Sanders is the problem
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volmanjr
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I would hope that players that we recruit could handle more than 4 plays, and how long would it take the entire SEC to figure out how to stop these 4 plays? The fundementals should be the same with every play wether you run 4 or 40. Blocking is blocking, and route running is route running, and catching the friggin' ball is catching the ball no matter what play is called. This game was not bad coaching it was poor execution and a team that thought it was wrapped up after the first 10 minutes, but suprise UAB didn't think it was over.
All this stuff about bringing David back is stupid. Ten years ago everyone said the same thing about the offense when he was calling it and they said the same thing before that when Phillip was calling it. The bottom line is this...it's Phillip's offense. It's the same offense we ran when he called it...it's the same thing we ran when David called it...and it's the same thing with Randy calling it. Most of the people bitching about the offense can't watch a play and tell you the name of it anyway, so if it's all the same to all of you we're just gonna call the same offense...run the same plays...and keep winning 9 or 10 games year in and year out which is more than you can say for any other team in the country. Yes...USC is good NOW...but a few years from now Pete Carroll will move on and they'll start over. Fla.St. is on a down slide now...Miami's been up and down. Name me a team who has been as consistent as us over the last 15 years and I'll show you a team who does what Phillip does best....recruit and show loyalty and consistency with his staff.
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Again, I don't understand how the game plan was so bad when we moved the ball so well WHEN THE PLAYERS EXECUTED. If we could not catch wide open 15 yard passes how in the hell would chucking the ball into 2 deep coverage help? If there are no dropped passes or overthrown balls we win that game by at least 30, so this bad game plan argument holds no water. Will that work against FLA? probably not, but this was not FLA it was UAB. Things will open up in 2 weeks, just wait.
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QUOTE(TNFanBornandRaised @ Sep 5, 2005 12:15 PM)
disregard the overthrows, etc., look squarely on the playcalling its miserable anyone that says otherwise obviously doesnt watch anyone but UT play football.....We have ONE of the most talented rosters in football and we underacheive on offense.....Nearly any coordinator but sanders would help us.....imagine if Cutcliffe came back.....you mean to tell me you cant see a difference from when he was here to now with Sanders? of course you can.....in fact our numbers slid every year until last year.........sanders calls those screen passes that I know are coming when the play starts...we have NO creativity on offense whatsoever.......face it, Sanders has no business being a coordinator in college
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What would you run? Tell me the name of the specific plays you'd run...out of what formations and why.
Getting a bit big for your britches aint ya? Instead of just disagreeing you bring my football knowledge into question....good job.....First off they played with 8 in the box and crowded the run.....tell me what you would do.....you prove you can throw the ball until they respect it....as for formations.....if a team is talented enough they can run from 3 formations all game with motions and never miss a beat.....your missing the point here.....sanders will not take any chances whatsoever......EVERYONE KNOWS WHATS WE'RE RUNNING......my friend you have to adapt before the defense adapts.....ever hear of a guy named Charlie Weis up at Notre Dame? Ever watch a Patriots game? he will throw on running downs and run and passing downs......he will throw 5 wide at ya and dink and dunk you to death or he'll bring in 3 Te's and pound the ball down your throat in the same game......If you tell me that sanders is even on the same continent as Norm Chow, Charlie Weis, your hugely mistaken......Put a real coordinator at the helm and see what happens at UT
disregard the overthrows, etc., look squarely on the playcalling its miserable anyone that says otherwise obviously doesnt watch anyone but UT play football.....We have ONE of the most talented rosters in football and we underacheive on offense.....Nearly any coordinator but sanders would help us.....imagine if Cutcliffe came back.....you mean to tell me you cant see a difference from when he was here to now with Sanders? of course you can.....in fact our numbers slid every year until last year.........sanders calls those screen passes that I know are coming when the play starts...we have NO creativity on offense whatsoever.......face it, Sanders has no business being a coordinator in college
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What would you run? Tell me the name of the specific plays you'd run...out of what formations and why.
