RIP Twitter

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lawgator1 said:
I'm saying the controversy only has legs because of Trump's use of it. But in fairness, that extends to some of his prominent supporters, too, certainly.

I actually tend to agree with the right that the restriction of certain statements is unhealthy. Now, I don't think that its akin to a every "free speech" issue out there because its a private entity, not government, so the analysis is a bit different. I'd rather Trump (or a representative) be able to say whatever he wants about the election results and let people respond to that.

The solution to bad speech is more good speech.
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You have a weird way of getting around to making a good point lol
 
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WBO said:
One of the largest current shareholders, a Saudi prince, has said he's not selling to Musk at any price. Seems they are po'd over his prior announcement that they would fund his taking Tesla private, which didn't happen. It may also mean he's not going to able to access Arab money.

Plus he may be worth billions but it doesn't mean he has $41 billion in cash. He's going to have to find a financing source, even if it's loans against current assets. The big banks rarely finance the entire amount on these types of transactions. They take a first over all the assets and then only loan to a lesser percentage of the collateral value, usually around 50-60%. and it will usually be two or more banks. The rest is financed by what are typically called "mezzanine lenders." That means hedge funds and venture capitalists. The terms on those loans are oppressive.

Also, he can't borrow against the assets of Tesla, just his stock in Tesla. Banks are wary of that.

While you never know, I think he's not going to pull it off. Maybe Putin can loan him the cash.
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Lol
 
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GiggerVol said:
Shouldn't be. Him buying it is a good thing. Now if he or someone like him would just buy Facebook then maybe social media will be better .
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Let's wait and see if he actually makes Twitter better. Fixing speech issues will make Twitter more fair but it's fairly likely that it becomes a worse product.

I would say by and large that users are the problem with Twitter and Facebook. I just laugh and keep scrolling when I see erroneous fact check posts. People being assholes is what I can't abide. I have almost completely stopped posting or commenting on anything political because if I do, all of a sudden i'll have my dumbass college friend trading jabs with my crazy old Aunt.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Let's wait and see if he actually makes Twitter better. Fixing speech issues will make Twitter more fair but it's fairly likely that it becomes a worse product.

I would say by and large that users are the problem with Twitter and Facebook.
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And Bots
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How about a YouTube video? Are you going to argue with this?!?!

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Snip it’s from your s*** source doesn’t tell his whole story. He’s compared advances that we’ve seen in gaming to what we have now in VR. If advances continue like they have them at some point VR will probably be indistinguishable from actual reality. Not sure what your argument is after that because that would probably be a utopia for the weak, sniffly, safe space needing libs like yourself.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It would be a shame to see Twitter overrun by conspiracy theorists like Reddit was in 2018 by the Q Anon nuts. Twitter was a better platform than that for a long time. I don't see how it's avoidable now. It's pretty clear that it's not going to be moderated anymore and will become a free-for-all.
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I know I'm behind here but Twitter was no different with their own conspiracies. It was just on the left.
 
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0nelilreb said:
If you don’t have any problem with private companies NOT ALLOWING something then you shouldn’t have any problems with private companies ALLOWING something . It not a one way street correct ?
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I don't have a problem with them allowing something. I have a problem with them allowing everything and anything.
I don't think they should be allowed to make public all of Onelilreb's financial data and personal information.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't have a problem with them allowing something. I have a problem with them allowing everything and anything.
I don't think they should be allowed to make public all of Onelilreb's financial data and personal information.
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Nope .. no one way streets . You need to actually read those TOS and not auto click them , just so you can hurry up and get to all the good juicy gossip on their platform .
 
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0nelilreb said:
Nope .. no one way streets . You need to actually read those TOS and not auto click them , just so you can hurry up and get to all the good juicy gossip on their platform .
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I have no idea what you are saying or what point you are attempting to make.
 
