Roe vs Wade Overturned

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zeppelin128 said:
Yes. What a weird place to put this question.
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Not at all since some have taxes and some don't. You acknowledge that states have the right to govern themselves yet get upset when that right is solidified by the court as outlined in the constitution. That's the exact job of the ussc. The federal govt has walked all over the states for far too long.
 
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utvolpj said:
Not at all since since have taxes and since don't. You acknowledge that states have the right to govern themselves yet get upset when that right is solidified by the court as outlined in the constitution. That's the exact job of the ussc. The federal govt has walked all over the states for far too long.
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Do y'all not believe in equal rights?
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Do y'all not believe in equal rights?
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Likely more than you do

Do you not understand the difference in constitutional rights vs states? It's how this system is constructed that anything not for the feds is left to the states. If you don't like it there's a method to change it. Just go replace the 10th with the right to get an abortion
 
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zeppelin128 said:
No I'm not . I'm talking about equal treatment under the law.
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Equal treatment from whose perspective? In the case of the baby, I'm not sure they would argue there is equal treatment in NY and CA. Equal treatment of being able to get a driver's license in GA vs FL doesn't exist. The tests are different. Same with workers compensation. Should those be federalized?
 
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utvolpj said:
Likely more than you do

Do you not understand the difference in constitutional rights vs states? It's how this system is constructed that anything not for the feds is left to the states. If you don't like it there's a method to change it. Just go replace the 10th with the right to get an abortion
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I doubt that.
 
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utvols88 said:
Equal treatment from whose perspective? In the case of the baby, I'm not sure they would argue there is equal treatment in NY and CA. Equal treatment of being able to get a driver's license in GA vs FL doesn't exist. The tests are different. Same with workers compensation. Should those be federalized?
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There is no baby. No one is advocating this.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I doubt that.
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Oh I don't since I believe in more rights than most political tribe members. I'm actually in favor of removing the govt from most of our lives which would increase freedom

You still avoided the question in how the governing document of this country is laid out. States come up with their own criminal/civil laws and mete out punishment differently based on many factors every single day. Why is this now the hill to die on?
 
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Zep...as PJ pointed out, you believe states are free to have their own income tax rates (or zero like TN) but that somehow those same state legislators elected by the voters are qualified to decide how much of your paycheck to take (before you ever get your check btw) but are somehow NOT qualified to decide whether or not they should force doctors etc to hand out free contraceptives? Or where/when/how to allow abortions? You do not see the inconsistencies in your position?

It is much easier for a person to change a state law than federal law...as intended. You can vote or even run for office yourself if you strongly desire change. These things were meant to be decided at the state level in our representative republic. That is how the framers/founders of our country intended our government (small and limited gov) to function. They greatly feared federal overreach and big government and tried to prevent it. Change, if needed, begins at home at the local and then state level. Not huge sweeping federal policies requiring massive resources , oversight, and money.

As posted above:
Why do some people believe the government should be the answer to everything? Involved in every aspect of our daily lives? It is insanity. Straight up. No coincidence that socialism and communism both involve the state controlling every aspect of life. That is the EXACT reason that it fails every single time while capitalism flourishes.

Why in the Hell would government need to be involved in contraceptives? Have you ever needed the State to buy you a condom? That is stupid on its face. Why is government involved in marriage? Marriage is a Christian institution described in the Bible thousands of years ago. Not a federal issue or construct. It is a great example of government getting involved in something it has no business with.

Government should not be involved in peoples everyday lives except to insure their safety by protecting folks persons and property from being taken or destroyed by others. All this other gov crap is just that: crap. Unnecessary and often times invasive.
 
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utvols88 said:
Heh. See that doesn't square up consistently. How about the teacher having sexual relations with a 13 year old. 13 year old says they consent to it. Still mind your own damn business?
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I've been told on this forum that's perfectly ok
 
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zeppelin128 said:
No it is not.
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The ones that are in the community and promote pedophilia are allowed to do it. I have friends that are in that community that are sickened by it but they don't speak up on it. The community has been hijacked by perverts and it's sad to see tbh. Most aren't perverts but they don't put a stop to it and that's on them.
 
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