Scotty Hopson named 3rd Team Preseason All-America

[BigOrangePassion1]

Maybe third team all SEC.

 

[golfballs]

You're right. Look how consistent Scotty was when it mattered this year in the 'AAs. He almost decided to contest that shot that eliminated us; that's All-American material right there.

It's all relative. Please give us your 3rd team All-America, and it can only include players who didn't make mistakes last year.

 

[LawVol13]

It's all relative. Please give us your 3rd team All-America, and it can only include players who didn't make mistakes last year.

Scotty Hopson isn't even the best player at his own position on our team, and he was about the 4th best on the team last year. But if you guys want to keep pretending he's something he's not, have at it.

 

[golfballs]

Scotty Hopson isn't even the best player at his own position on our team, and he was about the 4th best on the team last year. But if you guys want to keep pretending he's something he's not, have at it.

I'm not pretending anything. You suggest that he's not All-America because he screwed up on a play last year. This is a pre-season all-america team, as in the coming year.

Based on his talent, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he can wind up on the 3rd team All-America after next season. I'm not saying he will, but it's not unreasonable.

 

[LawVol13]

I'm not pretending anything. You suggest that he's not All-America because he screwed up on a play last year. This is a pre-season all-america team, as in the coming year.

Based on his talent, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he can wind up on the 3rd team All-America after next season. I'm not saying he will, but it's not unreasonable.

I suggest that he's not because he has grossly underachieved during his time here and there is absolutely no reason to think he's going to morph into a mentally tough player capable of being an All-American.

That play against Mich. State just illustrates his time at UT, disappointing.

 

[bud0323]

Well LawVol I'm sure that Scotty Hopson doesn't give a crap about what you say about him because from this offseason he is working really hard. He did well in the Lebron James Skills camp and right now is currently practicing on the USA Mens Select team.

 

[LawVol13]

Well LawVol I'm sure that Scotty Hopson doesn't give a crap about what you say about him because from this offseason he is working really hard. He did well in the Lebron James Skills camp and right now is currently practicing on the USA Mens Select team.

I don't hate Scotty Hopson nor think he cares what I think about him; however, I, like most rational people, would consider him a disappointment thus far in his career. No one would be happier than me if he was a 3rd Team All-American. I just don't see it.

 

[zjcvols]

I don't hate Scotty Hopson nor think he cares what I think about him; however, I, like most rational people, would consider him a disappointment thus far in his career. No one would be happier than me if he was a 3rd Team All-American. I just don't see it.

If most people were honest with themselves, they would know that to be true.

 

[golfballs]

I suggest that he's not because he has grossly underachieved during his time here and there is absolutely no reason to think he's going to morph into a mentally tough player capable of being an All-American.

That play against Mich. State just illustrates his time at UT, disappointing.

Right. Clearly Dick Vitale's assumption for whatever it's worth, is that Hopson might actually play to his potential. But I agree with you, based on his track record, I don't see it happening. I hope I'm wrong, I think he will be improved, but I don't think he will be All-America.

 

[LawVol13]

Right. Clearly Dick Vitale's assumption for whatever it's worth, is that Hopson might actually play to his potential. But I agree with you, based on his track record, I don't see it happening. I hope I'm wrong, I think he will be improved, but I don't think he will be All-America.

I agree. I expect to see marginal improvement from him at best.

 

[Urinal Mint]

I think that Hopson is going to be one of those guys who we talk about his potential until he's gone. You can fix being mentally weak.

 

[wombat7477]

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[golfballs]

Also, just because he might not live up to his potential, doesn't mean he isn't good. I think he is solid for us.

 

[BasketvolsFan]

I think that Hopson is going to be one of those guys who we talk about his potential until he's gone. You can fix being mentally weak.

Why don't you call Pearl with the formula for fixing being mentally weak. He sure hasn't figured it out in the past two years.

 

[Wise-Vol]

You're right. Look how consistent Scotty was when it mattered this year in the 'AAs. He almost decided to contest that shot that eliminated us; that's All-American material right there.

Actually, Brian Williams and JP Prince were contesting the shot (and got called with a foul) that led to the free throw that eliminated us, after Wayne Chism failed to guard his man.

You apparently are confused by the meanings of consistent and perfect.

