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Nebraska woman, 19, sobs as she is hauled off to jail for 90 days after she had illegal late-term Abortion Before Burning and Burying the Fetus

A Nebraska teenager has been jailed for 90 days for having an illegal late-term abortion at home before burning and burying the remains.

Celeste Burgess, 19, pleaded guilty in May to one count of removing, concealing, or abandoning a dead body, as part of a plea deal in Madison County District Court.

Burgess' face was torn in anguish on Thursday as she was taken away in handcuffs to the cells by an officer in photos captured by The Norfolk Daily News.

Her mother Jessica Burgess helped the teen, who was then 17, abort the baby almost six months into her pregnancy - and the 42-year-old has also pleaded guilty to providing an illegal abortion, false reporting, and tampering with human remains.

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Celeste Burgess, 19, sobs as she is taken to jail on Thursday after pleading guilty to one count of removing, concealing, or abandoning the dead body, as part of a plea agreement in Madison County District Court

Nebraska woman, 19, sobs as she is hauled off to jail for 90 days after she had illegal late-term abortion before burning and burying the fetus | Daily Mail Online
 
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McDad said:
You saw your shot and took it....and went for broke.

The hedonistic genie is never going back into the bottle.
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I agree, people are too messed up now.. there’s no going back… you can just try to live your life the right way and hopefully taught your children that, and that’s basically all you can do I’m afraid
 
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Why the separate designations of rape and incest?

Is the "incest" exception only included for instances of consensual intercourse between two related minors?
 
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Orangeburst said:
severe hardship will
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100 percent correct. If there were food shortages for example, do you think that vegans would still be vegans? Do you think that those on meat only diets could still be able to get, and afford only meat? Nope! Everyone would eat what they could to survive. We have very easy lives right now. Very, very easy in comparison to how our ancestors had to survive. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would be great if there were some sort of collapse. Lots of suicides.

In the middle ages, very few could afford meat. "Bring home the bacon" was a saying that came about hundreds of years ago. You were well off if you lived in town and could afford meat. Many that could, would display it when they had it. No sewers, waste thrown into the street. No refrigeration, no electricity. We've got it made, and it makes everyone take things for granted.
 
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100 percent correct. If there were food shortages for example, do you think that vegans would still be vegans? Do you think that those on meat only diets could still be able to get, and afford only meat? Nope! Everyone would eat what they could to survive. We have very easy lives right now. Very, very easy in comparison to how our ancestors had to survive. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would be great if there were some sort of collapse. Lots of suicides.

In the middle ages, very few could afford meat. "Bring home the bacon" was a saying that came about hundreds of years ago. You were well off if you lived in town and could afford meat. Many that could, would display it when they had it. No sewers, waste thrown into the street. No refrigeration, no electricity. We've got it made, and it makes everyone take things for granted.
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Yea I would say stuff like cutting your balls off would not make the priority list either.
 
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norrislakevol said:
100 percent correct. If there were food shortages for example, do you think that vegans would still be vegans? Do you think that those on meat only diets could still be able to get, and afford only meat? Nope! Everyone would eat what they could to survive. We have very easy lives right now. Very, very easy in comparison to how our ancestors had to survive. The wailing and gnashing of teeth would be great if there were some sort of collapse. Lots of suicides.

In the middle ages, very few could afford meat. "Bring home the bacon" was a saying that came about hundreds of years ago. You were well off if you lived in town and could afford meat. Many that could, would display it when they had it. No sewers, waste thrown into the street. No refrigeration, no electricity. We've got it made, and it makes everyone take things for granted.
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So I assume the opposite is true, if there's no meat, we will all be vegans.

If you're worried about food supply, do what I've been doing, buy undeveloped rural land in Maine and Minnesota. Can get 10-20 acres tracts, with running water (streams), for $1500 an acre. If it all goes to hell in a hand basket, my descendants can farm or better yet do farm leases.

Enough fun with you guys, I need to do my annual clean-out of my emergency water supplies. It's my intention that liberals survive the zombie apocalypse.
 
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WBO said:
So I assume the opposite is true, if there's no meat, we will all be vegans.

If you're worried about food supply, do what I've been doing, buy undeveloped rural land in Maine and Minnesota. Can get 10-20 acres tracts, with running water (streams), for $1500 an acre. If it all goes to hell in a hand basket, my descendants can farm or better yet do farm leases.

Enough fun with you guys, I need to do my annual clean-out of my emergency water supplies. It's my intention that liberals survive the zombie apocalypse.
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That is a really good plan you have. Land isn't getting any cheaper. I am blessed to be sitting on 120 acres of family land here in beautiful east Tennessee. I grow crops for myself and share with others.
 