Getting a bit big for your britches aint ya? Instead of just disagreeing you bring my football knowledge into question....good job.....First off they played with 8 in the box and crowded the run.....tell me what you would do.....you prove you can throw the ball until they respect it....as for formations.....if a team is talented enough they can run from 3 formations all game with motions and never miss a beat.....your missing the point here.....sanders will not take any chances whatsoever......EVERYONE KNOWS WHATS WE'RE RUNNING......my friend you have to adapt before the defense adapts.....ever hear of a guy named Charlie Weis up at Notre Dame? Ever watch a Patriots game? he will throw on running downs and run and passing downs......he will throw 5 wide at ya and dink and dunk you to death or he'll bring in 3 Te's and pound the ball down your throat in the same game......If you tell me that sanders is even on the same continent as Norm Chow, Charlie Weis, your hugely mistaken......Put a real coordinator at the helm and see what happens at UT
I agree.
As far as formations and plays, we could have had mismatches the entire game if we would have used 4 or 5 of our wide receivers and played with a single back or no back. I would have run that formation all game. They were in a 2 deep zone, flood one side of the zone every play with 3 receivers.
There is no way they can match up with us at wide reciever. Spreading the field like that we give Riggs some actual running room. I think his longest carry was 13 yards. He had no place to run.
Everybody in that stadium knew they could not run with us at wr. Thats why they played 2 deep zone.
As far as formations and plays, we could have had mismatches the entire game if we would have used 4 or 5 of our wide receivers and played with a single back or no back. I would have run that formation all game. They were in a 2 deep zone, flood one side of the zone every play with 3 receivers.
There is no way they can match up with us at wide reciever. Spreading the field like that we give Riggs some actual running room. I think his longest carry was 13 yards. He had no place to run.
Everybody in that stadium knew they could not run with us at wr. Thats why they played 2 deep zone.
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Did you ever stop and think that maybe we didnt stretch out the offense because we dont wanna give away everything were going to do in the swamp. Also this is the same Randy Sanders that called plays in the national championship game. And we have had success since then so to say after 8 years of consistant success that he's the problem is very rediculous.
First...all of this talk about spreading the field and throwing until they show they can stop it is predicated on one very important thing...THE RECEIVERS DON'T DROP EVERY DAMN THING YOU THROW TO THEM! If I'm defending us on Sat., I crowd the line too because the receivers were proving that they COULDN'T hurt them. It doesn't matter how fast or athletic the receivers are if they are running down the field with no ball in their hands. Calling a game is not about utopian scenarios. It's about adjusting to what is happening in the game. As far as bringing in another big time coordinator I'll tell you exactly what they would do...they'd run Phillip's offense the way he said run it.
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Suits me well! I wished the RS haters would direct their "Im a better OC" resume's to the AD and CPF for review. Im sure they would be very happy to put in a good word for you at SC and S.O.S.
ps. RS and CUT call/called from the same book, Its the one with the GREAT BIG T on it, it has not changed.
ps. RS and CUT call/called from the same book, Its the one with the GREAT BIG T on it, it has not changed.
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I still can't beleive some of these posts. IF WE CATCH THE BALL ON STAURDAY AND MAKE DECENT THROWS WE BLOW OUT UAB!!!!!!! The offensive problems had nothing to do with playcalling or UAB's defense. We did not need to spread anything out to win big, we just needed to EXECUTE! We are not going to pull everything out against UAB, especialy when we can't even catch short passes. I am not even a big RS fan, but he was not the one dropping the ball or throwing 5 feet over a WR's heads. And yes Weis and Chow are great coordinators, that is why one is a head coach at one of the most storied programs in football and the other is in the NFL...but guess what? Every team does not have to run that type of offense to win. This is Fulmer's system and it has not changed since Sanders got the job but I guess you are right, it does not work, I mean Fulmer only has the highest winning % of any active coach with 10 years experience or more so he must not know what he is doing. One of the best ways to use big, fast receivers is to throw a short pass and let him make something happen, and they had that chance Saturday but you HAVE TO CATCH THE BALL!!!! Things will be spread more in two weeks, you don't show everything in the first game. The plays we ran were plenty to just kill UAB IF WE EXECUTE!
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