Schiano statistically the worst

#26
#26
DonDiego said:
How dare you talk about Heupel retiring! Well, I guess it's ok. There is a 99.9% chance I won't be around in 2045 anyway.
Click to expand...

Look at the bright side, by 2045 perhaps there will be a medical breakthrough and Heupel could be cloned, etc.

All will not be lost ! Well, unless we hire another version of Cornbread
 
  • Like
Reactions: DonDiego
#28
#28
stolitonic said:
Look at the bright side, by 2045 perhaps there will be a medical breakthrough and Heupel could be cloned, etc.

All will not be lost! Well, unless we hire another version of Cornbread
Click to expand...
But I don't care, because I'll be long gone to a much better place. Buckling in for the flight, bro...2045 is for the next gen
 
#29
#29
GiveHim6InSC said:
That Sunday was one of my proudest moments as a Vol fan. I don’t care one whit about what others think about UT or the fan base when it comes to him. He was/is not a good coach and the last thing the program and University needed at that time was the extra baggage he brought.
Click to expand...

Yep: He's no Jeremy Pruitt, that's for sure! The only baggage Schiano had was in the fervid imagination of fans.
 
#31
#31
Voldog1998 said:
I never wanted him or Pruitt just saying he would’ve been marginally better probaly than Pruitt but we still probaly would be stuck with him going 7-5 and 8-4 every year and I don’t think he would’ve been able to recruit very well in the SEC. Sadly Mel Tucker was the best choice of the bunch.
Click to expand...

Tennessee tested me with the hiring of Pruitt and I despised every game that SOB attempted to coach beginning with the first embarrassing effort vs WV. I never liked Dooley cause I knew he only got the job cause of his name but I despised Pruitt. And with good reason.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Voldog1998
#32
#32
Pennheel said:
Oh,I know you weren't defending it. While I respectfully disagree about the "and furthermore" to an extent,I get how people can go that route. I definitely agree as people,we're not on equal footing in regards to debating and sometimes it's that reason that things are discussed the way they are.

It's also very sickening that some so called journalist would stoop to such a pathetic stereotype like that. Sounds like a bit of a weirdo if you ask me.

Interesting little conversation so I appreciate it. I think overall the right decision was made and now almost 6 years later, it's proven to have paid off for Tennessee's football program. Meanwhile for Schiano at Rutgers,not so much.
Click to expand...
Uh oh! 😳

EC655F87-C6B4-4207-BF18-2D4D4DC860DB.jpeg
 
  • Like
Reactions: Behr, KptVFL, VAVol85 and 1 other person
#34
#34
Voldog1998 said:
He would’ve been much better than Pruitt though and not got us in trouble with the NCAA.
Click to expand...

Certainly happy with the way things turned out. But I think Schiano got a bad rap on the sexual assault allegation. The guys 60 years old and he has one unproven allegation against him? Whatever happened to the innocent until proven guilty we apply to our own players?

Doubt anyone could be successful at Rutgers.
 
#35
#35
Greg Schiano
Brian Kelly
James Franklin

None of them deserve to be coaching and I’ll die on this hill.
 
#37
#37
Dudleys87 said:
Who is that guy and how caught up do you have to be in tweetland to block someone. Sounds to me like he got caught in his feels and had a moment 🤣🤣🤣
Click to expand...
The writer who had Schiano’s back and has never forgiven us. You don’t have to do much to get on this list. 😉
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: KptVFL, UT_Dutchman and orangebloodgmc
#39
#39
Savannahbayvol said:
Certainly happy with the way things turned out. But I think Schiano got a bad rap on the sexual assault allegation. The guys 60 years old and he has one unproven allegation against him? Whatever happened to the innocent until proven guilty we apply to our own players?

Doubt anyone could be successful at Rutgers.
Click to expand...
“Unproven” has never swayed the talking heads and print media when it comes to the Vols. They would have found a reason to set up tents on campus with these allegations as a backdrop. I don’t know how much I believed Schiano was tied up in that scandal, but his name came up (unsolicited) from the ONE coach who reported anything to anybody during that entire travesty. So why hire the headache?
 
  • Like
Reactions: KptVFL, SpookyAction, UT_Dutchman and 3 others
#41
#41
Since it hasn't been brought up, the article talks about how terrible Schiano is against Top 25 teams. Schiano is 4-27, and 0-10 this round at Rutgers. Which is bottom 5 for P5 coaches.

