Rivals Hates Us

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TNHopeful505

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As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
 
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If you can’t figure out by now that recruiting is a guessing game, I don’t know what to tell you.

And, yes, I would put a legit scholarship offer by Bama as a better measure of how good the player is than some nameless Mel Kiper working for 247, rivals, espn, or any other service.

Hell, if Bama sent them a letter, it would make me feel better about the player’s potential
 
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Let me just say this, schools like Bama and Clemson get bumps a lot for their players. Generally BC they have a history of being better at evaluation and development. Tennessee has a history of pissing away talent over the last decade. I think this will turn around with Pruitt though.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
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You have some pretty good evidence
 
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DaddyChad said:
Let me just say this, schools like Bama and Clemson get bumps a lot for their players. Generally BC they have a history of being better at evaluation and development. Tennessee has a history of pissing away talent over the last decade. I think this will turn around with Pruitt though.
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That's exactly what it is. Recruiting services use swag theory until someone who actually knows what they're looking at offers a scholly , then they "re-evaluate" .
 
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chad954ut said:
It happens every year. 247sports is better anyway.
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Why not just view them as "for entertainment purposes only". The people that write for these sites have no more qualification than your average volnation poster. Would you allow John Adams to choose a football team? I know he doesn't write for the recruitment services, but he does have a comparable expertise.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
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Who cares what their ratings are as long as they are ptp's.
 
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Recruiting services have to sell subscriptions and ads. They need click bait and they will do the rankings that they believe will make them the most $s. Period. End of discussion.
 
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I imagine that many of the unsigned players received bumps too. Helps sell subs between now and NSD to see where these new “higher ranked” players are going.
 
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99gator said:
If you can’t figure out by now that recruiting is a guessing game, I don’t know what to tell you.

And, yes, I would put a legit scholarship offer by Bama as a better measure of how good the player is than some nameless Mel Kiper working for 247, rivals, espn, or any other service.

Hell, if Bama sent them a letter, it would make me feel better about the player’s potential
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Nobody asked.
 
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When we start winning, the commentator will make up excuses as to how we won.
Other team had injuries, refs helped us, etc
It is painful for them to admit it, once we start winning again
Nothing new to us Vol fans
 
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Stars are things schmucks worry about. Are they a different player because they dropped? No, they are in a business to make revenue...leaving things the same does not create interest wnd thus no revenue. If an sec coach recruited them, they’re good.
 
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Rudy123 said:
When we start winning, the commentator will make up excuses as to how we won.
Other team had injuries, refs helped us, etc
It is painful for them to admit it, once we start winning again
Nothing new to us Vol fans
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This everyone hates us stuff his such crap. We have had buttloads of unwarranted hype for several games the last 10 years.....and we lay an egg almost every time.
 
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Nothing new that Bama gets love from these places. They could offer the worst kid in the class and they’d make him a 4* just because of Bama signing him.
So of course if a kid chooses us, or another non-top 5 team then they must not be any good. Especially if they choose to not go to Bama when Bama wanted them
 
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JFBanicki said:
Nothing new that Bama gets love from these places. They could offer the worst kid in the class and they’d make him a 4* just because of Bama signing him.
So of course if a kid chooses us, or another non-top 5 team then they must not be any good. Especially if they choose to not go to Bama when Bama wanted them
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I knew when Sanders and Neal committed to Bama, they would get a bump up.
 
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