Rivals Hates Us

#29
#29
What evidence exists that indicates 247 or any other service will not also drop the rankings of the TN recruits? Maybe all the services will follow suit by the team Signing Day arrives.
 
#32
#32
TNHopeful505 said:
As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
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Maybe Ala is able to judge talent better than everyone else in the nation, thus better by 20-30 pts. than we are.
 
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#35
#35
Pepe said:
Why not just view them as "for entertainment purposes only". The people that write for these sites have no more qualification than your average volnation poster. Would you allow John Adams to choose a football team? I know he doesn't write for the recruitment services, but he does have a comparable expertise.
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Volnation posters can be qualified huh? Ok, I’ll solve the problem right.
All of our players are #1 in the nation. There #fixed the problem.👍💯🤫
 
#36
#36
Orange defense said:
Volnation posters can be qualified huh? Ok, I’ll solve the problem right.
All of our players are #1 in the nation. There #fixed the problem.👍💯🤫
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Present company excepted, I did say average and you have proven yourself to be far below average
 
#37
#37
I know it is basketball, but look up the stars that were for Schofield and Williams. Hard work and a good coach can do well. If Pruitt is as good as we hope we will see real progress in a couple of years. If your patience has run out, ( I understand after the decade we have witnessed), you may need to seek another team. Go Vols!
 
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#38
#38
orangemadam said:
Maybe Ala is able to judge talent better than everyone else in the nation, thus better by 20-30 pts. than we are.
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There’s no maybe to it imho. They judge it better for the systems they’re running and then they go get the best players they’ve identified. Additionally, Saban has a great culture and the ability to utilize and maximize all those things. We all know this, it’s why they win at the level they do.
 
#39
#39
TNHopeful505 said:
As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
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Who cares?? Not a single game was ever won or lost because of their rankings, or a players career outcome effected by it.
 
#41
#41
KBVol said:
There’s no maybe to it imho. They judge it better for the systems they’re running and then they go get the best players they’ve identified. Additionally, Saban has a great culture and the ability to utilize and maximize all those things. We all know this, it’s why they win at the level they do.
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Just so happens that the talent they judge are usually top ranked players.
 
#44
#44
TNHopeful505 said:
As of today:

Quavaris Crouch - Down 21 spots to #30
Darnell Wright - Down 2 spots to #6 (I know, not ours yet)
Wanya Morris - Down 16 spots to #32
Eric Gray - No change, still at #233
Jaylen McCullough - Down 68 spots to #215

The ONLY bright spot was that they moved Ramel Keyton up 28 spots to #159.

Our players went down an average of 21.4 spots, 26.25 spots if you don't count Wright. Even factoring in Keyton, it's still an average drop of 15.4 spots for our 5 commits.

Compare to Alabama:
Trey Sanders - Up 4 spots to #2
Evan Neal - Up 18 spots to #11
Antonio Alfano - Up 75 spots to #22
Shane Lee - No change, #46
Khris Bogle - Down 1 to #50
Pierce Quick - Down 5 to #62
Amari Kight - Down 5 to #65
Demarcco Hellams - Up 24 to #79
Taulia Tagovailoa - Up 89 spots to #112
Christian Williams - Down 22 spots to #117
Byron Young - No change at #127
Jordan Battle - Up 55 spots to #134
Justin Eboigbe - Down 4 spots to #161
Marcus Banks - No change at #179
Brandon Turnage - Up 50 spots to #180
John Metchie - Up 6 spots to #185
Kevin Harris - Down 17 spots to #204
King Mwikuta - Down 105 to #207
Jahleel Billingsley - Down 9 spots to #220
Braylen Ingraham - No change at #241

If you're doing the math, that's an average jump of 40 spots, and an average fall of 21 spots (mostly due to Mwikuta being down 105)
The movement of the portion of the class in the 250 was approximately upwards 321 spots, and downwards only 168, and that's with 20 players.

Compare that to ours, who with only 5 players (not counting Wright), we dropped 105 spots, and gained only 28. With that rate, with 20 players, we'd have dropped 420 spots, and only risen about 112.

I realize it's not all comparable, but you CANNOT tell me that all of a sudden out of nowhere, someone decided "Hey, Taulia, the brother of the best QB Alabama has had in the Saban era, all of a sudden got SO good that we should move him up 89 spots!"

I just think it is incredibly obvious that Rivals has an agenda to promote Bama, and apparently their rankings revolve around who commits/signs with Bama. It is absolutely sickening. I know and believe that Saban is a good evaluator of talent. But not THAT good.

Ugh. Buck Fama. Hope Saban goes to the NFL one more time, and Kirby goes with him. Go Clemson.

And more importantly and above all else, Go Vols.
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Rivals SUCKS!!! Aight!
 
#45
#45
Winning solves everything and I mean everything, if Tennessee ever starts winning again, the ratings and accolades will surely follow, but the big question is still if...
 
#47
#47
Boca Vol said:
Exactly. Who cares if recruiting services show bias? Do they play in the games?

It's like people whining about announcers. They have no impact on the outcome of the game.
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Lol, who cares? Who cares about anything?
 
#50
#50
DaddyChad said:
Let me just say this, schools like Bama and Clemson get bumps a lot for their players. Generally BC they have a history of being better at evaluation and development. Tennessee has a history of pissing away talent over the last decade. I think this will turn around with Pruitt though.
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If I'm not mistaking, they rank the players based on how they project to the college level. There is no way there's that much movement within the last month of recruiting before NSD. Also, where a player commits and signs has nothing to do with the talent they have coming out of high school! Rivals has been a joke for a couple few years now. It's all about 24/7 and their composite ranking, now.
 
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