Russian nuclear disaster...maybe?

#127
#127
Mick said:
Ok nerd. lol. Does is provide an advantage against our detection and defenses as far as you know?
Click to expand...

As mentioned, it allows it to fly a less predictable path due to unlimited range. It can be programmed to choose flight paths that more easily avoid radars. So yes, it is more difficult to target, but cruise missiles in themselves are difficult to find in ground clutter and the nap of the earth anyways.

The hypersonic cruise missile is more easily seen as it flies at high altitude, but compresses the reaction time of the defenses because it is so fast. Either variety is difficult, just if you want to go fast and seen or slow and unseen.

Now a subsonic earth hugging stealthy cruise missile is fearsome, like the nuke one below. There are different degrees of stealth though and we have JASSM, which is tactical and low observable.



agm-129-advanced-cruise-missile-001.jpg
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • Like
Reactions: NurseGoodVol and Mick
#129
#129
Orangeburst65 said:
As mentioned, it allows it to fly a less predictable path due to unlimited range. It can be programmed to choose flight paths that more easily avoid radars. So yes, it is more difficult to target, but cruise missiles in themselves are difficult to find in ground clutter and the nap of the earth anyways.

The hypersonic cruise missile is more easily seen as it flies at high altitude, but compresses the reaction time of the defenses because it is so fast. Either variety is difficult, just if you want to go fast and seen or slow and unseen.

Now a subsonic earth hugging stealthy cruise missile is fearsome, like the nuke one below. There are different degrees of stealth though and we have JASSM, which is tactical and low observable.



View attachment 217789
Click to expand...
I hope this explosion set them back a bit. By looking at the videos, it looked like there had been multiple explosions before the big one then the video of the munitions explosion after.
 
#130
#130
Hunerwadel said:
Please explain.
Click to expand...

My apologies Hunder and Mick as I cannot confirm. I saw a weapons expert on TV comment this evening say that due to the shape it was probably not hypersonic. He was an institutional guy, not a typical TV military commentator and was the first to mention "not hypersonic". Shown on post 105 is a supposed picture, but makes we question the validity of his statement. It looks to be air breathing and exhaust plume exits non aft and well up the fuselage. The inlet does not particularly look like a ramjet, although it is a poor pic and may not even actually be it. Below is a US ramjet and a US rocket powered hypersonic missile.

Now, doing some research this missile is really unknown. If it is hypersonic ramjet, it would need to fly at minimum of 60K' as referenced in my post the other day. If ramjet air breathing, maybe it fits under the ABM umbrella and probably outruns SAM's like THADD. Let me know if you find anything that confirms.

As mentioned before by someone, they would have to get it working first, and even then we still have our nuclear Triad deterrence.

9M730 Burevestnik - Wikipedia

9ba9a8da9f6b344cd28a847c59498966.jpg
hyper-sonic.jpg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Mick
#136
#136
Trump and Putin working overtime to tale minds off Mueller report, testifying. Its worked.
 
#138
#138
I guess not.

U.S. Tests Missile With A Range Prohibited By Now-Abandoned Treaty

1000w_q95_wide-55583c22632a58f2fd87d8aaa8d98e06d00026b7-s800-c85.jpg
 
#139
#139
ClearwaterVol said:
Why did this missile have a nuke payload if it was just a test fire?
Click to expand...

During tests It wouldn't have a nuke payload such as in a bomb but it would have a nuclear reactor on board. What makes it fly is the reactor superheats fuel (probably hydrogen) that has been injected into a chamber similar to what is found in a rocket engine. This causes a (supposedly) controlled but continuous explosion of the hydrogen inside the chamber and the rocket rides on the ejecta. For all intents and purposes it is a nuclear powered rocket.

I'm no physicist but from what I've read this is the way I understand it.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: SmokyRiverDog and ClearwaterVol
#146
#146
lawgator1 said:
Trump said Putin strongly denies anything happened. Science says otherwise but it's fake science.
Click to expand...

BREAKING NEWS: Photo of control button for new Russian rocket being obtained by Lavrov. Putin sent an email requesting the instruction manual, but the email mysteriously vanished. Stay tuned.
Clinton Reset Button.jpg
 
#147
#147
TheColdVolTruth said:
BREAKING NEWS: Photo of control button for new Russian rocket being obtained by Lavrov. Putin sent an email requesting the instruction manual, but the email mysteriously vanished. Stay tuned.
View attachment 219113
Click to expand...

Just imagine what that cheap button would go for on eBay with verification paperwork.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheColdVolTruth
#149
#149
For goodness sake, are there any nuclear engineers on VN? If so, could you please explain to the masses how a "nuclear powered rocket" is all but unachievable...as, apparently, the Russians just proved? Google "nuclear-powered aircraft", and read about that abortive experiment. Of course, you don't have to worry about shielding with a nuke powered rocket, since there won't be any humans onboard.

The Soviets / Russians have played fast and loose with fission and fusion energy for decades, and history is full of examples of "when they got it wrong". This is simply the latest example. Since this wasn't a sub that sank, they'll just pour concrete on it until the radiation surveys reach "background level".....well, by their standards.

All the same, I'd be hinky about eating anything that came from a farm or fishery within 100 or so miles from this latest "glitch" for the next, say...50 years?

And buy on the iodine market. Big right now, especially in Europe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: RavinDave, Orange_Vol1321 and volfanhill
#150
#150
Just watching AHC about the new shell that was put over the waste that was Chernobyl #4. 1.6b to build the largest movable shell, was donated by several nations to deal with the problem.
They are now giving dark tours in that area. Any tour that comes with a radiation detector, count me out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Orange_Vol1321 and DynaLo
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top