Romney's IRA: Investment gurus can you explain this to me?

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WA_Vol said:
Makes sense to me.
I think Romney's handlers need to stop telling him what to say and let him speak frankly.
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As awkward as he has been the last few months trying to carefully repeat what he has been told to say, letting him speak freely would be disastrous for his campaign.

For one thing, he'd likely contradict himself 78 times in the same sentence.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What it does suggest, I would have to admit, is that Romney's refusal to give up his tax returns hasn't hurt him nearly as much as one might have expected.
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No one expected it to hurt Romney other than you. I'm not even sure the Obama campaign thought it would stick, but they gotta try something.
 
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lawgator1 said:
As awkward as he has been the last few months trying to carefully repeat what he has been told to say, letting him speak freely would be disastrous for his campaign.

For one thing, he'd likely contradict himself 78 times in the same sentence.
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Like Obama talking about building businesses?
 
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lawgator1 said:
Context.

Not that it matters to you.
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It does matter. You're saying that Mitt can't think or speak for himself, but Obama also makes the same mistakes when he gets away from his telepromter.

I'm not the biggest fan of Mitt, but in a true debate he'd run circles around Obama on the topic of business and building the economy.
 
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Volst53 said:
It does matter. You're saying that Mitt can't think or speak for himself, but Obama also makes the same mistakes when he gets away from his telepromter.

I'm not the biggest fan of Mitt, but in a true debate he'd run circles around Obama on the topic of business and building the economy.
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Yeah, no.

Obama has made his fair share of misstatements and been skewered for them. His comment about having to give credit to those who helped some build a business with their labor has been intentionally bastardized by the Romney camp by taking it out of context.

Romney makes his singular misstatements, that's one thing. But its more the purposeful, calculated, 180s he pulls on a routine basis to make whoever he is talking to happy that irks me.

I think we'll be seeing some commercials about that as time wears on.



Take a look at this and tell me his back and forth on it doesn't make your head spin.

Mitt Romney Flip Flops | Mitt Romney abortion | Mitt Romney global warming | Mitt Romney Obamacare - YouTube
 
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lawgator1 said:
Yeah, no.

Obama has made his fair share of misstatements and been skewered for them. His comment about having to give credit to those who helped some build a business with their labor has been intentionally bastardized by the Romney camp by taking it out of context.
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If Romney had quoted the entire paragraph in order to provide context, it would still have been the same message.
 
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bamawriter said:
Do you honestly believe that the offending sentence had a different meaning when coupled with the rest of the paragraph?
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Sure -- that successful business owners should not forget that it wasn't just their idea and investment that made them successful.

I have yet to meet a single person who has a successful business that did it completely on his own. If you know such a person, kudos, but they would be the rarest of exceptions, I would think.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Sure -- that successful business owners should not forget that it wasn't just their idea and investment that made them successful.
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But the successes and the failures utilize the same government-provided infrastructure. So the infrastructure clearly has nothing to do with whether one succeeds or fails.
 
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bamawriter said:
But the successes and the failures utilize the same government-provided infrastructure. So the infrastructure clearly has nothing to do with whether one succeeds or fails.
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Funny the the guy who was in his commercial on this got $800,000 in federal Tax revenue bonds. And two of the people in his staged "we built it" thing got federal contracts, one of them getting $11 million !!

Oops.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Funny the the guy who was in his commercial on this got $800,000 in federal Tax revenue bonds. And two of the people in his staged "we built it" thing got federal contracts, one of them getting $11 million !!

Oops.
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Totally ignored my post.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Funny the the guy who was in his commercial on this got $800,000 in federal Tax revenue bonds. And two of the people in his staged "we built it" thing got federal contracts, one of them getting $11 million !!

Oops.
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Your suggesting that having the government as a customer means the government is responsible for your business?
 
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Funny how one week after Team Obama told Romney to put his big boy/big girl undies on in reference to them suggesting his a felon that Obama is whining that Romney is taking his "you didn't build that" comment out of context.
 
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I believe this whole, "But his company got govmunt money!" outrage is more ridiculous than the IRA issue.
 
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Weezy said:
I believe this whole, "But his company got govmunt money!" outrage is more ridiculous than the IRA issue.
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Yep - it's all about getting Romney on something regardless of how far you have to twist the logic.

Would be nice if we evaluated candidates on policy statements and actions.
 
#222
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lawgator1 said:
Yeah, no.

Obama has made his fair share of misstatements and been skewered for them. His comment about having to give credit to those who helped some build a business with their labor has been intentionally bastardized by the Romney camp by taking it out of context.

Romney makes his singular misstatements, that's one thing. But its more the purposeful, calculated, 180s he pulls on a routine basis to make whoever he is talking to happy that irks me.

I think we'll be seeing some commercials about that as time wears on.



Take a look at this and tell me his back and forth on it doesn't make your head spin.

Mitt Romney Flip Flops | Mitt Romney abortion | Mitt Romney global warming | Mitt Romney Obamacare - YouTube
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Riiiight. So Obama hasn't flip-flopped on any issues? Your as hypocritical as both major party candidates.
 
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WA_Vol said:
what does Buffet stand to gain by coming out on issues like this? he's not running for public office. he's the 2nd wealthiest man in the world already. what would be his motivation other then he truly believes what he is saying?
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Money, power, reputation. I'd say reputation is a huge factor. He's the rich guy that nobody hates because of what he's said about taxes.
 
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