Rasputin_Vol
"Slava Ukraina"
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considering the civil war started with the people's issues with him, I would say its a pretty big topic.
considering the civil war started with the people's issues with him, I would say its a pretty big topic.
It wasn't the people. It was a handful of "moderate rebels" that were backed by US interests that had an issue with Assad. The only ones calling for Assad to step down are ISIS, the Free Syrian Army, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel and the US. The people of Syria had already spoken when they had elections several years ago.
The only people fighting to oust Assad are western funded mercenaries...Not the Syrian people...
The multiple lies that our government has conditioned Americans with about Assad, Saddam, Gaddafi, ISIS, Al Queda, etc., have been exposed to the anyone paying just halfway attention...
you mean to tell me that Saddam wasn't using the gas weapons we supplied to kill his own people? And neither was Assad? Because thats what I remember being told by our government, sure they want to leave off the part that they supplied them; but it doesn't lessen the fact that the three people you mentioned were killing their own population.
and I have broken down who has been fighting before and the reasons for it. Hafez ran a crony system, Bashar runs a crony system. Hafez's cronys were in the military and or from the poor areas, Bashar is pretty liberal comparatively and his guys are from the city. Hafez had the support of the people because he took care of them. Bashar pissed that away when it came to the drought and other things. When Bashar started replacing military leaders things got rough. and the whole time Bashar is jailing tons of people including a lot of military leaders. because Bashar wasn't financially supporting the military regiments aligned with Hafez's boys they broke up and went home and a good number did turn to terrorism in Iraq and we got to fight them.
well after the people had enough of the crap the main prison was raided by these ex-military still in Syria, who had been sitting on their hands getting more and more pissed off with Bashar, and they freed their people who started the rebellion en-masse. now Bashar captures a good number of these guys and re-imprisons them. but damage done, the civil war was started.
now because the vast majority of the good quality regiments were in rebels hands, is it strange that people didn't like being wrongfully imprisoned, Bashar starts losing ground massively. all over the place. even the units that don't turn on him often won't fight their own country men and brothers in arm. and things start looking really grim. this is when Bashar gets desperate enough to call for American help specifically but we ignore him, as does the rest of the international world; he gets to sleep in the bed he made. (probably should have stayed that way)
now somehow a lot of those prisoners that were recaptured and some others, including Syrian nationals the US had captured in Iraq working for Al-Queda (remember Bush and Obama giving away prisoners, yeah those guys). but now the old military guys are pissed their budies didn't come back for them and wouldn't accept them into their rebellion. so the ex-prisoners "escape" into Iraq with official paper from Bashar, hmmm how did they get that.
They find the left overs of Al-Queda in Iraq and join them and a lot of the prisoners quickly take up leadership positions. Remember this is where a lot of Syrians went after Bashar stopped supporting them. dissatisfied with how they are operating in Iraq, with the lack of support because we were buying tribes people in Iraq. they get up and leave. and unlike the situation in Iraq, the people were pissed and already under armed rebellion in Syria and they become ISIS.
now they quickly expand but this group now in Syria under go a massive leadership fight and Al-Nusra splits off, but ISIS keeps most of the power. the fight was over philosophy issues inside the camp, just how "Islamic" was this bunch going to be. Al Nusra is/was still pretty driven by their faith but not like the crazy guys. and its inferred that the divide was over how to treat the Muslims under them that aren't with them. Nusra says peaceful ISIS says join us or die, thus the fight.
and the rest, as they say, is history.
I'm telling you that Saddam was a US/Israeli funded and backed asset in his war with Iran. He failed in his attempt to overthrow the Iranian regime. Subsequently, he was demonized for his inability to do this(the west getting a toe hold in iran), thus put on the proverbial chopping block leading to outrageous propagated lies in order to oust him. Granted, Saddam, by no means was without wrong doing, but the chemical weapons stuff is nothing but utter deceit on behalf of the west in order to thieve territory in the ME on the Iranian border...
Going back to the USSR invasion of Afghanistan, the large majority of resistant/rebel forces have been founded, funded and maintained by the US/Israeli alliance...
The same proxy wars are being fought today. The allies of Russia are cross haired in order to induce global domination by Israel and it's American pets and army...
you mean to tell me that Saddam wasn't using the gas weapons we supplied to kill his own people? And neither was Assad? Because thats what I remember being told by our government, sure they want to leave off the part that they supplied them; but it doesn't lessen the fact that the three people you mentioned were killing their own population.
The strikes, which the U.S. says killed some New Syrian Army troops, occurred about six miles from the Jordanian border, according to a U.S. defense official. The U.S. diverted armed FA-18s to the area after the first round of two strikes, and the pilots then tried to call the Russians on a previously agreed-upon pilot-to-pilot communications channel but did not receive an answer.
As soon as the U.S. jets left the area to refuel, the Russians came back for another round of bombing, the defense official said.
Yeah, you can't believe what our govt and their media puppets say. The gassing of Syrians by Assad was debunked a long time ago and pinned on the FSA...
Department officials expressed strong concerns about the attack on the coalition-supported counter-ISIL forces at the At-Tanf garrison, which included forces that are participants in the cessation of hostilities in Syria, and emphasized that those concerns would be addressed through ongoing diplomatic discussions on the cessation of hostilities,"
its all America holding up the peace talks.Russian aircraft have not been active in this area of Southern Syria for some time, and there were no Syrian regime or Russian ground forces in the vicinity," a senior defense official said. "Russia's latest actions raise serious concern about Russian intentions. We will seek an explanation from Russia on why it took this action and assurances this will not happen again."
U.S. officials are watching the situation closely. Asked about the strikes Friday, Defense Secretary Ash Carter said it raised questions about whether the Russians were actually in Syria to fight Islamic extremists.
"Here's a case where they actually attacked forces that were fighting ISIL. And if that was their intention, that's the opposite of what they said they were going to do," Carter said. "If not, then it says something about the quality of the information upon which they make airstrikes."
Wait... bullying is not an option? Bullying has been the US's foreign policy since who knows when.
Joe Biden to rip Donald Trump: Bullying is not a foreign policy - CNNPolitics.com
Late Thursday evening, the Wall Street Journal reported, 51 State Department officials signed a statement condemning U.S. policy in Syria in which they repeatedly call for targeted military strikes against the Damascus government and urging regime change as the only way to defeat Islamic State.
In a meeting with President Obama on Friday, Saudi foreign minister Adel al Jubair asserted, Saudi Arabia supports a more aggressive military approach in Syria to get Assad to agree to a political solution, as CBS Mark Knoller tweeted.
Disgruntled politicians eager to overthrow Assad thus also carrying out Saudi goals can now facilely flip the script to assert deposing the Syrian government is necessary in the fight against everyones enemy, the Islamic State.
I thought this was cleared up. sounds like it wasn't.
US urges action over 'Syrian chemical attacks' - BBC News
report finds that both Syria and ISIS have used chemical weapons. no idea if this the same report, different one or what, but it seemed relevant.
Why in the HELL would any leader, of any country, use chemical weapons on their own people? What purpose or good would that do?.... Knowing that would give the green light to countries wanting to overthrow him...