Rodger Hitler Godell is a moron/Vicious hits (merged)

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mason3132

mason3132

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He has hurt this game since he took over and will continue until it isnt fun to watch anymore. Players being suspended after no charges were filled. Players have to talk to him because that sent a picture of their packages to chicks. Violent hits are no longer allowed even though its not in the rule book come on dude lighten the ,,,, up.This is Football not badmitton.
 
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He is on a serious power trip i just dont understand why the Players Unioin is not stepping in. I guess we dont have to worry anyway as Ray Ray says you want us to play 2 more game in regular season go out of the country and play, but not allow us to play the game the way we were taught is why we will have a strike next year. A strike will kill the stranglehold they have over other sports.
 
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The only thing he has proposed or done that I have hated the idea of is the 2 more regular season games. JMO
 
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I understand its your JYO but tell me how you would react to the Daunte Robinson hit which is legal by NFL rule book and their standards but they change it on the fly because of momentum and fine the guy 50k. Also because Brett sent a photo why is that any of his bussiness. You cant change rules and fine people on the fly do that to someone in regular work world and see what happens to you. If i lost 2 paychecks for following the rules at my job i would be part owner in Ceva Logistics.
 
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His personal conduct penalty bothers me because it's so flawed. No way a guy should get suspended for a year after never being convicted of anything (pacman), while tank johnson gets 8 games after going to jail. It seems like he suspends players just for the hell of it like Big Ben and possibly Favre.
 
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NFL Videos: Playbook: Legal hits?

Check out this video cat and tell me whats wrong with this hit by Daunte.Nfl says you also have to controll if you move up when you hit how the hell you do that. Great point in here is also lineman go helmet to helmet every play is that illegal.
 
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mason3132 said:
NFL Videos: Playbook: Legal hits?

Check out this video cat and tell me whats wrong with this hit by Daunte.Nfl says you also have to controll if you move up when you hit how the hell you do that. Great point in here is also lineman go helmet to helmet every play is that illegal.
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Initially when I saw the hit, it looked as though Daunta left his feet to make the hit. At the time it looked illegal, doesnt look as though after watching it slow mo. The NFL is making a preemtive move with the punishment before players start to get killed. I love big hits as much as the next guy, but some of them with the intent to cause head injuries need to go imo. The "denfensless" rule needs to be redefined and made clearer because I have certainly seen that called in instances where it was just a great hit and the reciever wasnt "defenseless"
 
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I have no problem with suspending players for personal conduct. It's a privilege, not a right to play 16 games a year on national television while making millions of dollars.

If you're involved with guns, drugs, involved in shootings, dealing etc. you deserve what you get. Some people can't even find jobs and others are working 50 hours weeks for 20,000 a year in some factory.

I don't feel bad for people like Pacman Jones who decide to take 50,000(Don't remember exact amount) to a club. That's without the claim that it was stolen and that a shootout occurred. He put himself in a stupid situation and something stupid happened. If he walked away with nothing happening, he wouldn't have been punished. Unfortunately, something did happen and it could have been prevented.
 
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Are you just trying to find something to complain about?

Goodell has successfully managed the NFL into becoming one of the worlds biggest brand names and easily the biggest deal in American sports.

As for personal conduct policy and those TV timeouts, you can place those ones squarely on ESPN. In fact, I don't even know how the TV timeout gig has anything to do with Goodell. The producers approached the coaches. The commish was never brought into it. I have no Earthly idea what it is doing in a Roger Goodell thread. And for the personal conduct policy, it clearly is based on the NFL's image. You may disagree with it, but the millions upon millions of people looking for family entertainment value that constitute that fringe viewership that keeps the NFL growing, they like it.

This helmet to helmet thing is a big deal. Lots of players are out with head and neck injuries right now. Lots of guys already leave the league with serious issues in their knees, ankles, shoulders, etc. but this is effecting the long term mental wellness of a lot of guys. Even after just one severe enough concussion, you can lack the ability to operate the same way on a day to day basis. It gets worse -- do I need to post the link of the Rutgers kid who just got paralyzed from the neck down? Guys have been getting bigger, faster and stronger on a near-exponential rate since the days of true smash-mouth football. Put today's NFL bodies in the games of the 60's, 70's and 80's and I would guarantee players would be getting killed. The improvement in safety equipment has also made today's player more willing to use his body as a weapon on the field.

You very clearly seem to be behind the players on all the issues; as am I, they are the ones who the people come to see play every Sunday. But you simply can't have it both ways on the 18 game issue and the hitting rule (which, as explained numerous times on ESPN, has been in place for some time now). Players ask the NFL to not add two games to the schedule for the sake of their bodies; the hitting policy is there to accomplish just that as well.

Some of us are going to miss the NFL of the days of old, but that game as we know it is dead, and rightfully so.
 
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As for bad decisions he's made/trying to make...

Yes, I, like most NFL fans, are against the 18 game regular season. Not only will it be harder on the players and result in that much more injury, but there are already teams nearly every season who rest their starters in the last week or two (maybe more) once their spot in the playoffs is locked up. 18 games is just going to allow that much more time for teams to throw games.
 
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milohimself said:
Are you just trying to find something to complain about?

Goodell has successfully managed the NFL into becoming one of the worlds biggest brand names and easily the biggest deal in American sports.

As for personal conduct policy and those TV timeouts, you can place those ones squarely on ESPN. In fact, I don't even know how the TV timeout gig has anything to do with Goodell. The producers approached the coaches. The commish was never brought into it. I have no Earthly idea what it is doing in a Roger Goodell thread. And for the personal conduct policy, it clearly is based on the NFL's image. You may disagree with it, but the millions upon millions of people looking for family entertainment value that constitute that fringe viewership that keeps the NFL growing, they like it.