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luthervol said:
I have no idea what you are saying or what point you are attempting to make.
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If you agree a private company has the right to disallow then you have to give them the right right to allow . It’s very simple , we shouldn’t complicate the process .
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL. No, they are not of the same ilk at all. This will sound like snobbery but here goes .... the Q Anon crowd buys their clothes at Target and Walmart. The woke crowd shops at Sak's Fifth Avenue and Nordstrom.

You know it's true,,, In the words of Peter Strzok, in a text to his mistress Lisa Page :

"I was in Walmart last night ... You could smell the Trump voters." LOL.
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You think the people that screech about student loan forgiveness shops at Nordstrom and Saks?

Let's assume they do for a moment. You consider those people higher than the ones that shop at target?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
The acquisition is not going to take place until the end of the year. It will still be the cesspit it has always been.
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I don't Twitter. I've seen many people say how bad the tweeters are. Aren't users able to customize who they follow and the content they want to see? If that is true, can't users cull out the cesspit posters or content?
 
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volinbham said:
Same for electric cars, private space travel...

I'm betting on the jockey; not the people who see this as just a "fix a few things" approach.

I recall when the iPad was announced. It was panned by many of the experts - no one needs something between a phone and a laptop. They didn't see the vision of tablets. Maybe Musk doesn't have a vision for Twitter but that seems unlikely given he put up so much of his fortune for it. Maybe his vision won't work. That's more likely but the track record is strong. Just seems the criticisms are grounded in Twitter now vs what Twitter could be. As I said earlier - Dorsey seems to recognize there is untapped potential.
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I get what you are saying, but Tesla and Space X are completely in his control. Social Media is really defined by the users. Allowing more people to be assholes on line is a different animal.

Frankly I don’t really care. I ignore twitter unless some persons tweet is put in a news article I read. I don’t see that changing much.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah .... I was despondent about losing Twitter, but then I took stock and moved on to something important, like Tennessee's 2023 recruiting class... and we landed Sylvester Smith at 3:30. I feel great now.

(The broader point being ... you guys have a tendency to overstate how 'triggered' liberals truly become with crap like this.)
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Unfortunately it's the fun of watching the 2% at each extreme get triggered. GBO!
 
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McDad said:
I don't Twitter. I've seen many people say how bad the tweeters are. Aren't users able to customize who they follow and the content they want to see? If that is true, can't users cull out the cesspit posters or content?
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Yep. I've blocked folks that are blatantly homophobic.

I'm not a good measure for bird app honestly. I barely use it, and I honestly do not care what is goin on over there. I'll lurk, like I do on this forum mostly, and go from there.
 
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volinbham said:
Same for electric cars, private space travel...

I'm betting on the jockey; not the people who see this as just a "fix a few things" approach.

I recall when the iPad was announced. It was panned by many of the experts - no one needs something between a phone and a laptop. They didn't see the vision of tablets. Maybe Musk doesn't have a vision for Twitter but that seems unlikely given he put up so much of his fortune for it. Maybe his vision won't work. That's more likely but the track record is strong. Just seems the criticisms are grounded in Twitter now vs what Twitter could be. As I said earlier - Dorsey seems to recognize there is untapped potential.
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Or why would be want a less secure larger iPhone over a Blackberry?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Yes, if you want to limit the people you follow and not read replies, etc.
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zeppelin128 said:
Yep. I've blocked folks that are blatantly homophobic.

I'm not a good measure for bird app honestly. I barely use it, and I honestly do not care what is goin on over there. I'll lurk, like I do on this forum mostly, and go from there.
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So if it is a cesspool of degenerates, you are seeing the cesspool you want to see? And you have ability to get out of the pool, dry off, and find better content.

Doesn't that also mean (for those bemoaning what Twitter will become under Musk) that devolving into unmoderated content, or 4 chan lite, is a choice by the user? I can selectively avoid the content I do not like. If that's true, the what the hell is the big deal beyond some libertarian-ish type person owning a platform which is predominately a liberal enclave of echos?
 
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