Originally posted by volmanjr@Sep 6, 2005 4:45 PM
How many fire Sanders threads does this make? got a count Freak? (probably not as many of these as there are qb threads)
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Originally posted by ncvol@Sep 6, 2005 1:27 PM
Kiddiedoc, Calm down!!! If you will read through this thread I have never said anything about being too conservative, other maybe but not me!!! I said I was not bashing only curious. I have gotten civil responses to my questions from other but not you. I don't need that and neither does the board. If reading this gets your dander up so much maybe this is not the place for you. Read for understanding and make sure you respond appropriately to other's questions and don't mistake one poster for another, thanks!
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Originally posted by kiddiedoc@Sep 6, 2005 6:02 PM
You asked for an opinion, and this is a message board, so I felt free to express my frustration with some of the comments made to this point. Perhaps if my stating how I feel on a free-speech internet board bothers you, then "maybe this is not the place for you."
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Sep 6, 2005 4:16 PM
It's insane that everyone wants to fire Sanders but I haven't seen one mention of Pat Washington. Isn't is his job to make sure the receivers are prepared?
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Originally posted by orangetd88@Sep 6, 2005 2:19 PM
The problem has already been mentioned, but apparently needs to be stated again...we couldn't move the ball very well because we had no deep threat. UAB was not scared of us going deep. Therefor, after the first quarter, they stacked the box, and we couldn't run. It didn't help that the receivers were dropping easy balls when they were open. Sure, those 5-6 yard outs are somewhat boring, but completing those would have helped some. We couldn't even complete those for a time.
Will that change? It should, but who knows. It might not. I don't think that we'll play as bad in 2 weeks. I could be wrong, however.
I heard alot of people complaining about the defense. I thought the d played pretty well. Sure, there were blown coverages, and Wade got beat badly on their td. But the d tackled extremely well, better than they have in a long time.
IMO, we will be OK. Are we a top 5 team right now? No, but there is potential there. Whether they live up to that potential, I dunno. We'll begin to find out on 09/17.
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Sep 6, 2005 5:16 PM
It's insane that everyone wants to fire Sanders but I haven't seen one mention of Pat Washington. Isn't is his job to make sure the receivers are prepared?
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Originally posted by mikey@Sep 5, 2005 3:53 PM
Which plays, specifically, would you eliminate? Name them and tell me why you would eliminate each one. Name me the 4 plays you would run and tell me why you'd run it and out of which formations you'd run it. And tell me how it is that we are doing such a terrible job when Phillip has won over 80% of his games since taking over.
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Originally posted by GAVol@Sep 6, 2005 9:32 PM
A couple of things: First, I think you have to be able to run between the guards, if for no other reason than to keep the defense honest. I understand what you are saying about trapping, but it seems to me that trapping is increasingly difficult due to athletic defenses and the fact that we were running a 3rd string center out there.
Got to give you credit though. Whether I agree with you or not, you do come with something that makes a heck of a lot more sense than the typical playcall bashers that oversimplify everything and automatically blame the coaches every time a play breaks down. It's nice to hear somebody complain about playcalling and offer something other than a reurgitated phrase they heard from a washed up color commentator.
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Originally posted by T_man_J@Sep 6, 2005 10:12 PM
First of all I would eliminate every play that calls for the 3 back running in the 3, 1, 2, or 4 hole if the blocking scheme was a zone (or head's up). I would do this because our offensive line are getting stood up by the defense. Our linemen are actually standing up too early out of the three-point stance (look at the video).
Now for my plays. I would start each game with traps on the inside like an I LEFT 31 TRAP and an I RIGHT 32 TRAP. I would do this because this allows the center and one guard to double-team one d tackle; it allows the other guard to pull and trap block the other d-tackle (God knows that we need angles to get good blocks).
Now for the coaching magic. I would coach up the QB to look for the linebackers crowding the line (that's the only way they could stop the interior traps); when he sees this, the QB would be instructed to audible off to a sweep trap (like an I LEFT 39 SWEEP TRAP or an I RIGHT 38 SWEEP TRAP). The right or left variation would be depending on the position of the defensive backfield.
The defense has two ways to stop the SWEEP TRAP. They can spread the d-line (or use linebackers) to try to get containment or they can bring up the safeties for run support. Again, I would coach up the QB to look for this d adjustment. If the safties come up for run support I would have the QB audible off to either an X or Y post passing play (depending on which safety was in run-support position) with special instructions for the X (or Y) receiver to get his rear end behind the safety. Just to ensure the QB had options (or progressions) I would go ahead and assign passing routes for the other receivers (and maybe the 3 back also, something like SLOT RIGHT 586 H-SWING), but the QB's first read would be the posting receiver.
Now here comes the magic again. If the defensive just spreads out or tries to use the linebackers for corner containment, the QB would audible off to the interior traps; the whole dang process starts over.
See guys, football ain't rocket science.
Now for your last question. PF is a good coach and an excellent recruiter. The problem is he never breaks out the good stuff early in the season because he assumes that other teams will develop an effective counter. If players are not allowed to practice the "good stuff" under game conditions, they will never perfect the execution on the play. So our guys run these goofy running plays into an 8-man box; completely loose their motivation and confidence.
I apologize for this long post (sometimes I get carried away).
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Originally posted by Vol67@Sep 6, 2005 8:14 PM
No one talks about Washington because he is untouchable.
Washington's wife and Fulmer's wife are best friends
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Originally posted by milohimself@Sep 4, 2005 8:18 PM
I know... Fulmer is still a great coach, and an .800 over a decade doesn't just happen. But I would expect more than 2 conference championships in that time period. I suspect the answer is that Spurrier had our number, but I'm not too sure.
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Originally posted by Johnny_Majors@Sep 8, 2005 10:02 PM
THE REAL WAY YOU GET THIS TEAM FIRED UP IS TO TAKE SOME OF MIKE' HARD LEMONADE AND YOU MIX IT IN THE LEMON LIME GATORADE AT HALFTIME.
IT WORKS EVERYTIME FOR ME. Phil NEVER DID LISTEN TO ANYTHING I TOLD HIM.
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