This helmet to helmet thing is a big deal. Lots of players are out with head and neck injuries right now. Lots of guys already leave the league with serious issues in their knees, ankles, shoulders, etc. but this is effecting the long term mental wellness of a lot of guys. Even after just one severe enough concussion, you can lack the ability to operate the same way on a day to day basis. It gets worse -- do I need to post the link of the Rutgers kid who just got paralyzed from the neck down? Guys have been getting bigger, faster and stronger on a near-exponential rate since the days of true smash-mouth football. Put today's NFL bodies in the games of the 60's, 70's and 80's and I would guarantee players would be getting killed. The improvement in safety equipment has also made today's player more willing to use his body as a weapon on the field.

You very clearly seem to be behind the players on all the issues; as am I, they are the ones who the people come to see play every Sunday. But you simply can't have it both ways on the 18 game issue and the hitting rule (which, as explained numerous times on ESPN, has been in place for some time now). Players ask the NFL to not add two games to the schedule for the sake of their bodies; the hitting policy is there to accomplish just that as well.

Some of us are going to miss the NFL of the days of old, but that game as we know it is dead, and rightfully so.
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Exactly. It goes both ways too. It's not just bigger blows being dished out. Those offensive players are running into those hits at a higher rate of speed themselves.

Those helmet shots were brutal back in the day and dangerous enough as is. Now, it just can't be allowed. That Bills player was paralyzed also. Everrett I believe?

Losing out on big hits suck but it sucks more when someone ends up paralyzed or brain damaged. Who knows how many players will have alzheimers later because of the blows they took.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
Exactly. It goes both ways too. It's not just bigger blows being dished out. Those offensive players are running into those hits at a higher rate of speed themselves.

Those helmet shots were brutal back in the day and dangerous enough as is. Now, it just can't be allowed. That Bills player was paralyzed also. Everrett I believe?

Losing out on big hits suck but it sucks more when someone ends up paralyzed or brain damaged. Who knows how many players will have alzheimers later because of the blows they took.
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This is more or less how I feel about the issue, and I don't agree with all the pissing and moaning, I don't feel that the game will be changed much at all. It will hopefully get guys to keep their heads up rather than leading with the crown of the helmet.
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Last time I checked playing in the NFL was voluntary. Don't want to take the big hit, don't play. Plus the NFL isn't so concerned about these hits when they sell videos and photos of them, essentially cashing in on those "dangerous" plays.

How about fining the QB's who overthrow their receivers and set them up to get crushed? There's more of these hits on receivers because for 20 years the NFL has changed the rules to promote more passing. More passing means more hits on receivers and QB's.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Last time I checked playing in the NFL was voluntary. Don't want to take the big hit, don't play. Plus the NFL isn't so concerned about these hits when they sell videos and photos of them, essentially cashing in on those "dangerous" plays.

How about fining the QB's who overthrow their receivers and set them up to get crushed? There's more of these hits on receivers because for 20 years the NFL has changed the rules to promote more passing. More passing means more hits on receivers and QB's.
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It wasn't the players decision and obviously the NFL is concerned or they wouldn't have changed the rules.
 
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Paul Tagliabue is the man responsible for the NFL success not Goodell. I'm fine with making a big deal out of helmet to helmet hits and I did see a problem in Merriweather's hit Sunday. Harrison's hit on Cribbs was helmet to helmet but to me it didn't look intentional. He went for the hit and Cribbs got knocked towards him. The second hit (and I'm not about to screw his last name up) was a hard hit, but it's freaking football. You're gonna get hit when you go across the middle. That happens. The biggest issue is the Robinson hit. He didn't do anything wrong except square Jackson up and hit him. The only reason it pissed me off was because Jackson is on my fantasy team. I'm all for leading with the head hits being fined and/or suspended. I'd eject the player out of the game immediately, take his pay away from that game and then suspend for at least one more game. But by taking away all tough hits you're just pussyfying the game.

If Brett Favre is found guilty of sexual harassment he should be suspended, and I'd almost say for the rest of the season. The NFL still has an image to uphold and questionable conduct and illegal activity should not be tolerated. Just because they're athletes doesn't mean they'd deserve special treatment with how they handle their off the field jobs.
 
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The_Orange_Pearl said:
It wasn't the players decision and obviously the NFL is concerned or they wouldn't have changed the rules.
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Players don't get to decide to play in the NFL? You're suggesting that they're forced to play professional football?

But you can buy videos and photos of these dangerous hits from the NFL. Odd way to show concern.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
Players don't get to decide to play in the NFL? You're suggesting that they're forced to play professional football?
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WTF? Where was this? The league taking measures to help prevent brain and spinal injuries is a good step forward, not a reason to go all bumpkin on people who disagree with you.
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The Skins had an "alumni reunion" this week and the old players walked out to be recognized. It was amazing to see how much trouble many of them had walking and kinda sad. These players weren't that old but their bodies had taken such a beating from football. I know it's not completely the same but still stuck out to me. Keeping these guys safer isn't a bad thing
 
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JTrainDavis said:
This is more or less how I feel about the issue, and I don't agree with all the pissing and moaning, I don't feel that the game will be changed much at all. It will hopefully get guys to keep their heads up rather than leading with the crown of the helmet.
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Teddy Bruschi had some good comments about it on Sportscenter... The tackles the league is worried about are basically ones where the defensive player turns his body into a projectile, and rarely are the arms being used here. Since you're losing directional control of your body, 1. aim for the chest instead of under the chin and 2. turn your shoulder into it instead of staying straight and tucking your head.
 
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