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norrislakevol said:
That is a really good plan you have. Land isn't getting any cheaper. I am blessed to be sitting on 120 acres of family land here in beautiful east Tennessee. I grow crops for myself and share with others.
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Really happy for you. I have a few acres up in the mountains on the border of the SMNP. There's one tract that has 4 acres of excellent flat land. Been thinking about putting in fruit trees. Bears would no doubt love it.

My family had a very nice farm in Cades Cove but it was taken for the park. I know where the main house was, the cornerstones are still there.
 
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WBO said:
Really happy for you. I have a few acres up in the mountains on the border of the SMNP. There's one tract that has 4 acres of excellent flat land. Been thinking about putting in fruit trees. Bears would no doubt love it.

My family had a very nice farm in Cades Cove but it was taken for the park. I know where the main house was, the cornerstones are still there.
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I have some similar experiences. There are two homesteads on Norris lake that are my relatives. My great great grandfathers house foundation can be seen during winter draw down. My great grandfathers chimney still stands in the woods up from it. Over taken by TVA in the 1930s.

If you want a native fruit tree for your land get black or royal limbertwig apple trees. There are from the southern Appalachians region. The Royal Limbertwig was discovered in Cades Cove some years back....your old family's stomping grounds. They are good apples that ripen in fall, and will keep for several months in the fridge. Check out the trees of antiquity website to get these. Horse apples were also common around these parts, and have a tart flavor. Plant several different species for good pollination. Take my advice, keep them pruned short. Never let them get higher than 10 feet tall, that way you can harvest and prune everything with just a 6 foot step ladder. No climbing.
 
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norrislakevol said:
That is a really good plan you have. Land isn't getting any cheaper. I am blessed to be sitting on 120 acres of family land here in beautiful east Tennessee. I grow crops for myself and share with others.
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I have three quarter of an acre here in Florida with about a 5 minute walk from a retention pond. I'm set up for apocalypse success? 🤔
 
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RikidyBones said:
I have three quarter of an acre here in Florida with about a 5 minute walk from a retention pond. I'm set up for apocalypse success? 🤔
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Maybe not so much lol. All joking aside, it takes a 1 acre vegetable garden, with spring, summer and fall crops to feed a family of 4 for a year. Kind of mind bending to think how many people are in this world and what it takes to feed everyone.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Maybe not so much lol. All joking aside, it takes a 1 acre vegetable garden, with spring, summer and fall crops to feed a family of 4 for a year. Kind of mind bending to think how many people are in this world and what it takes to feed everyone.
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I participated in one of those Leadership Classes for our county. It has had a lot of recent development so there are a lot of small tracts that have been cut out, 50 acres here, 100 there, and we visited a family that leases those tracts. Incredible effort they put into it. They buy their heavy equipment 3rd hand because it's so expensive and they have had to become near-genius backyard mechanics. But they keep it going.
 
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norrislakevol said:
I have some similar experiences. There are two homesteads on Norris lake that are my relatives. My great great grandfathers house foundation can be seen during winter draw down. My great grandfathers chimney still stands in the woods up from it. Over taken by TVA in the 1930s.

If you want a native fruit tree for your land get black or royal limbertwig apple trees. There are from the southern Appalachians region. The Royal Limbertwig was discovered in Cades Cove some years back....your old family's stomping grounds. They are good apples that ripen in fall, and will keep for several months in the fridge. Check out the trees of antiquity website to get these. Horse apples were also common around these parts, and have a tart flavor. Plant several different species for good pollination. Take my advice, keep them pruned short. Never let them get higher than 10 feet tall, that way you can harvest and prune everything with just a 6 foot step ladder. No climbing.
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will look for the Royal Limbertwig, never heard of it before. I hate to say it, but I never even get fruit out of the four trees in our yard. We let the squirrels and rabbits have it. My wife loves the fact we live in the city limits but we get all this wildlife. She has adopted a groundhog that lives in a corner of our property and even cuts fruit up and leaves it by his hole. I haven't had a peach or plum make it to ripeness since we planted them.

The groundhog took over the hole from a fox that raised two litters of kits in successive years but I think she was uneasy with all the dogs in the neighborhood despite them all being inside electric fences. Plus there is a large open space about 800 yards from us and coyotes moved in for a while. (The city wiped them out last summer after they started taking out the neighborhood cats. One took a neighbor's rather large cat while the neighbor was in the yard not 20 feet away. People realized that could have been a toddler. End of coyotes.) But she moved on and he took over.

