Sean Taylor Shot and Killed (merged)

#51
#51
My guess is that the chief said that to keep people from engaging in wild, slanderous speculation as to possible motives for the crime. As to whether people have an idea as to the perpetrators, I learned a long time ago that there are no secrets in Miami. If this wasn't random, it will be known soon and retribution will be swift. The perpetrators don't just have to worry about former 'Canes, they need to be on the lookout for members of th Florida City PD. Those guys, to a man, revere Sean's father.


Yeah, I saw that his father is chief over there in Florida City.

One would think that if it was planned and he was targeted then some folks are going to spill the beans to someone. As you said, hopefully cooler heads will prevail if that does happen and the police will be allowed to take care of it, rather than an escalation or vigilante situation develop.
 
#53
#53
LG, you spoke earlier about todays society.I think there are two kinds of people. Those that cross the line and show no remorse and those that try to live within the laws of our society. When I watched juvenile deliquents/young adults years ago, one night a kid struck another kid in the head while he was sleeping and did it because he didn't like him and he had no remorse. A 14 year old locked up there had stabbed and killed another girl as she lay in the bathtub pregnant by the other girls boyfriend.Sweet girl but just a horrible crime. This society a lot of people don't see at all hidden from the world. My sister works at a mental health center and oftentimes there is some horrific crime committed whereby a child has to go through a evaluation to see if they are mentally stable. A kid 15 yer old kid ,a while back, shot his school bus driver at the bus stop because she took away his skoal. Wasn't mentally ill just mean as hell. As for myself, I try not to block myself in at intersections while stopped and basically look over my shoulder when out. Just what I have been around dictates my behavior I suppose. Thankfully nothing bad has happened to my family and myself but I do feel bad for those that misfortunes happen to. I'm only hoping change happens and it starts at home.
 
#54
#54
LG, you spoke earlier about todays society.I think there are two kinds of people. Those that cross the line and show no remorse and those that try to live within the laws of our society. When I watched juvenile deliquents/young adults years ago, one night a kid struck another kid in the head while he was sleeping and did it because he didn't like him and he had no remorse. A 14 year old locked up there had stabbed and killed another girl as she lay in the bathtub pregnant by the other girls boyfriend.Sweet girl but just a horrible crime. This society a lot of people don't see at all hidden from the world. My sister works at a mental health center and oftentimes there is some horrific crime committed whereby a child has to go through a evaluation to see if they are mentally stable. A kid 15 yer old kid ,a while back, shot his school bus driver at the bus stop because she took away his skoal. Wasn't mentally ill just mean as hell. As for myself, I try not to block myself in at intersections while stopped and basically look over my shoulder when out. Just what I have been around dictates my behavior I suppose. Thankfully nothing bad has happened to my family and myself but I do feel bad for those that misfortunes happen to. I'm only hoping change happens and it starts at home.



fantilidie, that's a good post about a crappy subject.

I had a case (yes, believe it or not I do work occassionally) involving a kid who with his buddies liked to break into cars and steal whatever. Usually just spare change, CD's, cigarettes, junk like that. But every now and again they'd come across a gun.

Well, this one weekend there's a party and these kids go out and break into some cars and in one of them they find a gun. The kid, Teddy, takes the gun to school the next Monday and rumor is he is going to sell it to another kid who doesn't like some nerdy guy.

By the way, these are all white middle class suburban kids, so forget whatever stereotype you might want to put on the situation.

A note gets passed around in first period class about the possibility of this gun bein on campus. very nonchalant conversation about it. The nerdy kid finds out about it and reports it to a teacher, who gets the note and gives it to a principal, who passes it on to a deputy assigned to the school for day-to-day security.

The deputy interviews a boy that he thinks is named in the note, but who of course denies everything. Meanwhile, his student aide sees the note on his desk and runs out to tell Teddy that the adults know. So he goes and hides the gun.

