Sanders Campaign Russian Collusion

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Mick said:
Socialized health care is not radical. Free tuition for people going into public service is not radical. Asking foreign countries to interfere in our elections is radical. Firing people for telling the truth is radical. Dismantling the IC is radical.
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It is not free. You pay taxes.
 
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Mick said:
Socialized health care is not radical. Free tuition for people going into public service is not radical. Asking foreign countries to interfere in our elections is radical. Firing people for telling the truth is radical. Dismantling the IC is radical.
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Radical is usually used as a pejorative, but it's not necessarily a pejorative. In this case, it aptly describes Bernie, and you can own it or deny it.

Radical means one supports far-reaching reform, so Bernie is definitely more of a radical than Trump. Asking a foreign country to interfere in elections is a potential method for achieving radical ends, but the action itself is not radical. Transforming our health care system by definition would be radical because it is a far-reaching reform. Same goes for free tuition for public service (already 15% of the labor force).
 
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n_huffhines said:
Radical is usually used as a pejorative, but it's not necessarily a pejorative. In this case, it aptly describes Bernie, and you can own it or deny it.

Radical means one supports far-reaching reform, so Bernie is definitely more of a radical than Trump. Asking a foreign country to interfere in elections is a potential method for achieving radical ends, but the action itself is not radical. Transforming our health care system by definition would be radical because it is a far-reaching reform. Same goes for free tuition for public service (already 15% of the labor force).
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Our healthcare system is a mess and needs reform. Apparently anything against the status quo is radical. Wholesale tariffs on foreign imports is radical.
 
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Mick said:
Our healthcare system is a mess and needs reform. Apparently anything against the status quo is radical. Wholesale tariffs on foreign imports is radical.
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No. Not anything, but yes, what Bernie is proposing is radical. We do need radical reform, he's just going the completely wrong direction with it.
 
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n_huffhines said:
No. Not anything, but yes, what Bernie is proposing is radical. We do need radical reform, he's just going the completely wrong direction with it.
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I will disagree about direction, radical maybe. What would you like to see happen with healthcare?
 
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Mick said:
Socialized health care is not radical. Free tuition for people going into public service is not radical. Asking foreign countries to interfere in our elections is radical. Firing people for telling the truth is radical. Dismantling the IC is radical.
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You e almost convinced yourself that voting for a socialist is a good thing . I love it . Lol
 
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0nelilreb said:
You tell me , does a US president ever bow to a king ? If not why ?
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Mick said:
I will disagree about direction, radical maybe. What would you like to see happen with healthcare?
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Without getting too deep in the weeds on this, the fundamental problem with health care is lack of competition. Any policy that doesn't promote competition is not addressing the root of the problem. Bernie has few, if any, ideas that promote competition, and his ideas are unaffordable.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Without getting too deep in the weeds on this, the fundamental problem with health care is lack of competition. Any policy that doesn't promote competition is not addressing the root of the problem. Bernie has few, if any, ideas that promote competition, and his ideas are unaffordable.
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The root problem is that even with decades of education Americans don't take care of themselves. The leftists actually think free healthcare will somehow make them not obese, not get cancer, STDs, pregnant, etc. They are literally that dim.
 
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Mick said:
Our healthcare system is a mess and needs reform. Apparently anything against the status quo is radical. Wholesale tariffs on foreign imports is radical.
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No, I'd like to go with a radical idea on reforming our healthcare system.

Do away with comprehensive healthcare plans in favor of major medical/catastrophic plans. What we would call high deductible plans now.
Let providers refuse service to those that can't pay.

Both are radical ideas yet preserve individual choice and would reduce costs unlike Bernie's plan.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Without getting too deep in the weeds on this, the fundamental problem with health care is lack of competition. Any policy that doesn't promote competition is not addressing the root of the problem. Bernie has few, if any, ideas that promote competition, and his ideas are unaffordable.
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All in all there is not that much competition. Before Obamacare most companies bounced around from insurance companies to insurance companies increasing premiums and reducing benefits. In the end you were still paying for the healthcare poor people got. Healthcare providers know you can't get blood out of a turnip but they do compensate by passing on the cost to those that do have insurance. IMO if you can take that burden off of insurance companies and healthcare providers cost will go down. If amount saved is greater than the tax increase the individual is doing better. Admitted I'm not that familiar with the exact details of his plan.
 
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