I even went to mowing on a once every 2 week schedule and didn't fertilize this year because groundhogs love clover.

I've found that I am just like my maternal grandfather. A renowned sportsman, badly wounded WW I veteran, he ended up not being able to kill later in life. I've become the same way.

With one exception: Russians. Still a cold warrior.
 
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will look for the Royal Limbertwig, never heard of it before. I hate to say it, but I never even get fruit out of the four trees in our yard. We let the squirrels and rabbits have it. My wife loves the fact we live in the city limits but we get all this wildlife. She has adopted a groundhog that lives in a corner of our property and even cuts fruit up and leaves it by his hole. I haven't had a peach or plum make it to ripeness since we planted them.

The groundhog took over the hole from a fox that raised two litters of kits in successive years but I think she was uneasy with all the dogs in the neighborhood despite them all being inside electric fences. Plus there is a large open space about 800 yards from us and coyotes moved in for a while. (The city wiped them out last summer after they started taking out the neighborhood cats. One took a neighbor's rather large cat while the neighbor was in the yard not 20 feet away. People realized that could have been a toddler. End of coyotes.) But she moved on and he took over.

I even went to mowing on a once every 2 week schedule and didn't fertilize this year because groundhogs love clover.

I've found that I am just like my maternal grandfather. A renowned sportsman, badly wounded WW I veteran, he ended up not being able to kill later in life. I've become the same way.

With one exception: Russians. Still a cold warrior.
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you are a prepper and getting on me for a my gloom and doom in the China thread?
****ing hilarious
 
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WBO said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will look for the Royal Limbertwig, never heard of it before. I hate to say it, but I never even get fruit out of the four trees in our yard. We let the squirrels and rabbits have it. My wife loves the fact we live in the city limits but we get all this wildlife. She has adopted a groundhog that lives in a corner of our property and even cuts fruit up and leaves it by his hole. I haven't had a peach or plum make it to ripeness since we planted them.

The groundhog took over the hole from a fox that raised two litters of kits in successive years but I think she was uneasy with all the dogs in the neighborhood despite them all being inside electric fences. Plus there is a large open space about 800 yards from us and coyotes moved in for a while. (The city wiped them out last summer after they started taking out the neighborhood cats. One took a neighbor's rather large cat while the neighbor was in the yard not 20 feet away. People realized that could have been a toddler. End of coyotes.) But she moved on and he took over.

I even went to mowing on a once every 2 week schedule and didn't fertilize this year because groundhogs love clover.

I've found that I am just like my maternal grandfather. A renowned sportsman, badly wounded WW I veteran, he ended up not being able to kill later in life. I've become the same way.

With one exception: Russians. Still a cold warrior.
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Oh man, I have fought rabbits and ground hogs for years. They will destroy a garden, particularly young plants. I had to build a fence with 2 X 4 wire, plus chicken wire around the base...plus a strand of electric fence to keep the ground hogs from digging under the fence. Another strand goes up higher to keep the coons out of my sweet corn. They climb up the fence, they get lit up. Keeps me from having to shoot all those pests, which over time is generally a losing battle anyways.

I myself have mellowed as I have aged. Not only do I not want to deal with a dead animal if I shoot it, I just don't have the desire to hunt or kill like I used to. Happens to the best of us!
 
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WBO said:
Because of global warming, more intense storms. I blame the right for that as well.
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Erratic weather patterns are a result of global warming. This group deters those facts. Up until the late 1990s, the Republican campaign platform included a commitment to fighting global warming
 
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You do realize that Hunter Biden was on the board of an energy company dont you?
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All the problems going on and all you guys can say is "Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden!" in response. A complete desert of new ideas. No wonder Gen Z is rejecting the right. Ya' got nothing.

Now one of you will call me a Marxist and we will have exhausted the library of right wing retorts.
 
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WBO said:
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All the problems going on and all you guys can say is "Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden!" in response. A complete desert of new ideas. No wonder Gen Z is rejecting the right. Ya' got nothing.

Now one of you will call me a Marxist and we will have exhausted the library of right wing retorts.
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Are u really that dense?
Just like the F35 you make accusations that are lies when my posting history confirms I have been a proponent
And Hunter was on an energy board which is relevant to you saying it was a right wing issue
You are befuddled and I am done responding to you
 
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WBO said:
Because of global warming, more intense storms. I blame the right for that as well.
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Erratic weather patterns are a result of global warming. This group deters those facts. Up until the late 1990s, the Republican campaign platform included a commitment to fighting global warming
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You guys need to understand something about climate change.....

 
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