Schaeffer-If I was there they would be a good team

#2
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makes you wonder... When you take a young kid and thrust him into the spotlight, he needs a strong mentor. I wonder if RS or PF were that person they way Weiss is for his starting QB... Sometimes it makes no difference, sometimes it does. makes you wonder...

Either way, it is sure gonna suck when he goes to florida. :shakehead:
 
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I wonder if that has anything to do with the QB situation? I wonder if there is just this popularity contest going on with players all following into different camps. Basically this team has turned into sides rather than a single and cohesive unit. Everyone has their favorites and preferences and makes that pblic knowledge rather than sacking up and playing as a team.

I'm curious if BS has looked at VT as well. I know he wants to walk right in to a program but his want for a compatible system and the availabilities at the moment aren't really panning out. Very few systems out there like working with the mobile QB in that fashion. I think that might be one reason he's not here in Knoxville anymore. I don't think Sanders and Fulmer know what to do with anything but a pocket passer. Who knows what would happen if the new OC came in and said we want him back. It could be the Saban/Williams situation. But only adding more QBs could cause more problems or headaches.....
 
#5
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too bad we can't argue the point...we do suck. he can say whatever he wants...if i were him, i'd be laughing my ass off. I don't know that he would help or not, but you got to admit, when it all shakes out for this year at least, you can't say EA was definitely the right choice...for the future of the program based on what he's done thus far.

Oh well, we'll put him in the category of AJ Suggs, Brandon Stuart, Chris Sims, Chris Leak.....none of them came back to haunt us...
 
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Suggs....memories....

I saw the boy play HS football. I hoped and prayed he'd go to UT. He was phenomenal. His stats, his state title in GA in the hardest class in the state, his ability to read the defenses, scramble, everything.....then came college....
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 14, 2005 2:30 PM
Suggs....memories....

I saw the boy play HS football. I hoped and prayed he'd go to UT. He was phenomenal. His stats, his state title in GA in the hardest class in the state, his ability to read the defenses, scramble, everything.....then came college....
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And UT player development!!
 
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Perhaps these players coming out of high school need to look at the system before committing. Suggs and Shaeffer are more roll out players not the typical drop back qb, and this simply is not the system for them.
I think players like Jimmy Clausen will find a school that best adpapts to his skills will help him in the future.
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Nov 14, 2005 3:59 PM
Perhaps these players coming out of high school need to look at the system before committing.  Suggs and Shaeffer are more roll out players not the typical drop back qb, and this simply is not the system for them.
I think players like Jimmy Clausen will find a school that best adpapts to his skills will help him in the future.
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Maybe we need to change the system!
 
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Originally posted by brg72@Nov 14, 2005 2:59 PM
Perhaps these players coming out of high school need to look at the system before committing.  Suggs and Shaeffer are more roll out players not the typical drop back qb, and this simply is not the system for them.
I think players like Jimmy Clausen will find a school that best adpapts to his skills will help him in the future.
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Suggs was not what I'd call a Rollout passer....Maybe in the vein of Shuler
 
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Originally posted by volbreaker@Nov 14, 2005 2:51 PM
And UT player development!!
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With the right team and good player devlopment, Schaeffer will do well. If he goes to another SEC school, he may just come back to haunt us. CPF needs to do something about player development. We can get the best recruits in, but if their abilities are not developed then other schools will surpass our athletes.
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 14, 2005 5:00 PM
Suggs....memories....

I saw the boy play HS football. I hoped and prayed he'd go to UT. He was phenomenal. His stats, his state title in GA in the hardest class in the state, his ability to read the defenses, scramble, everything.....then came college....
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We must have seen to different Suggs, the one I saw had an arm made of spaghetti. :w00t:
 
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I have friend that coaches Aaron Hayden's kids - he said that a lot of the recruits that come to UT see it as a straight shot to the NFL - they come to get the coverage - play for themselves and get out. They don't appreciate the coaching staff and they have no discipline. To me it wouldn't matter if BS was here or not - this TEAM has played like crap - you can't name just one person that has lead to this team's record, they all play their part -

 
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Originally posted by VOLracerx@Nov 14, 2005 4:17 PM
I have friend that coaches Aaron Hayden's kids - he said that a lot of the recruits that come to UT see it as a straight shot to the NFL - they come to get the coverage - play for themselves and get out. They don't appreciate the coaching staff and they have no discipline. To me it wouldn't matter if BS was here or not - this TEAM has played like crap - you can't name just one person that has lead to this team's record, they all play their part -
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:bow: I agree with this 100%. Kelly Washington was a prime example...i think a lot of these guys look at UT as just a stepping stone, and if/when it doesn't work out then it just goes sour. Thank goodness for players like Jason Allen and Peyton Manning...It's been a while since we've had a lot of players like that on the same team...

They ought to change that Orange Tennessee shaped sign from "I'll give my all for Tennessee today" to "I'll give my all for ME so long as it doesn't hurt my draft status today"
 
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Originally posted by wilburnVol@Nov 14, 2005 3:15 PM
We must have seen to different Suggs, the one I saw had an arm made of spaghetti.  :w00t:
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Did you see him in high school? That's what I was referring to. He was a good QB at McEachern.
 