School lets out and Teddy and his sister and friends pile into his Toyota 4runner and as he drives out of the school parking lot and Teddy shows the gun to his best friend in the back seat. The gun goes off, the bullet goes through the front seat and into Teddy's heart. He falls out of the car, dead.

Parents sue the school board the Sheriff (result was I got the Sheriff dismissed and school paid a small settlement a couiple of years later).

During discovery, we obtained a slew of notes that these kids had sent back and forth over the year, a group of about 15 teenagers. I'm no prude, but I was shocked by the sex and violence discussed in these notes. Teenage girls describing what they were doing with their friends at these parties. You'd absolutely be stunned by it. And again, these are just average kids, not what you'd expect at all.

Point is, these kids are coming from what appear to be stable suburban two parent homes. And they are doing all this stuff and guns are just not a big deal to them at all. You can only imagine how completely unimpressed by guns and violence kids who come from less fortunate circumstances would be.
 
#55
#55
Speaking as an educator, I think your spot on LG. Horrible and tragic story about the young man in both of these stories.
 
#58
#58
There is a big piece to this puzzle missing that may never come out. I heard on the news last night that his girlfriend is Andy Garcia's (the actor - Godfather 3, Black Rain) niece or daughter. Didn't catch the entire story.
 
#59
#59
I just don't see how he had a break-in one week ago and then this and it's still random. Also they are calling it a armed burglary/robbery but nothing was taken. Somethings just dont add up.
These comments are from Antrel Rolle, lifelong friend of Taylor.

"This was not the first incident," Rolle said. "They've been targeting him for three years now."

Rolle said many former "friends" had it in for Taylor, who was trying to build a more stable life.

"He really didn't say too much," Rolle said, "but I know he lived his life pretty much scared every day of his life when he was down in Miami because those people were targeting him. At least, he's got peace now."
"They say it was a burglary. It absolutely was not a burglary," he said. "Down South, where we're from, there were many people talking to Sean, a lot of jealousy, a lot of angry people.

"Sean, he had a large group of friends, and he no longer hung out with those friends, so you never know where this came from."

ESPN - Childhood friend Rolle thinks Taylor was targeted - NFL
 
#60
#60
I will make this comment and this comment only on this situation. I hope with all my heart that Butch Davis, Larry Coker, Roger Goodell and anyone else who holds sway with the alums of the "U" are in touch with them now. Cooler heads must prevail. As someone who has been fortunate enough to get to know many of those guys, they're truly family. Should a former 'Cane get to the perp before the authorities do, may God have mercy on him. The 'Canes certainly won't. Sean Taylor was an occasionally immature, but fiercely loyal and caring young man. Those who would use this tragedy as a chance to throw stones at Sean or the University of Miami football program are cut from the same primordial slime as the cowardly shooter. RIP, Sean. The world lost a good one.

You make a good point Hat...Once your at "The U", your a brother to them...I wouldnt want to mess with any of them because your just going to get yourself into a war, literally...

I just don't see how he had a break-in one week ago and then this and it's still random. Also they are calling it a armed burglary/robbery but nothing was taken. Somethings just dont add up.
These comments are from Antrel Rolle, lifelong friend of Taylor.



ESPN - Childhood friend Rolle thinks Taylor was targeted - NFL

Thats scary to think....Sad story:no:
 
#61
#61
You make a good point Hat...Once your at "The U", your a brother to them...I wouldnt want to mess with any of them because your just going to get yourself into a war, literally...



Thats scary to think....Sad story:no:

It really is, to think this guy changed his whole life around to better him and his family and these are the results he gets. I just pray for his daughter.
 
#63
#63
The violence in our society is out of control. But its no longer surprising.

Does anyone really believe that it was some random home invasion or robbery? Five days after someone broke in, went through his stuff, and left a knife on his bed taking nothing?

I do not believe it was a random home invasion or robbery. Some one was definitely out to get him. It seems like the only athletes getting killed these days are football players. I wouldn't give a damn what the NFL says, I would go out and get my gun license if I were these guys.
 

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