Riggs to Miami

#51
#51
(milohimself @ May 1 said:
Arguments of whether or not the SEC really is the best aside, I do find it very arguable that the SEC has the least parity of the major conferences. Vanderbilt and Kentucky are consistently two of the bottom 4-5 teams in all of the BCS conferences, and Ole Miss and Mississippi State are usually both nearly that bad. And until recently at least one of Arkansas and South Carolina would be a very poor team. That's one thing you have to admit about the SEC, it's a very tough conference to win but a team could also sleep their way to a bowl game.
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uh, what?

every conf. has it's perennial powers, and perennial bottom feeders....

but here's the thing in the SEC that sets it apart from all other conferences....competition.

a few facts for ya...(and not being an a$$ hole here, just think you might find this interesting....)

since the SEC split in to two divisions....only 4 teams have not played in the SEC CG...USC, Vandy, KY and Ole Miss. Only Three teams have failed to win at least a share of the division Title....all those above minus Ole Miss.

Only one team has failed to go to a bowl game since the split...vandy.

UGA, UF, UT, AUB, Alabama, LSU have all won the conference since the split. (1/2 the conference)

UT, LSU, UF and Alabama have all won National Titles since the split. (1/4 of the conference)

UT, UGA, LSU, UF, and Auburn have all played in BCS games since it's inception...and maybe Alabama...the year they played in the Orange bowl??? not sure what year though...(1/2 the conference)

So, while i agree, that our top half of the conf. is generally way better than the bottom half, it's not totally devoid of talent. But hell, even KY and Ole Miss have had flashes of being good in that time period....both played on New Year's day bowls since the split....

But there aren't many conferences out there that can boast the type of competition this conference has had over the past 15 years or so. the big 12? NEb, OK and TX....that's it. the Big 10...Mich and OSU...wth the one year Ill won the conf. The ACC...FSU won 11 or 12 straight conf. titles....the Big East....was all Miami and VT unitl last year, and now that conf. sucks. The Pac 10....maybe the only conf. out there that can at least show the same parity as the SEC...but USC has dominated that conf. for the past 4 years. Before then, when was their last NT? Washington in 90 or 91 when they were co champs with GA Tech?

that's why the SEC is the best conf...and it's no sleep walk to a bowl game, i think All TN fans can testify to that now.....and it's also why the SEC is such a tough conf.....year in and year out...there are 5 or 6 teams that have a legitimate shot at winning the conf., and usually 2 or 3 of those teams has a shot at a NT if things fall in to place.....but they haven't in a while because it's hard to go undefeated in the SEC....it's only been done twice in the last 10 years...Tn in 98 and Aub in 03...if i'm not mistaken.....before that, i think Bama did it in 92....not sure though...
 
#53
#53
(jakez4ut @ May 2 said:
uh, what?

every conf. has it's perennial powers, and perennial bottom feeders....

but here's the thing in the SEC that sets it apart from all other conferences....competition.

a few facts for ya...(and not being an a$$ hole here, just think you might find this interesting....)

since the SEC split in to two divisions....only 4 teams have not played in the SEC CG...USC, Vandy, KY and Ole Miss. Only Three teams have failed to win at least a share of the division Title....all those above minus Ole Miss.

Only one team has failed to go to a bowl game since the split...vandy.

UGA, UF, UT, AUB, Alabama, LSU have all won the conference since the split. (1/2 the conference)

UT, LSU, UF and Alabama have all won National Titles since the split. (1/4 of the conference)

UT, UGA, LSU, UF, and Auburn have all played in BCS games since it's inception...and maybe Alabama...the year they played in the Orange bowl??? not sure what year though...(1/2 the conference)

So, while i agree, that our top half of the conf. is generally way better than the bottom half, it's not totally devoid of talent. But hell, even KY and Ole Miss have had flashes of being good in that time period....both played on New Year's day bowls since the split....