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Originally posted by VOLracerx@Nov 14, 2005 3:17 PM
I have friend that coaches Aaron Hayden's kids - he said that a lot of the recruits that come to UT see it as a straight shot to the NFL - they come to get the coverage - play for themselves and get out. They don't appreciate the coaching staff and they have no discipline. To me it wouldn't matter if BS was here or not - this TEAM has played like crap - you can't name just one person that has lead to this team's record, they all play their part -
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Does'nt surprise me...look at Jamal Lewiss' senior year...Cheese shoulda been in there all year. Everyone across the country also notices the same thing...has to go back to coaching...USC does'nt seem to have that problem!!
 
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my question is how do we get so much out of our defensive players and so little out of the offense. Even when the defense wasn't as "stout" as normal they played with a lot of heart and hustle - these guys on offense are just out there yucking it up and having a good time. I sure hope that we get some discipline on offense soon.
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 14, 2005 2:20 PM
I wonder if that has anything to do with the QB situation? I wonder if there is just this popularity contest going on with players all following into different camps. Basically this team has turned into sides rather than a single and cohesive unit. Everyone has their favorites and preferences and makes that pblic knowledge rather than sacking up and playing as a team.

I'm curious if BS has looked at VT as well. I know he wants to walk right in to a program but his want for a compatible system and the availabilities at the moment aren't really panning out. Very few systems out there like working with the mobile QB in that fashion. I think that might be one reason he's not here in Knoxville anymore. I don't think Sanders and Fulmer know what to do with anything but a pocket passer. Who knows what would happen if the new OC came in and said we want him back. It could be the Saban/Williams situation. But only adding more QBs could cause more problems or headaches.....
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I think you may be on to something "CSpin" Ever since the "Competition" between EA & BS there seems to be a "two camp" feeling. Could EA be getting less of an effort from some of his "team" as a result of him winning out?
 
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Originally posted by BigOrangeBruce@Nov 14, 2005 4:33 PM
I think you may be on to something "CSpin" Ever since the "Competition" between EA & BS there seems to be a "two camp" feeling. Could EA be getting less of an effort from some of his "team" as a result of him winning out?
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No telling. We all have our theories. Some make more sense than others but it could be the out there theories are what the situation is. Nothing this season has made any sense. Conventional wisdom has gone out the door. While there's been a lot of leaking it seems the most important details still elude us. I just see something deeper than a loss of skill in one QB or another. I see the O squad with issues all over the map. ST has no full-time official coach and they're off the map. The D squad has held its own as much as they have been phsyically able to. So it comes down to which squads being better coached. One of the poor squads has no coach and the most infected one has had a coach who has been consistent in inconsistency. that is where I single Sanders out. Each year the talent and skills increase, bu the production and psychology of the offense decreases. You cannot single out one player. Every position has seen this deeper problem. SOme players have had this problem more than others. Someone said the squad needs to be deprogrammed. That will be the case. Some of the players may have hope. For the benefit of the team and fans I hope ALL can be saved. There's too much time and money spent on all of these guys, especially Ainge and some of those receivers to toss out with the garbage.
 
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All that I know is that we're playing with the same team this year that we did last year. You can't tell me that losing Houston and Respert and Brown made that much difference.

I think that Schaeffer is one of the missing parts this year. Look what he did at the South Carolina game for us. Two big plays lit the fuse.

Not to mention, last year they had to prepare for 2 different QB's in the first half of the season. This year, they don't really have to prepare for either of our QB's.

With Schaeffer, we would be 7-2, 6-3 right now. I guess we'll never know for sure.
 
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Why do so many of you believe that with Schaeffer, we would be better this year?

Ainge and Clausen both had good years last year.

This year, it's like deciding if Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles is more sober to drive home from a party.

Our OFFENSE was better last year. What makes anyone think that Schaeffer could solve these problems?

Maybe he could. But if he couldn't beat out Ainge or Clausen last year, what makes you think that he would have had more "development" at the QB position than Ainge or Clausen this year?
 
#23
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Schaeffer :bad:

I think this is a publicity stunt. Those stats are good for Schaeffer, but that's at a state college. That would be like comparing COS to UT. BIG difference!!!

One person can't do it alone. There has to be better offensive production and that starts with the coaches on the sidelines. :matrix:
 
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BS would give us what he gave us when he was here. Mobility at the QB. That would be good. However as his article states:"I think he has a lot more allowances here than Tennessee allowed." That's what he could not deal with. He wanted to run the show the way he has in every situation he has been in as a QB, strictly on his talent level no matter what the coaches think. I don't think he will make a good D1 QB for this reason. Also I think he will have a hard time making an elite program in D1. Needs more structure in his game. :twocents:
 
#25
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i realize what some of yall are saying that one man cant change a team but i do think he would have added a spark to our offense. I really wish we had him now...we didnt give him enough time.
 
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