Roe vs Wade Overturned

[utvolpj]

If you’re making $10hr you should be living at home with momma and daddy and going to HS.

That was his number I used. The wage needed to afford to live is much higher. It's unsustainable unless people just accept prices will go much higher for everything. Adjustable housing is a real problem around the country given where people are located and our shoddy transportation infrastructure

 

[utvolpj]

Where should they live? They should revisit their job status before visiting places to live. Or live in those areas where you can afford even if it’s not in the part of town you want.

So who does their jobs? If you're paying attention right now there is a shortage. You can't live an hour away from a job paying $15/hr

 

[Majors]

So many people think they're entitled to live in whatever part of town they want in a nice apartment.

Scarcity exists. Demand exists. This is basic effing economics.

Supply and demand 101.

I shall supply you XYZ place to live, based on location/schools/crime/amenities I will demand this rent.

 

[Vol8188]

There is nothing at that price point. Where should they live?

With others. Living alone is a privilege not a right

 

[Majors]

So who does their jobs? If you're paying attention right now there is a shortage. You can't live an hour away from a job paying $15/hr

Shortage or doing more with less? Companies can have hiring signs up and not do anything as long as it’s business as usual with what they have.

 

[Majors]

With others. Living alone is a privilege not a right

Game changer answer!

 

[utvolpj]

With others. Living alone is a privilege not a right

I've never said it was a right but rather it shouldn't be impossible. Cities and towns are doing everything they can to make it so. They want the labor but not the residents. We see how that's working out for them

 

[whodeycin85]

Goes back to the saying if you don’t like the result, change it. If you’re making $10 and hour, rent what you can afford. If you want a 4 bedroom in the nicer part of town, don’t be upset with paying 2K in rent. Be upset you’re still making $10 and hour. Change the job not requesting the rent be lowered.

I agree whole heartedly with that...but when a 2 bed under 800 square feet is costing 1200. In a poor area. That'd not affordable

 

[Majors]

So who does their jobs? If you're paying attention right now there is a shortage. You can't live an hour away from a job paying $15/hr

Sure you can. It’s called sacrifice or find a place closer that may be more suitable to the $15. The employer gives you a job and pay, it’s not their job to provide a nice place in the job agreement.

 

[Vol8188]

I've never said it was a right but rather it shouldn't be impossible. Cities and towns are doing everything they can to make it so. They want the labor but not the residents. We are how that's working out for them

It’s not impossible. I assume 90% of VN is lonely men

 

[utvolpj]

Shortage or doing more with less? Companies can have hiring signs up and not do anything as long as it’s business as usual with what they have.

Are you not paying attention to what's going on? Many businesses are struggling. I see almost as many signs asking for patience given the labor market as I do help wanted. Goods are not moving thru the supply chain on time and there are fewer trucks to move it once it's ready. I know most are a few days to weeks behind.

 

[utvolpj]

Sure you can. It’s called sacrifice or find a place closer that may be more suitable to the $15. The employer gives you a job and pay, it’s not their job to provide a nice place in the job agreement.

Again, have you even looked at prices lately? They've tried your idea and look how well it's working.

 

[Majors]

I agree whole heartedly with that...but when a 2 bed under 800 square feet is costing 1200. In a poor area. That'd not affordable

Find other areas to cut cost or look for promotions or second job.

 

[utvolpj]

It’s not impossible. I assume 90% of VN is lonely men

But likely on a fixed income given their screeches when SS is mentioned

 

[Majors]

Are you not paying attention to what's going on? Many businesses are struggling. I see almost as many signs asking for patience given the labor market as I do help wanted. Goods are not moving thru the supply chain on time and there are fewer trucks to move it once it's ready. I know most are a few days to weeks behind.

Sure. Stated above that restaurants have open tables and waits because they can’t hire/afford the wage increase. Do more with less. I’ve seen it in my industry for years working with hospitals, one employee moved in/retires etc. they filter the workload across those remaining. Seems like those seeking employment should seek a trade like trucking to help with supply chain.

 

[OHvol40]

Find other areas to cut cost or look for promotions or second job.

Ah yes, the ole pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps line. A bit ironic that it has showed up in this thread, and here is why:

 

[whodeycin85]

Find other areas to cut cost or look for promotions or second job.

It's not about what I can pay it's about what they are charging for....there are lemon laws...to not take advantage of people when buying cars....

 

[Vol8188]

But likely on a fixed income given their screeches when SS is mentioned

Apparently they’re making it work, so not impossible

 

[McDad]

Then who works in the unaffordable places?

Affordable housing is a major issue and only getting worse. I know our city is working to address it but it's not easy

It could be easier. As a LL I would provide low income housing for:
- Exemption on property taxes
- exemption on cap gains tax for the property
- dollar for dollar credit against rental income on my taxes.
- a modest monthly stipend from the municipality.
- access to zero interest lending for Reno, expansion, and new development.

 

[Vol8188]

Then who works in the unaffordable places?

Affordable housing is a major issue and only getting worse. I know our city is working to address it but it's not easy

The unaffordable places always pay more to their service industry. It’s pretty well known. That’s why so many in poorer areas will drive to work in bigger markets.

The cities “work” on these issues are more likely the problem than the solution

 

[Majors]

Again, have you even looked at prices lately? They've tried your idea and look how well it's working.

let me give you a situation in my area of work. As I said earlier I’m 100% commission and live comfortably and also have a wife who is a teacher. The last few years I’ve interviewed graduates and those non-degree to do what I do. They get a small salary to start but after a period of 9 months to a year it’s 100% commission. You either sink or swim. I walked in the break area a few weeks ago and saw a young lady struggling watching a show on her phone. Air pods always in her ear, she will cycle herself out while her friend who we hired a few months prior will be close to 85-100K this year.

 

[utvolpj]

It could be easier. As a LL I would provide low income housing for:
- Exemption on property taxes
- exemption on cap gains tax for the property
- dollar for dollar credit against rental income on my taxes.
- a modest monthly stipend from the municipality.
- access to zero interest lending for Reno, expansion, and new development.

Many are already being offered and matching finders for development. Problem is so much more can be made right now with traditional multifamily that no one needs to work on the affordable part (yet)

 

[McDad]

Many are already being offered and matching finders for development. Problem is so much more can be made right now with traditional multifamily that no one needs to work on the affordable part (yet)

Many of the stipulations I set are being offered?

 

[utvolpj]

let me give you a situation in my area of work. As I said earlier I’m 100% commission and live comfortably and also have a wife who is a teacher. The last few years I’ve interviewed graduates and those non-degree to do what I do. They get a small salary to start but after a period of 9 months to a year it’s 100% commission. You either sink or swim. I walked in the break area a few weeks ago and saw a young lady struggling watching a show on her phone. Air pods always in her ear, she will cycle herself out while her friend who we hired a few months prior will be close to 85-100K this year.

Great anecdote yet completely irrelevant to the question posed. The problem with many of the posts on here is the ignore a significant part of the population. There is and will always be a bottom, the "least of these" if you will. There are also those who don't want 2 jobs and hours of commute just to make ends meet. I considered turning down a recent job offer with 40% raise and stock for similar reasons. At a certain point life has to have more meaning

 

[utvolpj]

Many of the stipulations I set are being offered?

It's been a while since I was in the meetings but I do know many tax incentives and even matching dev funds were offered. Still not lucrative enough for most