Heupel is 8-7, he had 4 last year, Pitt, LSU, Bama, Clemson (Article says 6, not sure on that math), and 1 in 2021 vs Kentucky. he is 1 of 9 active P5 coaches with a winning record against P5.

so in two years at UT Heupel has more ranked wins than Schiano does in a decade+ career.
 
  • Like
Reactions: orangebloodgmc, VAVol85 and VolNExile
#43
#43
As I think about it, I'm glad that it didn't work out whether he was average,bad or coming off of a natty. They didn't need anyone associated with Penn St. at that time. It worked out in the long run. Fans and players alike like Huepel and what he brings to the table and he's a coach that can build upon his success from last year. Just my 2 pennies worth of an opinion on the matter.
 
#44
#44
VolNExile said:
Bingo, that right there. ^^^

He's a crappy coach, and he's been crappy pretty much everywhere he's coached, and we (the fanbase) were tired of having crappy coaches foisted on us by you-know-who and told to smile and like it. And yes, the Penn State baggage was a real thing and repelled many people, but really, the Volshevik Revolution was all about a fed-up fanbase saying, no, we're not content with having Mediocre Joe presented as our new coach and expected to fall over ourselves in gratitude.

Go Vols, and go for excellence!
Click to expand...
He basically was trading Butch Jones for a new (defensive) Butch Jones with more baggage. No major program though was going to take a chance on that kind of baggage. Tennessee especially couldn’t afford to.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SpookyAction, JCP201 and VolNExile
#45
#45
LouderVol said:
Since it hasn't been brought up, the article talks about how terrible Schiano is against Top 25 teams. Schiano is 4-27, and 0-10 this round at Rutgers. Which is bottom 5 for P5 coaches.

Heupel is 8-7, he had 4 last year, Pitt, LSU, Bama, Clemson (Article says 6, not sure on that math), and 1 in 2021 vs Kentucky. he is 1 of 9 active P5 coaches with a winning record against P5.

so in two years at UT Heupel has more ranked wins than Schiano does in a decade+ career.
Click to expand...
Two teams we tend to play often are not top 25 but top 5 or Hype's record would be even better.
 
#47
#47
Do people actually read these articles before posting them? Even the headline is a clue to it being pure clickbait

Greg Schiano is one of the worst coaches in college football in key metric . Stop and think about that for a minute.

in key metric. does that make it more clear?

metric. singular not plural.

key. according to who?

Do you realize how many accepted metrics exist to gauge such things? not only that htere are made up metrics everyday where someone just says im gonna add these random numbers together to make my point.

You can literally take that headline and swap in the name of any coach or player in any sport and make it true with the right metric.

Nick Saban is one of the worst coaches in college football in key metric. What metric is it? The OPPG is patented by me (orange pants per game). In his career, Nick Saban has worn orange pants less than every coach in the SEC. In fact, this is true historically for Alabama coaches and assistants outside of, strangely, Jeremy Pruitt. If you compare Alabama coaches to coaches from schools such as Auburn, Florida, Clemson, Syracuse, Texas and Tennessee. Well, his numbers are shockingly low in comparison.

See I just posted an article just as valid as the one the OP linked.
 
#48
#48
Mike Leach would have probably laid a good foundation here at Tennessee after the potential Schiano hire was curtailed.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Pennheel
#49
#49
Volfan1000 said:
Mike Leach would have probably laid a good foundation here at Tennessee after the potential Schiano hire was curtailed.
Click to expand...


Yeah,while it worked out in the long run, I wanted to see Leach at Tennessee to see how his offense would have ran at Tennessee. Judging by Huepels success, it looks like it would been great. I was saddened by his passing.
 
  • Like
Reactions: VolNExile and Volfan1000
#50
#50
Schiano was a good coach during his first tenure at Rutgers. He took a zero program and made them competitive for the first time.
That was a generation ago, and he has coasted on that rep. He was decent with Urban's loaded talent at tOSU.

I figure the UT program would be a black hole had he ever made it to campus.
His personality is a suede condom.

I've never seen anything that makes me think he was actually aware of the crimes happening at PSU. It had little to do with my personal opposition to his hire. He was wrong for the job and the school. The link between Schiano to the abuse and crimes was 3rd hand, and the supposed source, Tom Bradley when he was DC at UCLA, said he had no knowledge of the abuse or Schiano having knowledge about it.

Schiano would have been a worse hire than Dooley or Pruitt, IMO. He would've killed our football Program without needing NCAA sanctions.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: VolNExile
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top