But there aren't many conferences out there that can boast the type of competition this conference has had over the past 15 years or so. the big 12? NEb, OK and TX....that's it. the Big 10...Mich and OSU...wth the one year Ill won the conf. The ACC...FSU won 11 or 12 straight conf. titles....the Big East....was all Miami and VT unitl last year, and now that conf. sucks. The Pac 10....maybe the only conf. out there that can at least show the same parity as the SEC...but USC has dominated that conf. for the past 4 years. Before then, when was their last NT? Washington in 90 or 91 when they were co champs with GA Tech?

that's why the SEC is the best conf...and it's no sleep walk to a bowl game, i think All TN fans can testify to that now.....and it's also why the SEC is such a tough conf.....year in and year out...there are 5 or 6 teams that have a legitimate shot at winning the conf., and usually 2 or 3 of those teams has a shot at a NT if things fall in to place.....but they haven't in a while because it's hard to go undefeated in the SEC....it's only been done twice in the last 10 years...Tn in 98 and Aub in 03...if i'm not mistaken.....before that, i think Bama did it in 92....not sure though...
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Bama went undefeated in 1992, and Auburn went undefeated in 1993. The SEC is the only conference who has 4 different National Champions in the last 13 years, and 5 in the last 25.

And Ohio State is 0-7 vs the SEC in Bowl games.

And Michigan's worst defeat ever in a Bowl game came against you know who.

But you can pull games and stats for every league.

Arguing over who's the best is your opinion.

In my opinion, I think the SEC, Big 10 and ACC are the best now.

But Pac 10 fans, although they have a losing record against the SEC, will point out that they have a winning record against us lately.



 
#54
#54
(Jasongivm6 @ May 5 said:
But Pac 10 fans, although they have a losing record against the SEC, will point out that they have a winning record against us lately.
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The only conference vs. conference records I truly count as legit are from bowl games, because it does a decent job of ensuring an even matchup every time. Problem is Pac-10 and SEC have no bowl tie-ins in the same bowl game. If I thought otherwise I would have busted this stat out numerous times by now.
 
#55
#55
Being signed as a free agent is most definitely NOT being "picked". However, I believe that Riggs, even being the perennial underachiever that he is, has an excellent chance to make the Dolphins team. The Dolphins backup running backs are a pitiful lot. Riggs would provide them with a running back with some size. I also believe that while Saban is hopeful that things will eventually work out with Ricky Williams, he is too smart to rely on it.
 
#56
#56
(milohimself @ May 5 said:
The only conference vs. conference records I truly count as legit are from bowl games, because it does a decent job of ensuring an even matchup every time. Problem is Pac-10 and SEC have no bowl tie-ins in the same bowl game. If I thought otherwise I would have busted this stat out numerous times by now.
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Even the bowl games can be a little misleading. The Peach Bowl, for example, takes (I think) the 4th best team from the SEC against the 2nd or 3rd best of the ACC. So, these bowls aren't always good matchups, if you truly believe that most conferences are of equal strength. You have to remember the matchups. Just because the 2nd best team in one conference is better than the 3rd best of another conference, doesn't mean you can declare one conference superior.
 
#57
#57
While I agree that the SEC may not be the center of the football universe as "crazy sec fan" would have you believe, as Jake said so eloquently, it does have 6 legitimate NC contenders at any given time. UT, AU, LSU, Fla, GA and (though it hurts to say this) Bama. There is no other conference with 6 teams that have the potential to win NCs.

Riggs will stick in Miami if his attitude is right.
 
#58
#58
I don't believe Alabama does, and I think LSU lost that threat with Saban. I also think Meyer has a lot longer to go to national championship contention than you might think.

Fulmer can get back in the hunt if he fixes up the offense and gets consistent play out of the squad which should happen with the return of Cut. Richt is just a step away, with Georgia being IMO the best team in the SEC right now. And TT over at Auburn is a decent coach and good enough recruiter to bring home a crystal football. I think these are the three legit national title threats in the SEC.

