Romney can't win

#101
#101
golfballs03 said:
It's just dumb to say that Romney can't win
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I dont know if he can. He can't attack newt as a faux conservative because he is one himself.

Newt has sharpened his "**** the media" message to such a fine point and focused his anger so precisely that he will dominate the south.
 
#102
#102
It's a long way to the election.

If the economy stays where it's at and Obama's message is "fairness" and "green jobs" then I'd say Mitt or Gingrich has a pretty good chance.
 
#103
#103
When gas hits $5.00 a gallon this summer into fall, BHO is toast.
ANY "R" candidate will beat him.
 
#104
#104
milohimself said:
I dont know if he can. He can't attack newt as a faux conservative because he is one himself.

Newt has sharpened his "**** the media" message to such a fine point and focused his anger so precisely that he will dominate the south.
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Of course he can win. Look at the polls.
 
#106
#106
dreVol said:
let me see if I understand:

Romney pays the amount of taxes he is legally required to, this is a major story because the rate is "too low."

Tim Geithner does not pay taxes, this is a non story even though he is the Treasury secretary.

Charlie Rangel evades taxes, this is a non story because it is racist to suggest that Charlie Rangel is a tax cheat.

paying taxes is bad. evading taxes is ok.
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Exactly, standards aren't applied equally across the spectrum...
 
#108
#108
YorkVol said:
Why?
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Because LG sees no difference in income and capital gains that have already been taxed once the first time around. (That and the fact that most of his clients are federal employees and they need a raise.)
 
#111
#111
milohimself said:
Might get raked for this, but it seems like newt connects with glen becks and hannitys audience and mitt doesn't. Not saying mitt can't but right now he doesn't
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Romney's problem is that he is bereft of anything resembling a personality and an inability to take a firm stand on pretty much any issue.

Getting a firm stance from him is like trying to pick up a cat that doesn't want to be bothered.
 
#112
#112
MG1968 said:
Romney's problem is that he is bereft of anything resembling a personality and an inability to take a firm stand on pretty much any issue.

Getting a firm stance from him is like trying to pick up a cat that doesn't want to be bothered.
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Hence the statue quote from earlier.

However, most people on this forum have said at least that hes not really the man hes posturing himself as. Hes not a small government republican.

But hes adept at selling this image of himself and conveying anger in the process and thats what has set him apart.

I dont think what I'm saying is all that crazy: southern conservatives as a group have many people that are very, very angry with obama and newt is embodying that right now.
 
#114
#114
T-TownVol said:
Because LG sees no difference in income and capital gains that have already been taxed once the first time around. (That and the fact that most of his clients are federal employees and they need a raise.)
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No, I would prefer no taxation on corporate revenues, distribute all profits at the end of the year, and tax the recipients of said profits as if they earned it painting houses, i.e. ordinary income.

No fraud of pretending corporations actually pay those rates, the corporations save tons by not having to hire lawyers, lobbyists, and CPAs, to avoid the taxes, rates are dependable and predictable.

And people who make their money investing pay taxes just as though they made their money any other way.

Totally fair, simple, and efficient.
 
#115
#115
lawgator1 said:
No, I would prefer no taxation on corporate revenues, distribute all profits at the end of the year, and tax the recipients of said profits as if they earned it painting houses, i.e. ordinary income.

No fraud of pretending corporations actually pay those rates, the corporations save tons by not having to hire lawyers, lobbyists, and CPAs, to avoid the taxes, rates are dependable and predictable.

And people who make their money investing pay taxes just as though they made their money any other way.

Totally fair, simple, and efficient.
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utgibbs, is that you?
 
#117
#117
LG, It is not surprising that you do not address the issue that I stated. I will ask it as a straight forward question.
Has the money that a person uses to make the investments that pay him a capital gain already been taxed when earned?
 
#118
#118
T-TownVol said:
LG, It is not surprising that you do not address the issue that I stated. I will ask it as a straight forward question.
Has the money that a person uses to make the investments that pay him a capital gain already been taxed when earned?
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It is subject to taxation, yes, but as we all know the corporations figure out ways not to pay any of it.

So the real answer is that it depends on how good the company is at dodging taxes (not illegally, but then again that's the problem).

The solution is to eliminate the corporate tax and to FULLY tax it as ORDINARY income to those who invested in the business, be they a Mitt Romney or a guy doing a little day trading.

All corporate net revenue would be taxed one time, and according to the bracket into which the investor falls.

No lawyers, no complicated forms. It gets reported. It gets taxed.

Once.

But fully.
 
#119
#119
So, you want to assign a start date for this to begin, because all the invested money curently has already been taxed "ONCE" as you point out. So, really you agree that capital gains have already been taxed "ONCE", thanks.
 
#120
#120
T-TownVol said:
So, you want to assign a start date for this to begin, because all the invested money curently has already been taxed "ONCE" as you point out. So, really you agree that capital gains have already been taxed "ONCE", thanks.
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Oh gosh, I don't know. I am sure provisions could be made to implement it slowly to prevent that.

I don't think anyone believes that tax reform of any real magnitude would occur overnight. Probably be five years in its implementation, maybe more, and that is regardless of the plan ultimately adopted.
 
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