Running up the score in the NFL?

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Hoosier_Vol

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The Pats have been accused of it a few times this year and espicaly after yesterdays game. When your up 30-40 in the 3rd quater and not only playing your starters but going for it on 4th down you will get accused of this type of thing. Now there's two views here. One, they was running it up on them. Second point is it's up to the defense to stop them. What's your opinion on this? Either way I think it will possiably end up bitting the Pats if they keep doing it to teams. One of these games a lineman is going to get tired of it and lay a cheap shot on Mr. Brady.

P.S.: Does anyone remember when Peyton broke the TD record there was at least 4 games I remember where he didn't play a snap in the 4th quater of blow outs. They also wasn't throwing long td passes on 4th downs of blow outs.

No doubt the Pats are clearly the best team this year but the class they have shown is what upsets me....maybe it's just my bitterness for them comming out oh?
 
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Brady has been taken out in the fourth multiple times. It's the defense that's responsible for stopping them. Even Madden admitted in his coaching days he never even started thinking about it until the fourth quarter. I say this as a Redskins fan and having watched our D just get humiliated.
 
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It is the responsibility of the defense to stop the scoring. Leaving the starters in late when you have a huge lead is just stupid stat-padding IMO. When one or more get hurt as a result, you will hear a different tune from everybody.
 
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in the nfl, there's no such thing as "running up the score".

no one is trying get style points. you want to complain about something, complain about your defense not being able to stop 'em.

and i hate the pats.
 
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I have a problem with. I don't have a problem with being accused of it for a 'few' games. But when it's every freakin' team in the league - besides the Colts - then how can it be the defense's responsibility? If NO defense can stop them... how can you put it on the defense... it's not like the Pats have just played the worst defenses in the league several times and that's why there have been such lopsided victories.

I don't care either way - but I'm tired of hearing its the defense's responsibility when no defense is capable of stopping this offense... the best offense I've ever seen. And it would help if they didn't go for it on 4th down late in the game with Brady still in... then maybe people wouldn't mind.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
I have a problem with. I don't have a problem with being accused of it for a 'few' games. But when it's every freakin' team in the league - besides the Colts - then how can it be the defense's responsibility? If NO defense can stop them... how can you put it on the defense... it's not like the Pats have just played the worst defenses in the league several times and that's why there have been such lopsided victories.

I don't care either way - but I'm tired of hearing its the defense's responsibility when no defense is capable of stopping this offense... the best offense I've ever seen. And it would help if they didn't go for it on 4th down late in the game with Brady still in... then maybe people wouldn't mind.
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So what do you expect the offense to do? Oh! Let me just stand here and take a sack!!! Or here you go hand off the ball and run in slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow mode. Right. Its going to be one heck of a boring game if the team just stands still, lets bring the action and see it.
 
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And you guys that aren't for it can't honestly tell me if it was your team you would be saying hey team, lets stop scoring. I would be excited if my team were actually able to do that, no matter what players are in the lineup, enjoying the team scoring, winning, and having fun is all that matters, and if that includes 70 points, so be it.
 
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volwindy said:
And you guys that aren't for it can't honestly tell me if it was your team you would be saying hey team, lets stop scoring. I would be excited if my team were actually able to do that, no matter what players are in the lineup, enjoying the team scoring, winning, and having fun is all that matters, and if that includes 70 points, so be it.
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No - it's called run the ball for more than 10 times a game. How bout be decent and kick a field goal on 4th and short when you're up by 40 instead of throwing it to Randy Moss in the endzone?

How bout add a running back to your roster instead of making hollywood throw a bomb every single play?

I'm not really going to take your opinion into consideration here though, no offense, since you're a Tom Brady lover of course it will be biased... as well as the other few Pat fans on here. Maybe they can learn from the Colts a few years ago who had an unstoppable passing game and wrecked through the first part of their schedule. The had the capability of running up the score like the Pats - but they didn't. They ran it with Edge to get the game over faster. Manning could have set a higher TD record if they had tried. It's obvious street clothes Bill wants to wreck any and every record in the NFL right now with no consideration for his team's health for the playoffs. I just hope it comes back to bite him then some will think differently about the issue.
 
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i'm not a pats fan by any means. I just know brady is good, so i made sure he was my fantasy qb. But you can't fault him for not having running backs. If maroney and morris were healthy, they'd have more of a running game.
 
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So? They have people that can run the ball when they are up by 35+. I don't care if he's superstar material or not. They just refuse to.

It's obvious Bill wants that record a lot more than Brady does.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
So? They have people that can run the ball when they are up by 35+. I don't care if he's superstar material or not. They just refuse to.

It's obvious Bill wants that record a lot more than Brady does.
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well i think some of it might deal with beating Peyton's single season TD record, not necessarily the 17-0 record, as far as Bill is concerned by keeping Brady in. I didn't hear any complaints about Peyton always being in, of course he didn't have the D that the Pats have and usually needed to be in.
 
