Rucker: Lack of Plan B big concern for Vols

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17% Shooting?? Cmon Man! Ut should shoot 30% from 3, and that wins both games they just lost. WTH ? Give them a sedative!!
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
I think Rucker's take is correct. Last night's game should be a wake up call for Barnes. He needs to descide whether he can tolerate the losses that will come from such inconsistent perimeter shooting and free throw shooting, or he can try to design an alternative offense that will rely less on the 3 point shot and take his chances with that when the 3's aren't falling. When you look at the stats, Zeigler, James, and Bailey are the poorest 3 point shooters, especially James. Maybe they should be encpouraged to drive the more more and shoot it less. Vescovi has taken twice as many as anyone else, and his average is 36% - not bad - about what he did last year.. ON has the best accuracy, 60%, on limited sample size. Perhaps he should be taking more and some others take less. I don't see the upside with ON playing inside. Maybe he and JJJ should switch positions.

I also agree that an alternative to this offense should be one which has a dominant post player. But we don't have one of those. Fulky is a nice player inside, but he is skinny and gets pushed around. Last night he had a shot blocked right at the rim. He would be great if he was in tandem with a dominant big. Uros is not gonna be the guy. BHH must be cultivated to be that guy. There's no one else.
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Redesign the offense mid-season?
 
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cardvolfan said:
“Chucking up the threes” is what you said, which is a denigrating way of saying you’re stupid. “Encouraging our guys to keep taking their shots” is what Barnes said. That’s the way it should be said. I am not surprised you wouldn’t understand this.
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The point stands. If the team is going to go deep in to the tournament, they have to successfully switch from shooting threes to another strategy like drives to the basket if the 3s aren't working. Hopefully, this gets better as Chandler gets more seasoning.
 
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screenthis said:
The point stands. If the team is going to go deep in to the tournament, they have to successfully switch from shooting threes to another strategy like drives to the basket if the 3s aren't working. Hopefully, this gets better as Chandler gets more seasoning.
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They shot 3s. They drove to the basket and were rejected. They tried feeding the post players to back their defenders into the paint. The open looks at three were probably the highest probability to add points each time down the court. TT had an effective defense as did Barnes with the players he had on the floor.
 
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volfan4lyfe said:
Feel like quicker (and more effective) ball movement is the only way to play these teams. Seemed like we tried to let Chandler, Zeigler, and Vescovi try to move the ball with more dribbling that quick passing. Even then, we got PLENTY of open shots against Texas Tech, so I can't really fault Barnes's game plan. We got the open shots we needed to win.

Syracuse and Villanova had poor shooting games after us, so I can only imagine there's something funky going on with the rims/goals.
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Towards the end we did a great job of moving the ball to get open shots but by that time we were already psyched out from all the misses so we just kept missing. Most of the game we took questionable to bad shots from 3. The last few minutes we moved the ball well and worked it inside out to get open looks.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Towards the end we did a great job of moving the ball to get open shots but by that time we were already psyched out from all the misses so we just kept missing. Most of the game we took questionable to bad shots from 3. The last few minutes we moved the ball well and worked it inside out to get open looks.
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This. We only made a couple at the end of regulation when it was panic mode and there wasn’t any time to think.
 
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esarmstrong said:
The mid range shot is not even an option for this team. Hell, it wasn't an option for Texas Tech. One either takes a 3 or tries a layup/dunk. The three-point shot has ruined basketball.
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How many days has it been since this board was awash in posts celebrating Barnes “modernizing” the offense? I get whiplash with these takes.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I’m sure there are variations. The time to teach it all is finite and half the team are newcomers to the system.
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You have more excuses than Snyder has pups. We start a 6th year Senior and 3 Juniors along with one Of the best freshmen in the country. That’s not a “ newcomer” lineup
 
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Volfan1000 said:
Huntley-Hatfield can be that dominant Shaquille O' Neal prescence if he listens to the coaching staff and develops consistentcy on a nightly basis.
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Not sure BHH can be dominant this season but he could be our best post player if CRB would play him and get him some experience. We also have another top 100 player that could help us in the post sitting on the bench in Aidoo. For some reason, Barnes has trouble developing big men early in their careers. Let’s just hope these two dont hit the portal
 
