Scott Frost Gets One More Year

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Scott is a good coach..... His main problem is the upper midwest is virtually a no mans land for recruiting elite players.... I like Nebraska very much because the fans are generally very polite, even to opposing teams, and display good manners.... Even the husker message boards are extremely civil with no vulgar language or trolling..... I don't think it is allowed and it is clean civil discussion among a rabid fanbase. Far, far different than the SEC boards including this one.
 
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They have some talent but their quarterback, Martinez, is a JG clone. He can make great plays but also incredibly bad decisions. His leadership skills seem lacking and since there is no accountability for his errors, it deflates the whole team. If Frost has any common sense, he hits the QB transfer portal hard and tells Martinez thanks for your 4 years but we are going in another direction.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
They have some talent but their quarterback, Martinez, is a JG clone. He can make great plays but also incredibly bad decisions. His leadership skills seem lacking and since there is no accountability for his errors, it deflates the whole team. If Frost has any common sense, he hits the QB transfer portal hard and tells Martinez thanks for your 4 years but we are going in another direction.
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...and unlike Pruitt, Scott should actually know how to coach a QB. No QB worth their salt was ever going to come here to play for the Gump. I don't know what Nebraska's other options are at QB, but Frost's insistence on playing Martinez is actually Pruitt-like.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm not sure I've ever seen this before. Coach gets a pay cut/reduced guaranteed money, but keeps his job. As @SGMVols said, I'm stunned he agreed to it. He must really want to stay there. When they presented him with the restructured contract, he could have torn it up and said "Screw that; if you don't think I'm doing a good job just fire me and pay me my buyout."

I thought that too. After UCF won their conference title, and then again after the won the Peach Bowl, he got really choked up multiple times after the game. It was like he felt he "had" to go to Nebraska but didn't exactly want to. He knew he had UCF absolutely rolling, and he knew that despite the sentimental feelings he had for Nebraska and the raise that it was a really difficult job.
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Didn't Harbaugh take a significant pay cut at Michigan after last season?
 
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Freak said:
Didn't Harbaugh take a significant pay cut at Michigan after last season?
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He did, but if memory serves it was slightly a different situation than Frost. Harbaugh's contract was either expiring or had just a year left on it, and basically he was signed to a new contract/contract extension that paid him less.

With this Frost contract, I believe they restructured his existing deal so that he got a pay cut and reduced buyout - this wasn't a contract extension/new contract that pays him less. It's really interesting that Frost agreed to this...I mean, I guess he could have not agreed and he would have gotten his buyout money, so he must really want to stay. In Harbaugh's case, if he refused to sign that deal, there was little if any buyout left because his deal was about to expire.
 
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05_never_again said:
He did, but if memory serves it was slightly a different situation than Frost. Harbaugh's contract was either expiring or had just a year left on it, and basically he was signed to a new contract/contract extension that paid him less.

With this Frost contract, I believe they restructured his existing deal so that he got a pay cut and reduced buyout - this wasn't a contract extension/new contract that pays him less. It's really interesting that Frost agreed to this...I mean, I guess he could have not agreed and he would have gotten his buyout money, so he must really want to stay. In Harbaugh's case, if he refused to sign that deal, there was little if any buyout left because his deal was about to expire.
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I see what you're saying. No doubt it's weird that he'd agree to it. It seems that he really wanted to come back next year, like you said, more than he wanted the money.
 
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headhunter15 said:
The college football fan in me wants to see Tennessee, Nebraska, and Michigan do well. They should’ve stayed in the Big 12.
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I’d like to see Nebraska get built back up again. Their fan base has been through alot like we have and they still pack their stadium. I’d be fine if Michigan’s program went into the dumps and stayed there. Another overrated big 10 team that gets a lot of love from the media every year that they don’t deserve. I’ve had a dislike for them ever since Woodson won the Heisman I guess.
 
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A.J. said:
I’d like to see Nebraska get built back up again. Their fan base has been through alot like we have and they still pack their stadium. I’d be fine if Michigan’s program went into the dumps and stayed there. Another overrated big 10 team that gets a lot of love from the media every year that they don’t deserve. I’ve had a dislike for them ever since Woodson won the Heisman I guess.
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Michigan has the most out-of-whack from reality perception of their football program. Even more than Texas, IMO.
 
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A.J. said:
I wonder if Nebraska has a Jon Gruden?
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Nebraska did one better - they actually hired their Peyton Manning.

Imagine if Peyton got into college coaching, was a strong OC then won big as a HC at a smaller school to build a resume, came back home to turn Tennessee around, but then went 10-23 in SEC play over 3+ seasons. That is what they are dealing with right now.

