Roster Management: needs and room

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Maybe this should go in the football forum, but I thought it was appropriate here to discuss what we have room/needs for in the transfer portal. Here's what I have for next year's scholarship numbers. I'm doing some projecting here, but this is as close as I can get right now. Don't pay much attention to the order of depth. I'm just sort of playing with it right now. We'll obviously have a better idea after spring ball as to where guys stand depth-wise. With a few exceptions, I just threw freshmen at the bottom of the depth chart.

QB- Joe Milton (RSSr.), Tayven Jackson (RSFr.), Nico Iamaleava (Fr.)
RB- Dylan Sampson (So.), Jaylen Wright (Jr.), Jabari Small (Sr.), Khalifa Keith (Fr.)
WR- Bru McCoy (RSJr.), Kaleb Webb (So.), Walker Merrill (Jr.)
WR- Ramel Keyton (Sr.), Chas Nimrod (So.), Nathan Leacock (Fr.)
WR- Squirrel White (So.), Cameron Seldon (Fr.), Nate Spillman (Fr.)
TE- Jacob Warren (RSSr.), Ethan Davis (Fr.)
RT- Jeremiah Crawford (Sr.), Dayne Davis (RSSr.), Shamurad Umarov (Fr.), Ayden Bussell (Fr.)
RG- Javontez Spraggins (Sr.), Masai Reddick (RSFr.), Vysen Lang (Fr.)
C- Cooper Mays (Sr.), Jackson Lampley (RSJr.)
LG- Addison Nichols (So.), Maurice Clipper, Jr. (RSFr.)
LT- Gerald Mincey (RSJr.), RJ Perry (RSJr.), Brian Grant (RSFr.)

SDE- Tyler Baron (Sr.), Tyre West (So.), Dominic Bailey (RSJr.), Daevin Hobbs (Fr.)
DT- Kurot Garland (RSSr.), Bryson Eason (Sr.), Elijah Simmons (RSSr.), Jordan Phillips (RSFr.), Tyree Weathersby (Fr.), Nathan Robinson (Fr.)
DT- Omari Thomas (Sr.), Da’Jon Terry (RSSr.), Elijah Davis (Jr.), Jayson Jenkins (RSFr.), Trevor Duncan, (Fr.)
LEO- Joshua Josephs (So.), Roman Harrison (Sr.), James Pearce (So.), Chandavian Bradley (Fr.), Caleb Herring (Fr.)
MIKE- Juwan Mitchell (RSSr.), Jalen Smith (Fr.), Jeremiah Telendar (Fr.), Kwauze Garland (RSJr.)
WLB- Aaron Beasley (Sr.), Elijah Herring (So.), Kaleb Perry (RSFr.), Arion Carter (Fr.)
LCB- Warren Burrell (Sr.), Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)
NB- Tamarion McDonald (Sr.), Christian Charles (Jr.), Christian Conyer (Fr.)
S- Doneiko Slaughter (Sr.), Andre Turrentine (RSSo.), Cameron Miller (RSFr.), Jack Luttrell (Fr.)
S- Wesley Walker (RSJr), Jourdan Thomas (So.), John Slaughter (Fr.), Sylvester Smith (Fr.)

K- JT Carver (RSSo.)
P- Jackson Ross (So.)
KOS- JT Carver (RSSo.)

KR-
PR- Dee Williams (Sr.)
LS- Matthew Salansky (RSSr.)

77 on scholarship (79 with projected additions)

Notes:

1) This roster and coinciding numbers account for some projected departures of guys with eligibility remaining who I'm not counting in the above numbers:: Amari McNeil, Jeremy Banks (NFL), Jalin Hyatt (NFL), Jaylen McCollough, William Parker, Miles Campbell. These are guys I think will move on for different reasons. Kwauze Garland or RJ Perry may be other ones, not sure...but I counted those two in the numbers for now.

2) The two names in italics, Elijah Davis and Arion Carter, are projected commitments. Obviously, Carter will be a tough pull, but I added he and Davis just to account for them if needed.

3) Do we have 85 to give? Did we reduce those with our self-imposed sanctions?

4) I didn't count Carver, Salensky, or Ross as scholarship guys because they're walk-ons. Have any of them earned scholarships?