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Against TTU, most of those 3 pt attempts were against a half court defense. We couldn’t or TTU wouldn’t let us push tempo. Those guys were grown men and out hustled us and were more physical than we were from the tip. We are better offensively when we attack and don’t allow the defense to get set. TTU’s size and length bothered Chandler from attacking. Last night we came out passive and despite open looks we couldn’t knock them down. We don’t have Grant Williams in the paint any longer. Fulkerson gets pushed around and often doesn’t want the ball. We simply lack a post presence.

That and a ridiculous FT % and multiple missed layups cost us just as much as the poor FG % from 3 pt line. Got to get tougher on the offensive end.
 
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kamoshika said:
December is the time to figure things out before you get to March, but Tennessee’s wildly inconsistent offense on these big stages has become a cause for major concern. Why is that the case? I don’t have the answer. But I’m not the one who needs the answer. Barnes and his staff and his players are the ones who need the answer.

Tennessee was 5-of-28 from three against Villanova, and it was 6-of-40 from three against Texas Tech. Two games totaling 11-of-68 — less than 17 percent — from behind the arc. [UT] also pulled down just 22 combined offensive rebounds in those two games. Do those seem like the kind of numbers you’d see from a team with a Plan B?

After Tuesday’s loss, Tennessee is ranked No. 1 nationally in adjusted defensive efficiency. Number One. Numero Uno. The best. That’s a hell of a sturdy platform for postseason success. As sturdy as it gets, statistically speaking. But it won’t matter if this team doesn’t find alternative plans on offense. And it definitely won’t matter if this team continues to seem tight offensively on big stages.
Rucker: Lack of Plan B big concern for No. 13 Vols
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They were simply more physical. The refs let them play. Definitely something that Barnes will address. I think this game makes us better.
 
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I read the title of the thread and was prepared to come in here and get all political and religious about plan B. Thanks for the info, but were gonna be ok. And its still great to be a Tennessee Vol!
 
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Honestly, in.my opinion, we have a great team that's figuring out how and when to utilize all the talent. Don't roast me but the football team did the same thing. They won one they should have, lost a close one, lost to guys that looked like bums, then, kept it close with a far superior team, outright lost badly then finished with some good wins and momentum at the end of the season, going g in hot for the post-season. We want our basket Vols to do like wise and work these kinks out early and get to the tournament on fire!
 
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Not sure why we shoot so many 3's! Also, what has happened to Fulky?? He is nonexistent on offense and missing easy shots around the basket.
 
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VFL1127 said:
Not sure why we shoot so many 3's! Also, what has happened to Fulky?? He is nonexistent on offense and missing easy shots around the basket.
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It might surprise you that he’s hitting 55% with all those being within 6-8 feet, essentially. All this while being hacked, fouled, pushed, undercut, elbowed, jostled, strong-armed, and abused. Sometimes our perceptions are not reality.
 
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I'm sure someone will come by and excuse Fulky due to Covid.

Fulky is a great VFL but he is just average post player. At this point just a hair better than ON. BHH will surpass him by Jan 1
 
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1985Vols said:
You have more excuses than Snyder has pups. We start a 6th year Senior and 3 Juniors along with one Of the best freshmen in the country. That’s not a “ newcomer” lineup
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Excuse? That’s a reply pointing out that putting in new defenses at this point isn’t going to be easy with 4 players in their first year getting a bunch of minutes. Defenses will break down with a single weak link. Your suggestion of having a senior, 3 juniors, and a good freshman is irrelevant. It lacks any logic. But I’m not surprised. You’re unrelenting criticism and obsession with Barnes is beyond bizarre.
 
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orangemadam said:
I'm sure someone will come by and excuse Fulky due to Covid.

Fulky is a great VFL but he is just average post player. At this point just a hair better than ON. BHH will surpass him by Jan 1
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I’m not seeing much want to with BHH. The light hadn’t come on yet IMO and Barnes has his hands full getting that kid to focus or buy in.
 
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