Both Nebraska and Michigan are beside themselves because of their current coaches cannot get them to where they want to be, then it is totally fair to ask who can. I feel bad for Nebraska fans because they are great fans and have suffered for a long time; I have schadenfreude for Michigan fans 1) because of their arrogance and total lack of self-awareness and 2) they have not been terrible under Harbaugh. They've been bad in big games, or bad relative to expectations, but he's 39-17 in Big Ten play overall. That isn't awful. Nebraska has been awful.
 
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05_never_again said:
...and unlike Pruitt, Scott should actually know how to coach a QB. No QB worth their salt was ever going to come here to play for the Gump. I don't know what Nebraska's other options are at QB, but Frost's insistence on playing Martinez is actually Pruitt-like.
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My understanding (from just reading Husker fan forums) is that the QB room is pretty barren. Of course, that is on Frost. He should know that you always need to have viable QB candidates behind your starter. Its not like Martinez played great in the past and is struggling this year. Frost needed to recruit QB's long ago. Everyone on the forums says Martinez is a good teammate, good student, friendly. I think coaches fall into the trap that they refuse to 'fire' friends and nice guys. I've certainly seen it in the business world; someone is incompetent in their job but a nice person and so they get to stick around a long time.
 
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OldandStillaVol said:
My understanding (from just reading Husker fan forums) is that the QB room is pretty barren. Of course, that is on Frost. He should know that you always need to have viable QB candidates behind your starter. Its not like Martinez played great in the past and is struggling this year. Frost needed to recruit QB's long ago. Everyone on the forums says Martinez is a good teammate, good student, friendly. I think coaches fall into the trap that they refuse to 'fire' friends and nice guys. I've certainly seen it in the business world; someone is incompetent in their job but a nice person and so they get to stick around a long time.
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Yes - given that he's in year 4 a lack of other options at that spot (or any position) is on Frost at this point.
 
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Huskers are in a tough spot honestly. Like 05 said above, they hired their golden boy in Frost who is there Peyton. Fan base was in heaven and it's not worked out. Frost looked like a great hire as he had the connections, the successful coaching experience and is a true blood Husker legend. Problem is they are no longer in prime recruiting areas like Texas. The Midwest is rich in hoops recruiting but even then they're not going to out recruit programs like Kansas, Purdue, Indiana and others....in football they are even more out of the recruiting loop. Where do they go post Frost Era? Do they stick with another NU bloodline or try to get some young up coming coaching star? The job itself is promising as you have one of the largest and most loyal fanbases in all of CFB, a great tradition, BIG TV money and your in a B1G West division where the only teams your going to have to compete with yearly for a trip to the B1G title game is Wisconsin and Iowa.
 
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Gotta be honest....I thought of all the hires, Nebraska had a sure thing with Frost. I confess to loving the idea of him coaching at UT. Dumbass cavput.
 
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Adrian Martinez was a very highly rated recruit so it isn't an issue of poor recruiting at least at that position for the starter. He has not been developed
 
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05_never_again said:
Nebraska did one better - they actually hired their Peyton Manning.

Imagine if Peyton got into college coaching, was a strong OC then won big as a HC at a smaller school to build a resume, came back home to turn Tennessee around, but then went 10-23 in SEC play over 3+ seasons. That is what they are dealing with right now.
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You don't really have to imagine it; you can remember it when it was Johnny Majors. FWIW. And Johnny was an actual champion.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
You don't really have to imagine it; you can remember it when it was Johnny Majors. FWIW. And Johnny was an actual champion.
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Both are Tennessee legends, but Johnny was ever quite the figure Peyton was/is. Peyton went on to be one of the best and more recognizable NFL players.
 
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TennesseeHawkeye said:
I think Nebraska’s biggest problem is Adrian Martinez. That boy is a walking, talking turnover machine! And as someone said before, it feels like he’s been there forever. And, hopefully I’m wrong, but I read that he has TWO years of eligibility left!? How? Why? Frost needs to find himself a new QB- his job really does depend on it. Nebraska has been close in all their games this year. Their record would likely be quite a bit better if not for Martinez.
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Vol fans are fortunate Frost stole Martinez from Butch. Back to back with JG & Martinez would kill off half of us.
 
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05_never_again said:
No, but there's just no way Johnny Majors was ever the figure Peyton was. I'm not talking about just at Tennessee - I mean nationally.
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Youre right as far as a media personality. Majors never sold insurance, cars or was on a monday night NFL broadcast but Majors was the top college football coach in America in 1976 and his coming home WAS the story in the SEC and college football.
 
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