SEC Big Ten Challenge

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#53
BigPapaVol said:
the crappy format of the bet keeps me from getting any of the action.
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I didn't want his money. Just want to sign on the bball forum and not see a 30,000 word novel on how we're not scared of anyone.

Although I should have asked him for $500. But I know he wouldn't pay. Just easier for him to go away, which I doubt he would do either.
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#54
#54
Purdue thanks to two awesome white dudes has stormed back to win against Alabama...

Illinois whupped Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt has dropped off the face.

Kentucky whupped Indiana at home.

Wisconsin lost to Wisconsin Green Bay. They did beat Marquette at home, but it was not a decisive victory.

Penn State lost to Va Tech

Ohio State lost to Butler.
 
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#55
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Purdue thanks to two awesome white dudes has stormed back to win against Alabama...

Illinois whupped Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt has dropped off the face.

Kentucky whupped Indiana at home.

Wisconsin lost to Wisconsin Green Bay. They did beat Marquette at home, but it was not a decisive victory.

Penn State lost to Va Tech

Ohio State lost to Butler.
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Ohio State is going to take a little while to adjust to the loss of Turner, and losing at Butler is not really a bad loss.. The Big 10 is still in pretty good shape.
 
#56
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Purdue thanks to two awesome white dudes has stormed back to win against Alabama...

Illinois whupped Vanderbilt, and Vanderbilt has dropped off the face.

Kentucky whupped Indiana at home.

Wisconsin lost to Wisconsin Green Bay. They did beat Marquette at home, but it was not a decisive victory.

Penn State lost to Va Tech

Ohio State lost to Butler.
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Vandy also lost to the great Western KY team. Are you still picking them to make the tournament?
 
#57
#57
BasketvolsFan said:
Vandy also lost to the great Western KY team. Are you still picking them to make the tournament?
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I have written a lot about Ogilvy. I think he is hurt.

Yes they will make the tournament.

Purdue 9-0 vs. Kentucky 10-0 Kentucky
Northwestern 7-1 vs. Florida 8-1 Florida
Illinois 8-2 vs. Mississippi 8-1 Ole Miss
Michigan St. 8-2 vs. Tennessee 7-1 Great game I would love to see. Could go either way. I will say MSU
Ohio St. 7-2 vs. Mississippi St. 7-2 no Sidney still beats the E Turner less Buckeyes.
Wisconsin 7-2 vs. South Carolina 6-2 Wisconsin despite the loss to Wisconsin Green Bay
Minnesota 7-3 vs. Vanderbilt 6-3 Vandy despite the loss to Western Kentucky
Penn St. 6-4 vs. LSU 5-2 Penn State
Michigan 5-4 Alabama 6-3 Tide rolls
Indiana 4-5 Auburn 5-4 Definitely the hoosiers
Iowa 3-7 Georgia 4-4 Georgia would win this game


SEC still winning the full conference challenge minus 1. Fun times. I do not know if anyone else is watching the Big 10 as much as I am, Indiana is better than their record, Northwestern is worse than. Their conference RPI cannot be great with the horrid non con losses and there is no way that when the polls come out Monday that the Big 10 will be on pace to equal the SEC. What about tournament bids? If the SEC gets 5 the Big 10 should equal it, but if the SEC gets 6? Minnesota is not as good as they should be under Tubby this year. Brave suspension can count for 1 loss maybe, but not 3. Wisconsin just looked awful against GB and then looked decent but not great against Marquette. Without Evan Turner the Buckeyes may not be a tournament team. I realize he is coming back, but will it be in time or will he have a transition back?

In sum there is no way someone can legitimately argue that the Big 10 is clearly better than the SEC at this point.
 
#58
#58
Dude, you lose. Deal.

And the SEC is not getting 6 bids. Absolutely no way in hell.

Also, Ogilvy just isn't that good. Vandy will continue to get beat by anyone who is the least bit physical. Florida will do the same.
 
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#60
MikeHamiltonFan said:
This is a brilliant argument. Your assertions are backed up with facts, the use of RPI, discussing personnel matchups...top notch stuff. You should ask for a job on CSS analyzing CBB.
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Wait, so my argument is weaker than your argument that is based entirely on predictions. You are an effing genius. It's cool, everyone will see how ridiculous this crap is come March. I'll leave you alone now, you apparently have plenty of basketball to watch before you get a clue.
 
#61
#61
Oh yeah, and Arizona still blows, too. Vandy sure does have a good OOC win to hang their hat on.
 
#62
#62
emainvol said:
Wait, so my argument is weaker than your argument that is based entirely on predictions. You are an effing genius. It's cool, everyone will see how ridiculous this crap is come March. I'll leave you alone now, you apparently have plenty of basketball to watch before you get a clue.
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It is based entirely on results!

Look at the RPI! Look at the wins and losses!

My predictions were based on very early returns. My preseason predictions were just based on roster and my view of a coaches ability.

The Arizona team may or may not be the worst in 25 years, if they are I will admit Hat was right. It surely looks like the wheels are coming off with the loss to the Aztecs.
 
#63
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MHF, you may as well go ahead and concede on Arizona. That's what makes pre-season and early season predictions so difficult for anyone to make. There simply isn't enough knowledge to make any realistic predictions, with the exception of a few teams that you know are going to be great.
 
#64
#64
MikeHamiltonFan said:
The Arizona team may or may not be the worst in 25 years, if they are I will admit Hat was right. It surely looks like the wheels are coming off with the loss to the Aztecs.
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It doesn't matter if they are or are not the worst Arizona team in 25 years. You said it was a good win for Vandy. You were wrong because Arizona sucks.
 
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#65
Good question for some of you folks. What happens Friday night in the Florida/Richmond game? I gotta think Richmond will be pumped for this one, but they will be walking into hostile territory. Another win against a major conference opponent will look good come selection time.
 
#66
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emainvol said:
Good question for some of you folks. What happens Friday night in the Florida/Richmond game? I gotta think Richmond will be pumped for this one, but they will be walking into hostile territory. Another win against a major conference opponent will look good come selection time.
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The crowd won't be a factor. The game is part of the Orange Bowl Classic doubleheader and that doesn't draw flies. Richmond hasn't been as good as I anticipated. Doesn't look like they've adjusted to having Geriot back as of yet. I think they are more likely to win at South Carolina Wednesday night than they are to beat Florida.
 
#67
#67
hatvol96 said:
The crowd won't be a factor. The game is part of the Orange Bowl Classic doubleheader and that doesn't draw flies. Richmond hasn't been as good as I anticipated. Doesn't look like they've adjusted to having Geriot back as of yet. I think they are more likely to win at South Carolina Wednesday night than they are to beat Florida.
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You think it corrects in time for them to make a run at the A-10? If not, who benefits the most? LaSalle?
 
#68
#68
emainvol said:
You think it corrects in time for them to make a run at the A-10? If not, who benefits the most? LaSalle?
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LaSalle's another team that hasn't been as good as I expected. Rhode Island is the A-10 team playing furthest above expectations right now. Temple isn't as big a surprise to me because I always assume Fran's teams will be good.
 
#69
#69
emainvol said:
You think it corrects in time for them to make a run at the A-10?
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They've certainly got time. If they split their games this week, that'll give them a decent enough nonconference resume. If they finish fourth or better in the A-10, that'll probably be enough to get them into the tournament. The main thing that will help them is if VCU and William & Mary both show well in the Colonial.
 
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#72
By the way MHF...Coastal Carolina, Western Carolina, and Long Beach St. are all better than Florida. Don't believe me? Check the RPI.
 
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