If these numbers hold up, we have room for 7 portal additions. If Warren comes back, we only have room for 6, but I suspect that would mean UT would only take 1 TE transfer instead of 2. We may have 1 or 2 more (or less) leave than I project and we may not land one or both of Davis and Carter. But I suspect the numbers will be close to this.

I would break down the needs/takes from the portal as follows:

1 QB (only if it's a big fish like Hudson Card)
1 WR
1 OT
2 TE (1 if Warren returns)
1 CB
1 S

If we don't land a QB (or if more than I project leave, like Garland or Perry, or we don't land Carter and or Davis), we may use that spot on a RB. But I think we actually have enough there. We can get through the year with 4 scholarship RBs. Only 3 received meaningful minutes this season. Also, Seldon will be a hybrid RB/WR, so he makes 5. If we don't land Carter, I think we take a LB. If we do, I think we stand pat at LB.

Anyway, I thought it would help to visualize the roster, numbers, openings, and needs.
 
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Why would you project and base a need on someone who hasn’t even committed and is heavily rumored to be committing elsewhere?

Also, we were one injury away from being in dire straights at rb this year.

I think maybe we could also show some CBs the door and bring in different ones.
 
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Why would you project and base a need on someone who hasn’t even committed and is heavily rumored to be committing elsewhere?
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I acknowledged that it's fluid and that Davis and Carter may not be counted (hence the italics). Davis and Carter still have visits. They're basically the remainder of our recruiting board. They are both tentatively included. I assumed the reader could add or subtract 1 from those numbers if we don't land one of them.
 
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Maybe this should go in the football forum, but I thought it was appropriate here to discuss what we have room/needs for in the transfer portal. Here's what I have for next year's scholarship numbers. I'm doing some projecting here, but this is as close as I can get right now. Don't pay much attention to the order of depth. I'm just sort of playing with it right now. We'll obviously have a better idea after spring ball as to where guys stand depth-wise. With a few exceptions, I just threw freshmen at the bottom of the depth chart.

QB- Joe Milton (RSSr.), Tayven Jackson (RSFr.), Nico Iamaleava (Fr.)
RB- Dylan Sampson (So.), Jaylen Wright (Jr.), Jabari Small (Sr.), Khalifa Keith (Fr.)
WR- Bru McCoy (RSJr.), Kaleb Webb (So.), Walker Merrill (Jr.)
WR- Ramel Keyton (Sr.), Chas Nimrod (So.), Nathan Leacock (Fr.)
WR- Squirrel White (So.), Cameron Seldon (Fr.), Nate Spillman (Fr.)
TE- Jacob Warren (RSSr.), Ethan Davis (Fr.)
RT- Jeremiah Crawford (Sr.), Dayne Davis (RSSr.), Shamurad Umarov (Fr.), Ayden Bussell (Fr.)
RG- Javontez Spraggins (Sr.), Masai Reddick (RSFr.), Vysen Lang (Fr.)
C- Cooper Mays (Sr.), Jackson Lampley (RSJr.)
LG- Addison Nichols (So.), Maurice Clipper, Jr. (RSFr.)
LT- Gerald Mincey (RSJr.), RJ Perry (RSJr.), Brian Grant (RSFr.)

SDE- Tyler Baron (Sr.), Tyre West (So.), Dominic Bailey (RSJr.), Daevin Hobbs (Fr.)
DT- Kurot Garland (RSSr.), Bryson Eason (Sr.), Elijah Simmons (RSSr.), Jordan Phillips (RSFr.), Tyree Weathersby (Fr.), Nathan Robinson (Fr.)
DT- Omari Thomas (Sr.), Da’Jon Terry (RSSr.), Elijah Davis (Jr.), Jayson Jenkins (RSFr.), Trevor Duncan, (Fr.)
LEO- Joshua Josephs (So.), Roman Harrison (Sr.), James Pearce (So.), Chandavian Bradley (Fr.), Caleb Herring (Fr.)
MIKE- Juwan Mitchell (RSSr.), Jalen Smith (Fr.), Jeremiah Telendar (Fr.), Kwauze Garland (RSJr.)
WLB- Aaron Beasley (Sr.), Elijah Herring (So.), Kaleb Perry (RSFr.), Arion Carter (Fr.)
LCB- Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)
NB- Tamarion McDonald (Sr.), Christian Charles (Jr.), Christian Conyer (Fr.)
S- Doneiko Slaughter (Sr.), Andre Turrentine (RSSo.), Cameron Miller (RSFr.), Jack Luttrell (Fr.)
S- Wesley Walker (RSJr), Jourdan Thomas (So.), John Slaughter (Fr.), Sylvester Smith (Fr.)

