Roe vs Wade Overturned

[ClearwaterVol]

Would you agree to ban all abortion except for rape, incest and ectopic up to 10 weeks?

I would be fine in the 15-20 week bracket with an additional exceptions for the safety of the woman and unviable fetuses.

 

[VolStrom]

Now how would you enforce it?

What if we take a DNA sample of both men and women when they register for the draft and then whenever a woman gives birth we test the childs DNA against the database. Problem solved.

 

[MG1968]

Child support coming out of father's social security payments if he's truly a POS but we also have a society problem that encourages POS father's. So might want to quit normalizing anti-masculinity.

I think it’s the other way around. It’s fine to teach our sons to be masculine. What’s not fine is teaching them to be misogynistic cretins.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Imagine you, a literal discompassionate racist, arguing in favor of abortions on the grounds that they're "compassionate" using sad examples representing a fraction of abortions.

Racist? Where in the holy hell did you come up with that?

And learn to read and stop misinterpreting straight forward arguments.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

What if we take a DNA sample of both men and women when they register for the draft and then whenever a woman gives birth we test the childs DNA against the database. Problem solved.

No chance for government misuse there.

 

[VolStrom]

No chance for government misuse there.

I know, it's as logical as California making their own insulin.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I think it’s the other way around. It’s fine to teach our sons to be masculine. What’s not fine is teaching them to be misogynistic cretins.

 

[ButchPlz]

I think it’s the other way around. It’s fine to teach our sons to be masculine. What’s not fine is teaching them to be misogynistic cretins.

Are you implying that gender exists? Disgusting pig.

 

[MG1968]

Are you implying that gender exists? Disgusting pig.

There are 2 biological genders and about a million emotional ones. 2 are science and the rest are just silly.

Not sure what to consider hermaphroditism.

 

[OHvol40]

That’s not how life works. Idk if you failed biology or something, but that’s not how any of this works

Lol

 

[OHvol40]

My son was way premature, and couldn’t have survived on his own. He spent good time in a nicu. He’s now 11. I can assure you he was very much “life”. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Good lord, you didn’t pay attention at all did you? Bet your son was much more developed than 15 weeks gestation, wasn’t he?

 

[OHvol40]

Without controlled temperature and regular feeds, many newborns won't last 24 hours.

That’s practical dependence, still. How would one fair at, say, 16 weeks gestation?

 

[OHvol40]

That's asinine. That would mean current premature babies are not considered a life. Newborns, are not considered a life.

What this tells me is that you lack experience with babies and any exposure to nicu. Your conditions for life are incoherent and unscientific.

Nope, that’s not what it means at all. Look up when a fetus can independently digest food through it’s alimentary tract, breathe air independently, regulate it’s own hormones (both endocrine and exocrine), and then get back to me.

 

[OHvol40]

Check it out, this moron is still in favor of slaughtering kids, the disabled, and many elderly.

It'S nOt LiFe UnTiL iT cAn LiVe On ItS oWn is about the stupidest take on this board.

And you’re still an emotional train wreck.

 

[RikidyBones]

Nope, that’s not what it means at all. Look up when a fetus can independently digest food through it’s alimentary tract, breathe air independently, regulate it’s own hormones (both endocrine and exocrine), and then get back to me.

The things you listed aren't achievable until birth. Are you saying a baby at 9 months isn't living because the placenta exists? Because the baby has not yet digested food?

Or are you saying if born at age x, it needs to be able to do all of that?

Do you view a turtle egg as a life?

 

[OHvol40]

The things you listed aren't achievable until birth. Are you saying a baby at 9 months isn't living because the placenta exists? Because the baby has not yet digested food?

Or are you saying if born at age x, it needs to be able to do all of that?

Do you view a turtle egg as a life?

I’m saying when a fetus is ABLE to do those things, then they are viable. That’s literally what that means.

 

[Vol8188]

Lol

Your answer is to laugh? It’s amazing that you don’t understand the word life yet claim to be a healthcare provider

 

[Vol8188]

I’m saying when a fetus is ABLE to do those things, then they are viable. That’s literally what that means.

You specifically said alive. You stated that not being able to do those things meant a fetus was not alive. Which is ignorant.

We do agree a fetus is alive, right?

 

[Jxn Vol]

I encourage y’all not to debate the morality of abortion with these folks.
The courts decision was a Constitutional decision. Not a morality decision.
The 10th amendment and Constitution won. Let’s keep it going.

 

[VolStrom]

I'll throw this out there... If a woman wants to get an abortion after a certain week of gestation, let's say 16 weeks, they have to look at it and know what they destroyed.

 

[Vol8188]

I encourage y’all not to debate the morality of abortion with these folks.
The courts decision was a Constitutional decision. Not a morality decision.
The 10th amendment and Constitution won. Let’s keep it going.

I don’t completely disagree with you. But it is important to fight outright lies like that “it’s not alive until it’s viable”.

A lot of such lies have been used as brainwashing towards abortion for decades.

 

[Jxn Vol]

I don’t completely disagree with you. But it is important to fight outright lies like that “it’s not alive until it’s viable”.

A lot of such lies have been used as brainwashing towards abortion for decades.

Completely understand this position. And I do believe that what we are seeing is abortion is not as popular as what the left believes. I know they have their polls that say otherwise. But I’ve seen data that shows the opposite. In summary I guess the good guys are winning.

 

[OHvol40]

I don’t completely disagree with you. But it is important to fight outright lies like that “it’s not alive until it’s viable”.

A lot of such lies have been used as brainwashing towards abortion for decades.

I’ve posted this before, but I think it especially applies to you:

 

[Vol8188]

I’ve posted this before, but I think it especially applies to you:
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That has 0 to do with the false claim you made earlier and have avoided addressing. “I think the other side is a bunch of hypocrites” is not a valid argument. Even hypocrites can be correct. So there’s no reason to even address it.

 

[RikidyBones]

I’m saying when a fetus is ABLE to do those things, then they are viable. That’s literally what that means.

A baby 8 months in the womb is not ABLE to do those things UNTIL it is delivered and the ONLY thing holding that ability back is the act of being delivered. So I ask you again to clarify if you mean the ability to do it if delivered or actively doing it makes a difference. Are you supporting abortion up until delivery?