I got the ACC with 2 in Miami and Florida State, Virgina Tech is a possibility too. I got the Big Ten also with 2 in Ohio State and Michigan, but Penn State shows a real possibility of stepping back into the limelight. I got the Big XII with two and only two in Texas and Oklahoma, Pac-10 with 1 in USC though Cal and UCLA could be part of the discussion in the next 2-3 years. And then of course the Big East with a Big Squadoosh.
 
#59
#59
Back to the subject of the thread.

Rumor is Riggs didn't workout for the NFL scouts and showed up an hour late for his interviews with them. It wasn't a surprise then that he went undrafted. My impression is, unless he has stellar workouts with the dolphins he will struggle to make the team.
 
#60
#60
I agree, and a heck of an attitude reversal. So much so that if Coach Saban asks Riggs to run at FB leading Ronnie Brown thru holes all he'll get in reply would be ''yes sir''.
 
#61
#61
(milohimself @ May 5 said:
The only conference vs. conference records I truly count as legit are from bowl games, because it does a decent job of ensuring an even matchup every time. Problem is Pac-10 and SEC have no bowl tie-ins in the same bowl game. If I thought otherwise I would have busted this stat out numerous times by now.
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The Pac 10 Bowl Tie ins aren't as impressive as the SEC.

And head to head, the SEC is 62-39-7 against the Pac 10, dominating mostly in the 1960's, 70's and 80's. The Pac 10 and SEC only played 5 games in the 90's (4-1 in favor of the SEC) but have picked it up this decade and #1 Auburn and #3 Bama have lost to the Pac 10, Miss State has twice, Auburn twice, Bama twice, and Arkansas once.

As for Bowls, the SEC is 12-8-3 vs the Pac 10.

Other interesting facts:

Pac 10 teams have winning records vs only 3 of the 12 SEC schools, against Vanderbilt, Miss State and Arkansas.

There's only 2 Pac 10 schools, USC and Stanford, that the SEC schools don't have a winning record against

 
#62
#62
Most of the games you're speaking about are ancient. The two conferences hardly play eachother anymore, hardly a large enough sample to come to any sort of conclusion in a conference vs. conference argument.
 
#63
#63
(milohimself @ May 1 said:
As far as the Pac-10 goes, there are teams that are not good but not THAT bad. Even last year when Stanford lost to UC-Davis, they came within || that close of beating Notre Dame, a BCS bowl team. That's one reason I love Pac-10 football, probably the most parity of the BCS conferences.

And yeah, the Big Ten has Indiana which sucks every year. Michigan State is usually so-so, and one of the two between Illinois and Northwestern will be so-so from year to year. Not the same number of crappy teams in the SEC.

In the Big XII, Baylor is the only team that really is like that. Iowa State, even, is so-so. The Big XII is basically a bunch of mediocre to decent teams, then Oklahoma and Texas.

In the ACC you've got Duke who probably is the overall worst team in the BCS conferences. But even UNC isn't terrible, they've taken down some big names over the last few years. Virginia? They're not too shabby. Good parity in the ACC.

In the Big East... You've got plenty of parity there, but it's because all the teams there suck except West Virginia and Louisville who are just pretty good at best.

This isn't a testament to the SEC's overall strength, I'm just saying that between Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss State, Arkansas and South Carolina that the bottom of the SEC is generally the worst of the BCS conferences, and thusly the SEC has the least parity.

I beleive that arkansas beat texas a couple years ago and then ended up with a 5 and 6 record and texas went on to a bcs bowl. I guess what I am saying is that a crappy sec team can beat on any given day a superior acc, big ten, big twelve or whoever else. jmo.
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#64
#64
Same holds true for any conference... Last season here in the Pac-10 you had Stanford losing to D-II UC-Davis then going on to give Notre Dame one hell of an outing. You had Vandy beating us, UNC reaching up in the ACC every now and then...

Those are freak games that happen at about the same rate in all the major conferences.
 
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