K- JT Carver (RSSo.)
P- Jackson Ross (So.)
KOS- JT Carver (RSSo.)

KR-
PR- Dee Williams (Sr.)
LS- Matthew Salansky (RSSr.)

76 on scholarship (78 with projected additions)

Notes:

1) This roster and coinciding numbers account for some projected departures of guys with eligibility remaining who I'm not counting in the above numbers:: Amari McNeil, Jeremy Banks (NFL), Jalin Hyatt (NFL), Jaylen McCollough, William Parker, Miles Campbell. These are guys I think will move on for different reasons. Kwauze Garland or RJ Perry may be other ones, not sure...but I counted those two in the numbers for now.

2) The two names in italics, Elijah Davis and Arion Carter, are projected commitments. Obviously, Carter will be a tough pull, but I added he and Davis just to account for them if needed.

3) Do we have 85 to give? Did we reduce those with our self-imposed sanctions?

4) I didn't count Carver, Salensky, or Ross as scholarship guys because they're walk-ons. Have any of them earned scholarships?

If these numbers hold up, we have room for 7 portal additions. If Warren comes back, we only have room for 6, but I suspect that would mean UT would only take 1 TE transfer instead of 2. We may have 1 or 2 more (or less) leave than I project and we may not land one or both of Davis and Carter. But I suspect the numbers will be close to this.

I would break down the needs/takes from the portal as follows:

1 QB (only if it's a big fish like Hudson Card)
1 WR
1 OT
2 TE (1 if Warren returns)
1 CB
1 S

If we don't land a QB (or if more than I project leave, like Garland or Perry, or we don't land Carter and or Davis), we may use that spot on a RB. But I think we actually have enough there. We can get through the year with 4 scholarship RBs. Only 3 received meaningful minutes this season. Also, Seldon will be a hybrid RB/WR, so he makes 5. If we don't land Carter, I think we take a LB. If we do, I think we stand pat at LB.

Anyway, I thought it would help to visualize the roster, numbers, openings, and needs.
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Needs are going to depend on who uses their super senior year. I think this may be the last group who can do that. Potentially, the roster doesn’t look bad, but you know you’re going to have some unexpected moves. Someone will try the draft or transfer. A guy like an Omari Thomas could make a huge impact if he returns.

The biggest question is will Heupel make the hard decisions on his defensive staff. Aside from run defense I didn’t l see an area where this team excelled.
 
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GregAmsler said:
I acknowledged that it's fluid and that Davis and Carter may not be counted (hence the italics). Davis and Carter still have visits. They're basically the remainder of our recruiting board. They are both tentatively included. I assumed the reader could add or subtract 1 from those numbers if we don't land one of them.
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LOOK at us here!!

WE can question the opinions of one another and still play nice.

Grown-ups in the house!
 
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Allvols1996 said:
Needs are going to depend on who uses their super senior year. I think this may be the last group who can do that. Potentially, the roster doesn’t look bad, but you know you’re going to have some unexpected moves. Someone will try the draft or transfer. A guy like an Omari Thomas could make a huge impact if he returns.

The biggest question is will Heupel make the hard decisions on his defensive staff. Aside from run defense I didn’t l see an area where this team excelled.
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I haven't seen any mention of Thomas going pro, but he's one I've asked about. Given his skill set and the season he had, I have to think it's a possibility. I really hope he comes back. I think Terry could be the next one to have a "jump" year in 2023 and the two of them together could be a wall in the middle.
 