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Peyton's teams never won 56-10 or worse. And when he was in he wasn't throwing in a blowout, just handing it off James.
 
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again though, he had james to hand off to. not a bad idea even in a close game. brady has nothing left but no one's ever heard of fullbacks. and i just can't buy your theory that it's happening to every team. It's still not the Pats fault. They can't just fold like a cheap tent. Play hard for 60 minutes on both sides of the ball.
 
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volfanbill said:
i'm not a pats fan by any means. I just know brady is good, so i made sure he was my fantasy qb. But you can't fault him for not having running backs. If maroney and morris were healthy, they'd have more of a running game.
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That's a good point, but the Pats really didn't have great running backs in some of their other years. Kevin Faulk is a dynamic guy, but not really an every down back. Antowain Smith just isn't that great. I think those guys were the running backs for the second Super Bowl run. The Pats didn't run it all that much then. However, Brady threw a TON of short passes to supplement the lack of a running game. The Eagles used to do the same thing. It seems like these days they could just go to some short sure-fire completion passes to kill clock late in the game. I don't know. I didn't see much of the game yesterday. Maybe they did that.
 
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They managed to handoff to a white FB and get like 10 YPC. Why not do that earlier? I don't care hand off to the punter.

It's not about how good the person is that's running the ball. At that point anyone can get 5 YPC because the defense is pretty much demoralized at that point. Heck, put the freakin' punter in and you can get a few first downs and run the clock.

And yes - it is happening with every team, except the Colts.
 
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i know the backup QB played a SIGNIFICANT amount in the fourth yesterday. I also know that I've seen peyton going downfield many many times when they could've just run out the clock with running plays.
 
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volfanbill said:
i know the backup QB played a SIGNIFICANT amount in the fourth yesterday. I also know that I've seen peyton going downfield many many times when they could've just run out the clock with running plays.
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No - that's just wrong.

Even if it was true.. how far is downfield? And was the score a 46 point game? No.

And Bill won't take Brady out till he eclipses his 5 TDs per game... even in a huge blowout in the 4th quarter.
 
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volfanbill said:
i know the backup QB played a SIGNIFICANT amount in the fourth yesterday. I also know that I've seen peyton going downfield many many times when they could've just run out the clock with running plays.
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Hmmm. Maybe. I know a lot of fans were getting mad because he wasn't passing for the endzone late in games when he was on the cusp of breaking the TD record. At the end of the Ravens game, he had like 47 or 48 TDs and took on knee on the Ravens' 20 yard line. The crowd was booing.
 
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I've seen peyton go 20-30 yards downfield when the game didn't matter anymore. What's worse than that IMO is watching peyton trying to air it out with the game on the line and all the colts need to do is melt the clock. But instead of running it, peyton will pass. Eventually he's going to go 3 and out and the other team is going to march down the field and score. If you want to say that's not true, look at the Cincy game.
 
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volfanbill said:
I've seen peyton go 20-30 yards downfield when the game didn't matter anymore. What's worse than that IMO is watching peyton trying to air it out with the game on the line and all the colts need to do is melt the clock. But instead of running it, peyton will pass. Eventually he's going to go 3 and out and the other team is going to march down the field and score. If you want to say that's not true, look at the Cincy game.
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Games aren't 56-10. Point settled. You cannot compare the two circumstances AT ALL, it's not even close.

Either way... doesn't matter.. Bill is an arrogant prick and and will do his own thing and will piss everyone off in the process. Best thing us 'haters' can hope for is it back fires on 'em.
 
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volfanbill said:
I've seen peyton go 20-30 yards downfield when the game didn't matter anymore. What's worse than that IMO is watching peyton trying to air it out with the game on the line and all the colts need to do is melt the clock. But instead of running it, peyton will pass. Eventually he's going to go 3 and out and the other team is going to march down the field and score. If you want to say that's not true, look at the Cincy game.
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What Cincy game? Last year or something? I dunno about that. I can actually see why he might do that. The Bengals have a potent offense. If the Colts are only up a single score, there's probably a justifiable reason for looking for more points. Buffalo's offense doesn't scare my high school's defense.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Games aren't 56-10. Point settled. You cannot compare the two circumstances AT ALL, it's not even close.

Either way... doesn't matter.. Bill is an arrogant prick and and will do his own thing and will piss everyone off in the process. Best thing us 'haters' can hope for is it back fires on 'em.
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Best case scenario for me would be for the Pats to win every game and lose the Super Bowl. Not just lose but get blown out. Play their worst game and the opponent play their best. Poetic justice.
 
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Consider me in the "these people are professionals" camp.

However, I feel that karma will get to the Pats, and Tom Brady will get some sort of injury during the fourth quarter of a playoff game.
 
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