Romney will put you back in chains

#80
#80
orangesparkles said:
Still doesn't prove that he's an idiot.
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so if I said:

When the Cuban missile crisis happened, President Calvin Coolidge got on Skype and didn't just talk about the, you know, the cold war. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.

you wouldn't see me as an idiot?
 
#81
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utvolpj said:
so if I said:

When the Cuban missile crisis happened, President Calvin Coolidge got on Skype and didn't just talk about the, you know, the cold war. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.

you wouldn't see me as an idiot?
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Unfortunate error, not damning proof of idiocy.
 
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One of Joe's more productive moments.
 
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#83
#83
Unfortunately for you guys its the top of the ticket that people vote for.

You know you are in trouble when your candidate talks about how "desperate" the incumbent is, particularly when the incumbent holds a significant advantage in the polls. Generally means your candidate has a pronoun problem.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Unfortunately for you guys its the top of the ticket that people vote for.

You know you are in trouble when your candidate talks about how "desperate" the incumbent is, particularly when the incumbent holds a significant advantage in the polls. Generally means your candidate has a pronoun problem.
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Have you looked at the polls lately?

3.5 point RCP national advantage for Obama and he's still not cracking 48%

Iowa, VA, Florida, Michigan, Wisc all within 2 points and Ohio within 3.

Hardly a significant advantage. Particularly when said incumbent can't get to 50%
 
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volinbham said:
Have you looked at the polls lately?

3.5 point RCP national advantage for Obama and he's still not cracking 48%

Iowa, VA, Florida, Michigan, Wisc all within 2 points and Ohio within 3.

Hardly a significant advantage. Particularly when said incumbent can't get to 50%
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Florida: RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Florida: Romney vs. Obama


Florida: Romney vs. Obama

Polling Data

PollDateSampleObama (D)Romney (R)SpreadRCP Average7/9 - 8/14--47.545.7Obama +1.8Purple Strategies8/13 - 8/14600 LV4748Romney +1CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac7/24 - 7/301177 LV5145Obama +6PPP (D)7/26 - 7/29871 LV4847Obama +1SurveyUSA7/17 - 7/19647 LV4843Obama +5Mason-Dixon*7/9 - 7/11800 LV4645Obama +1Rasmussen Reports7/9 - 7/9500 LV4546Romney +1


The only two polls that have Romney ahead are, shockingly, Rasmussen and something called "Purple Strategies." I looked them up -- they are biased towards the GOP, just like Rasmussen. Castellanos welcomes Purple Nation Strategies - POLITICO.com


Those two polls are the only reason it appears in RCP average to be within two points. If you take those two GOP-biased polls out, Obama leads in Florida by more like 4-6 points.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida: RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Florida: Romney vs. Obama


Florida: Romney vs. Obama

Polling Data

PollDateSampleObama (D)Romney (R)SpreadRCP Average7/9 - 8/14--47.545.7Obama +1.8Purple Strategies8/13 - 8/14600 LV4748Romney +1CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac7/24 - 7/301177 LV5145Obama +6PPP (D)7/26 - 7/29871 LV4847Obama +1SurveyUSA7/17 - 7/19647 LV4843Obama +5Mason-Dixon*7/9 - 7/11800 LV4645Obama +1Rasmussen Reports7/9 - 7/9500 LV4546Romney +1


The only two polls that have Romney ahead are, shockingly, Rasmussen and something called "Purple Strategies." I looked them up -- they are biased towards the GOP, just like Rasmussen. Castellanos welcomes Purple Nation Strategies - POLITICO.com


Those two polls are the only reason it appears in RCP average to be within two points. If you take those two GOP-biased polls out, Obama leads in Florida by more like 4-6 points.
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I can almost guarantee those other polls over samples Dems. In 2008 Rasmussen called the race almost dead on, so were they GOP-biased when they said Barry would beat McCain?
 
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volfanjustin said:
I can almost guarantee those other polls over samples Dems. In 2008 Rasmussen called the race almost dead on, so were they GOP-biased when they said Barry would beat McCain?
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You need to look at their entire track record. It's not good.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Florida: RealClearPolitics - Election 2012 - Florida: Romney vs. Obama


Florida: Romney vs. Obama

Polling Data

PollDateSampleObama (D)Romney (R)SpreadRCP Average7/9 - 8/14--47.545.7Obama +1.8Purple Strategies8/13 - 8/14600 LV4748Romney +1CBS/NYT/Quinnipiac7/24 - 7/301177 LV5145Obama +6PPP (D)7/26 - 7/29871 LV4847Obama +1SurveyUSA7/17 - 7/19647 LV4843Obama +5Mason-Dixon*7/9 - 7/11800 LV4645Obama +1Rasmussen Reports7/9 - 7/9500 LV4546Romney +1


The only two polls that have Romney ahead are, shockingly, Rasmussen and something called "Purple Strategies." I looked them up -- they are biased towards the GOP, just like Rasmussen. Castellanos welcomes Purple Nation Strategies - POLITICO.com


Those two polls are the only reason it appears in RCP average to be within two points. If you take those two GOP-biased polls out, Obama leads in Florida by more like 4-6 points.
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I'm sure you also noticed that Gallup (that stalwart conservative org) has Romney up in national polls and off course the 6 pointer poll in FL also skews the RCP average, particularly since the 6 point poll is over 2 weeks old.

The point it that the polls do not show a significant lead for Obama and the polls are highly volatile. Just a week ago you were telling us Obama was up by 9 or something in FL - clearly that wasn't the case.
 
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#90
The polls are telling how bad a nominee Mitt Romney is.
With the sentiment of the country, the GOP nominee should be polling 52-55%.
 
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Gramps said:
The polls are telling how bad a nominee Mitt Romney is.
With the sentiment of the country, the GOP nominee should be polling 52-55%.
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With almost 50% of the nation's population on the Obama government handout gravy train, just how strong a candidate is Obama when he still can't garner over 48% of the national vote?
 
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#95
Obama's message of "He's a rich white guy that wants to hoard all the wealth" seems to hit that target audience he seeks. I talked to a few yesterday. I didn't express my thoughts. It was typical joe voter that had been watching a lot of TV to form his opinion. I hope most of the clueless stay at home come voting day.
 
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#100
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Gramps said:
Agree. This should be a cakewalk for the GOP.
The GOP candidate should be polling 6-8% better than Obama .
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I have no idea, but has that ever happened to an incumbent (historically).

I think the polls will reflect this much closer to the election, but have no expectations until late September through mid October.
 
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