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GregAmsler said:
I haven't seen any mention of Thomas going pro, but he's one I've asked about. Given his skill set and the season he had, I have to think it's a possibility. I really hope he comes back. I think Perry could be the next one to have a "jump" year in 2023 and the two of them together could be a wall in the middle.
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You mean Terry. I do believe Parker and Perry transfer down because staff loves all the true freshman abilities. Pulling a Hudson Card to me is difficult because Nico is that talented. We will see because we do need a QB experienced at college level that can play. Great post Amsler. Thanks In CHRIST Alone
 
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This is good work, I've been wondering about certain guys' eligibility. I'd say a lot of the guys you listed as Sophs will get a RS, but you can't really assume anything.

Can any player who was around in 2020 opt for the extra year? Guys like Garland I thought were done.
 
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LCB- Warren Burrell (Sr.), Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)

^^^^If these guys will develop and work really hard for the next 8 months, they could be so much better. Turnage and Hadden definitely have the tools.

We need to add 2 more experienced players.
 
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Not a lot of experience at LB. Still a position of need. Would like to see us bring in at least one from portal. Mitchell was a disappointment this year and was terrible in the USC game. Herring saw more playing time the last 2 games but still needs more experience. I can see him beating out Mitchell by end of 2023.
 
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Good job, Greg. Excellent summary. I assume your summary includes all of the scholly players. I'm a little concerned about the interior OL depth(see LG). I know we need another OT, but guard seems thinner. How many scholly QBs does a team typically carry? I was thinking 5 was more the norm. Now I've got to sit down and digest your summary. Lots of food for thought!!!
 
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You mean Terry. I do believe Parker and Perry transfer down because staff loves all the true freshman abilities. Pulling a Hudson Card to me is difficult because Nico is that talented. We will see because we do need a QB experienced at college level that can play. Great post Amsler. Thanks In CHRIST Alone
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Yes, Terry at DT. Thank you. I share your opinion on Parker and Perry. It's a shame because I was high on the upside of both, but Parker hasn't sniffed meaningful PT and Perry seems stuck in his development. He sure looks the part on the sidelines, though.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
LCB- Warren Burrell (Sr.), Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)

^^^^If these guys will develop and work really hard for the next 8 months, they could be so much better. Turnage and Hadden definitely have the tools.

We need to add 2 more experienced players.
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The CBs missed a lot of development in the offseason and camp due to injuries. Hopefully, they'll make up for it this offseason.
 
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RAVOL said:
You mean Terry. I do believe Parker and Perry transfer down because staff loves all the true freshman abilities. Pulling a Hudson Card to me is difficult because Nico is that talented. We will see because we do need a QB experienced at college level that can play. Great post Amsler. Thanks In CHRIST Alone
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Perry the OL or the LB? And who is Parker?
 
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VOLfrombama said:
LCB- Warren Burrell (Sr.), Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)

^^^^If these guys will develop and work really hard for the next 8 months, they could be so much better. Turnage and Hadden definitely have the tools.

We need to add 2 more experienced players.
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Agreed. I’m in the minority I know but think LB is a weaker position.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Maybe this should go in the football forum, but I thought it was appropriate here to discuss what we have room/needs for in the transfer portal. Here's what I have for next year's scholarship numbers. I'm doing some projecting here, but this is as close as I can get right now. Don't pay much attention to the order of depth. I'm just sort of playing with it right now. We'll obviously have a better idea after spring ball as to where guys stand depth-wise. With a few exceptions, I just threw freshmen at the bottom of the depth chart.

QB- Joe Milton (RSSr.), Tayven Jackson (RSFr.), Nico Iamaleava (Fr.)
RB- Dylan Sampson (So.), Jaylen Wright (Jr.), Jabari Small (Sr.), Khalifa Keith (Fr.)
WR- Bru McCoy (RSJr.), Kaleb Webb (So.), Walker Merrill (Jr.)
WR- Ramel Keyton (Sr.), Chas Nimrod (So.), Nathan Leacock (Fr.)
WR- Squirrel White (So.), Cameron Seldon (Fr.), Nate Spillman (Fr.)
TE- Jacob Warren (RSSr.), Ethan Davis (Fr.)
RT- Jeremiah Crawford (Sr.), Dayne Davis (RSSr.), Shamurad Umarov (Fr.), Ayden Bussell (Fr.)
RG- Javontez Spraggins (Sr.), Masai Reddick (RSFr.), Vysen Lang (Fr.)
C- Cooper Mays (Sr.), Jackson Lampley (RSJr.)
LG- Addison Nichols (So.), Maurice Clipper, Jr. (RSFr.)
LT- Gerald Mincey (RSJr.), RJ Perry (RSJr.), Brian Grant (RSFr.)

