at Texas. Guess that’s why they fired him.