Romney

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sjt18 said:
But you continue to deny the truth about Romney. He is a political chamelion. See RespectTradition's article comparing his comments about Obamacare. The man is lying....
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You may not be doing it intentionally, but it is still annoying. :)

Believe me, I get ALL of that about Romney and I think most people outside his immediately family have the same opinion. He's got RINO tendencies and is the most "politiciany" politician in the primary . . . and I'll still vote for him if he gets the nomination because he'll be the best alternative to hit the brakes on the Obama agenda.

The Obama administration is affecting me personally in a technical way that I won't bore you with that could potentially force me to switch careers. If Romney happens, I'll offer calculated support rather than shoot myself in the foot.
 
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didn't jesse ventura say romney was the best guy for the job during the previous potus election? that disqualifies him right away.
 
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to be fair though, Romney was and still is, insistent that insurance coverage is purchased through existing providers and is not for creating a government-centered health care delivery system

it's possible that since 2007 events have happened that have made him realize that an individual mandate is unconstitutional
 
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MG1968 said:
it's possible that since 2007 events have happened that have made him realize that an individual mandate is unconstitutional
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Yeah, the event is called flip flopping!!!!
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He has said repeatedly that its a states rights issue, and that its what the people of MA wanted (at least at the time)
 
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GAVol said:
You may not be doing it intentionally, but it is still annoying. :)

Believe me, I get ALL of that about Romney and I think most people outside his immediately family have the same opinion. He's got RINO tendencies and is the most "politiciany" politician in the primary . . . and I'll still vote for him if he gets the nomination because he'll be the best alternative to hit the brakes on the Obama agenda.

The Obama administration is affecting me personally in a technical way that I won't bore you with that could potentially force me to switch careers. If Romney happens, I'll offer calculated support rather than shoot myself in the foot.
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I understand. And I really hope you know that I meant no disrespect to you at all.

I do believe there are enough conservatives like me who are absolutely fed up with the Romney type of Republican that he is unelectable. I don't think he can garner enough swing votes to make up the difference.

My sincere hope is that he fades pretty quickly once the real voting starts.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
he can take perry with him.
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I hope so. I hope that playground stuff they're engaging in will take both out of the race.

My hopes right now are resting with Cain.

I like some of the others but am not sure how electable they are. Santorum would be OK with me. Newt's bomb throwing past may catch up with him but I would absolutely LOVE to see Obama try to debate him.

Bachmann cannot win but even if she could I am not comfortable with her "presence". One of the others could come out of the blue... but it isn't the best field we could have hoped for.
 
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sjt18 said:
I understand. And I really hope you know that I meant no disrespect to you at all.

I do believe there are enough conservatives like me who are absolutely fed up with the Romney type of Republican that he is unelectable. I don't think he can garner enough swing votes to make up the difference.

My sincere hope is that he fades pretty quickly once the real voting starts.
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The Independent Voter isnt voting for Obama in 2012. Well over 2/3rds of them flat out wont vote for Obama this time around. The Independent Voter can see that Romney is smart, can create jobs and is "presidential". Thats all they need to see.

Romney with a Tea Party VP will equal a landslide win. Obama is not winning FL, NC, VA, IN and most likely PA, OH, MI.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
The Independent Voter isnt voting for Obama in 2012. Well over 2/3rds of them flat out wont vote for Obama this time around. The Independent Voter can see that Romney is smart, can create jobs and is "presidential". Thats all they need to see.

Romney with a Tea Party VP will equal a landslide win. Obama is not winning FL, NC, VA, IN and most likely PA, OH, MI.
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We can both remember what the other said... I just hope we don't have to see a President Romney. He could set the GOP back 20 years... and though not a conservative... would do significant damage to conservative credibility.
 
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sjt18 said:
We can both remember what the other said... I just hope we don't have to see a President Romney. He could set the GOP back 20 years... and though not a conservative... would do significant damage to conservative credibility.
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Yea getting the UE rate back below 7% will really damage the conservative credibilty
 
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GAVol said:
Romney is not my choice either, but i'll get behind him if he's the nominee. I'd rather win with a guy I don't love than lose because I stayed home to make a point.
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I understand your reasoning, but if you support politicians of the same mold as the Bushes, McCains, and Doles, you're gonna keep getting that type of politician. If large masses of Republican voters stay home, the party may finally get the point.

Romney will suck and then a Democrat will get elected and we got nowhere.
 
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nbakerld said:
I understand your reasoning, but if you support politicians of the same mold as the Bushes, McCains, and Doles, you're gonna keep getting that type of politician. If large masses of Republican voters stay home, the party may finally get the point.

Romney will suck and then a Democrat will get elected and we got nowhere.
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Or he will get UE back below 7%, the DOW will be above 15K and he would get re-elected in a landslide
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
No we havent. Obama's resume is pathetic

Go pull up his linkedin page, his gaps in employment are glaring
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Oh sorry. I'll remember this for next time - when insulting politicians, I must include a more direct insult for Obama or it will not be effective.
 
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milohimself said:
I don't know about you, but I don't like my candidates to change their minds about anything. Ever.
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Politics 101: If you ever plan on running for office, never write anything down and never commit to a specific policy position.

Pretty crazy.
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Yea getting the UE rate back below 7% will really damage the conservative credibilty
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I am not sure his policies would do that. UE is not simply a function of bad policies any more. Obama has almost "fixed" UE at a high number. The next guy has to be completely willing to undo the damage. The next guy has to have a shrink gov't agenda. I don't think Romney does.

And honestly... there are factors in US unemployment that depend completely on the world economy that no one can fix in a single term. They might change but it won't be because of a President.... unless that guy could figure out how to get the Chinese to come to the rescue of the PIGS. (Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain)
 
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milohimself said:
I don't know about you, but I don't like my candidates to change their minds about anything. Ever.
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(sarcasm noted)

I do. I like for them to make reasoned choices to change positions. It helps if they do so when it could cost them something. My issue with Romney is that all of his "changes of mind" seem to benefit him politically for whatever he's trying to attain.

But I also don't think there's really very much question about who he is at the core. He is a Progressive, establishment Republican. With Bush the term "big gov't conservative" was applied. He believes in big gov't and central control but differs with Dems on how to use it and who should mainly benefit.

Some of LG's accusations actually apply to these guys... concerning favor to the rich.
 
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dreVol said:
Politics 101: If you ever plan on running for office, never write anything down and never commit to a specific policy position.

Pretty crazy.
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My favorite guy right now is Cain. His plan calls for special economic zones that will get favorable tax treatment. I HATE that aspect of his plan.

I don't think it is necessary to agree with a person 100% or even 90%. I would rather have someone be honest, disagree with them, and have the opportunity to calculate that into my choice than to have someone lie to me. I guess I'm just strange that way... I don't like being lied to or the people who do it.
 
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milohimself said:
I don't know about you, but I don't like my candidates to change their minds about anything. Ever.
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There is a differnce in a candidate changing their mind about an issue over a period of time and a candidate that has a history of changing his stance on a number of issues depending on the office he/she is running for.
 
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