SDE- Tyler Baron (Sr.), Tyre West (So.), Dominic Bailey (RSJr.), Daevin Hobbs (Fr.)
DT- Kurot Garland (RSSr.), Bryson Eason (Sr.), Elijah Simmons (RSSr.), Jordan Phillips (RSFr.), Tyree Weathersby (Fr.), Nathan Robinson (Fr.)
DT- Omari Thomas (Sr.), Da’Jon Terry (RSSr.), Elijah Davis (Jr.), Jayson Jenkins (RSFr.), Trevor Duncan, (Fr.)
LEO- Joshua Josephs (So.), Roman Harrison (Sr.), James Pearce (So.), Chandavian Bradley (Fr.), Caleb Herring (Fr.)
MIKE- Juwan Mitchell (RSSr.), Jalen Smith (Fr.), Jeremiah Telendar (Fr.), Kwauze Garland (RSJr.)
WLB- Aaron Beasley (Sr.), Elijah Herring (So.), Kaleb Perry (RSFr.), Arion Carter (Fr.)
LCB- Warren Burrell (Sr.), Jordan Matthews (Fr.), Dee Williams (Sr.), Rickey Gibson (Fr.)
RCB- Brandon Turnage (RSJr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Jr.), Christian Harrison (RSFr.)
NB- Tamarion McDonald (Sr.), Christian Charles (Jr.), Christian Conyer (Fr.)
S- Doneiko Slaughter (Sr.), Andre Turrentine (RSSo.), Cameron Miller (RSFr.), Jack Luttrell (Fr.)
S- Wesley Walker (RSJr), Jourdan Thomas (So.), John Slaughter (Fr.), Sylvester Smith (Fr.)

K- JT Carver (RSSo.)
P- Jackson Ross (So.)
KOS- JT Carver (RSSo.)

KR-
PR- Dee Williams (Sr.)
LS- Matthew Salansky (RSSr.)

77 on scholarship (79 with projected additions)

Notes:

1) This roster and coinciding numbers account for some projected departures of guys with eligibility remaining who I'm not counting in the above numbers:: Amari McNeil, Jeremy Banks (NFL), Jalin Hyatt (NFL), Jaylen McCollough, William Parker, Miles Campbell. These are guys I think will move on for different reasons. Kwauze Garland or RJ Perry may be other ones, not sure...but I counted those two in the numbers for now.

2) The two names in italics, Elijah Davis and Arion Carter, are projected commitments. Obviously, Carter will be a tough pull, but I added he and Davis just to account for them if needed.

3) Do we have 85 to give? Did we reduce those with our self-imposed sanctions?

4) I didn't count Carver, Salensky, or Ross as scholarship guys because they're walk-ons. Have any of them earned scholarships?

If these numbers hold up, we have room for 7 portal additions. If Warren comes back, we only have room for 6, but I suspect that would mean UT would only take 1 TE transfer instead of 2. We may have 1 or 2 more (or less) leave than I project and we may not land one or both of Davis and Carter. But I suspect the numbers will be close to this.

I would break down the needs/takes from the portal as follows:

1 QB (only if it's a big fish like Hudson Card)
1 WR
1 OT
2 TE (1 if Warren returns)
1 CB
1 S

If we don't land a QB (or if more than I project leave, like Garland or Perry, or we don't land Carter and or Davis), we may use that spot on a RB. But I think we actually have enough there. We can get through the year with 4 scholarship RBs. Only 3 received meaningful minutes this season. Also, Seldon will be a hybrid RB/WR, so he makes 5. If we don't land Carter, I think we take a LB. If we do, I think we stand pat at LB.

Anyway, I thought it would help to visualize the roster, numbers, openings, and needs.
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Excellent analysis Sir!
 
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