 

[Wise-Vol]

If you honestly think that Prince was more dispensable than Hopson, then you ought to just start posting on another forum.

Nice try. You first try BS with "consistency" and I show that to be silly based on the facts and so you quickly try to Obamatize the English language by misrepresenting what I posted through introduction of the word "dispensable". That's the last resort of someone trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[LawVol13]

Actually, Brian Williams and JP Prince were contesting the shot (and got called with a foul) that led to the free throw that eliminated us, after Wayne Chism failed to guard his man.

You apparently are confused by the meanings of consistent and perfect.

It would have never got to that point had Scotty Hopson simply put a hand up in Summers' face.

 

[LawVol13]

Nice try. You first try BS with "consistency" and I show that to be silly based on the facts and so you quickly try to Obamatize the English language by misrepresenting what I posted through introduction of the word "dispensable". That's the last resort of someone trying to defend the indefensible.

I'm not trying any BS. If you think Hopson was consistent or indispensable, then you know absolutely nothing about basketball.

Scotty Hopson had nothing to do with our run in the tourney. In fact, during the last stretch of the season, he wasn't even the best player at his own position. Cam Tatum was.

 

[cotton]

Scotty Hopson had nothing to do with our run in the tourney. In fact, during the last stretch of the season, he wasn't even the best player at his own position. Cam Tatum was.

I'd kinda like to know what this opinion is based on.

 

[LawVol13]

I'd kinda like to know what this opinion is based on.

It's based on reality. If you look at Cam Tatum's ppg per 40 minutes, I guarantee he averaged more than Hopson the last part of the year.

He's a better defender than Hopson, dribbles through traffic better, creates more turnovers, and is just an all-around tougher player.

 

[golfballs]

Hopson averaged 17.6 points per 40 and Tatum averaged 17.4

And if you put any significance on +/- ratings, Hopson was better over the course of the season. But I think that stat is somewhat circumstantial.

However, Tatum's offensive rating was higher than Hopson's - which measures points per possession each player was used in

BTW - these are stats over the course of the entire season

 

[LawVol13]

Hopson averaged 17.6 points per 40 and Tatum averaged 17.4

And if you put any significance on +/- ratings, Hopson was better over the course of the season. But I think that stat is somewhat circumstantial.

However, Tatum's offensive rating was higher than Hopson's - which measures points per possession each player was used in

BTW - these are stats over the course of the entire season

Hopson padded his stats against the UNC-Asheville's of the world. Tatum was better against the real teams.

By the way, nice job finding these stats.

 

[BasketvolsFan]

Actually, Brian Williams and JP Prince were contesting the shot (and got called with a foul) that led to the free throw that eliminated us, after Wayne Chism failed to guard his man.

You apparently are confused by the meanings of consistent and perfect.

He is talking about the Summers shot that Hopson made absolutely no effort to contest. He then followed that great defensive effort by taking an ill advised shot and then missing the second free throw that could have won the game for us. He is consistent all right. Unfortunately, his consistency cost the team greatly---not help. You are a dork if you don't recognize this fact. By the way, it was Brian Williams who didn't get back on defense, not Chism. Did you even watch the game?

 

[cotton]

It's based on reality. If you look at Cam Tatum's ppg per 40 minutes, I guarantee he averaged more than Hopson the last part of the year.

He's a better defender than Hopson, dribbles through traffic better, creates more turnovers, and is just an all-around tougher player.

Actually, it isn't based on reality. You've invented a category--and estimated it incorrectly, according to golfballs--and used it to justify your bias. Scotty had better numbers. Scotty got more minutes. Scotty is a better player. Michael Hubert, by the way, averaged 46/40 minutes by my quick calculation.

You don't like Hopson, you think he has not lived up to billing, so you see things that are not there. I get that. Tatum and Hopson are similar players, and both have had flashes of brillance and periods of disappearance, but Hopson is more productive and has higher upside. Don't let the fact that more was, and is, expected of him confuse that.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Actually, it isn't based on reality. You've invented a category--and estimated it incorrectly, according to golfballs--and used it to justify your bias. Scotty had better numbers. Scotty got more minutes. Scotty is a better player. Michael Hubert, by the way, averaged 46/40 minutes by my quick calculation.

Hahaha yeah he was a beast! 100% from behind the arc, if I'm not mistaking.