SEC going with 1 permanent?

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cwbytruckers said:
I dont blame them for not playing more than one P5 team when you have Florida, Georgia and Alabama on the schedule every year. Then you mix in the years we played Auburn or LSU or even Ole Miss when they are very good. Florida plays Georgia every year but its never in Athens which is a huge advantage. But up and down this league you can point to teams playing weak non conference teams and at times playing big non conference games. All in all in balances out over time.
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Bama being our permanent, no doubt has been a disadvantage since Saban was there, though, by and large we've not been good enough in that time for it to cost us anything. I am glad that whatever happens Florida and Georgia will see them much more frequently.
 
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Well this part’s fun:

It appears only five schools of the SEC's 14 current members support a nine-game league slate: Florida, Georgia, LSU, Missouri and Texas A&M. A simple majority of eight schools is needed for a deciding vote in either direction.
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Apparently, Tennessee is one of the 9 schools whose AD and coach are presumably arguing it’d be unfair to only have 1 American/CUSA/MAC/MWC/Sunbelt team instead of 2 American/CUSA/MAC/MWX/Sunbelts teams to go with the FCS team on the schedule.

SEC appears poised to stick with eight-game league schedule amid ongoing concerns about payments, playoff


(Also, sidebar, how weird is it that Missouri of all schools have been arguing in favor of a 9-game conference slate ever since they joined in 2012?…serious props to them I guess)
 
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TrueOrange said:
Well this part’s fun:



Apparently, Tennessee is one of the 9 schools whose AD and coach are presumably arguing it’d be unfair to only have 1 American/CUSA/MAC/MWC/Sunbelt team instead of 2 American/CUSA/MAC/MWX/Sunbelts teams to go with the FCS team on the schedule.

SEC appears poised to stick with eight-game league schedule amid ongoing concerns about payments, playoff


(Also, sidebar, how weird is it that Missouri of all schools have been arguing in favor of a 9-game conference slate ever since they joined in 2012?…serious props to them I guess)
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Hopefully this is just a 1 year thing. I think it’s a bad look for the conference and it short changes the fans.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Well this part’s fun:



Apparently, Tennessee is one of the 9 schools whose AD and coach are presumably arguing it’d be unfair to only have 1 American/CUSA/MAC/MWC/Sunbelt team instead of 2 American/CUSA/MAC/MWX/Sunbelts teams to go with the FCS team on the schedule.

SEC appears poised to stick with eight-game league schedule amid ongoing concerns about payments, playoff


(Also, sidebar, how weird is it that Missouri of all schools have been arguing in favor of a 9-game conference slate ever since they joined in 2012?…serious props to them I guess)
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That's crazy.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Well this part’s fun:



Apparently, Tennessee is one of the 9 schools whose AD and coach are presumably arguing it’d be unfair to only have 1 American/CUSA/MAC/MWC/Sunbelt team instead of 2 American/CUSA/MAC/MWX/Sunbelts teams to go with the FCS team on the schedule.

SEC appears poised to stick with eight-game league schedule amid ongoing concerns about payments, playoff


(Also, sidebar, how weird is it that Missouri of all schools have been arguing in favor of a 9-game conference slate ever since they joined in 2012?…serious props to them I guess)
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My suspicion would be that Dan White is playing chess, not checkers, at this meeting. And that your assumption about what he's arguing may not be correct.

He's probably working the margins of the conference, doing favors, gaining favors, using his vote strategically rather than tactically.

You notice most of the schools are vocally coming out on one side or the other. But a few are keeping mum. Those are the ones to watch, because they're working the room in a more profound way than the rest.

Go Vols!
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Hopefully this is just a 1 year thing. I think it’s a bad look for the conference and it short changes the fans.
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I’d probably lean towards two years. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they did four years so everyone can play home and home then move to nine games.
 
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The SEC will play 8 conference games in 2024, when Texas and Oklahoma join the conference. No divisions, 16 team league. -Trey Wallace via Twitter
 
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Boston Vol said:
I’d probably lean towards two years. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they did four years so everyone can play home and home then move to nine games.
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That definitely makes sense. I think a lot will depend on how the 12 team CFP values an 8 game conference schedule vs other conferences 9 game schedules. I think how much pushback they may receive from fans that want to see that extra conference home game as opposed to The Citadel .
 
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Tin Man said:
Long ago, Vandy was the collegiate football power in the south. They owned everybody, including Bama. UT hired Neyland to beat Vandy. Neyland’s Vols did just that, and the history of Tennessee football took a delightful turn for the better.
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Vandy’s record against UT since Gen. Neyland’s first win: 14-77-2
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
My suspicion would be that Dan White is playing chess, not checkers, at this meeting. And that your assumption about what he's arguing may not be correct.

He's probably working the margins of the conference, doing favors, gaining favors, using his vote strategically rather than tactically.

You notice most of the schools are vocally coming out on one side or the other. But a few are keeping mum. Those are the ones to watch, because they're working the room in a more profound way than the rest.

Go Vols!
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The whole thing is a sham to get more money out of ESPN. I suspect everyone who has said anything is playing a Sankey designated good cop-bad cop role. I called this whole strategy on the first page of this thread over a week ago.

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unfrozencvmanvol said:
The whole thing is a sham to get more money out of ESPN. I suspect everyone who has said anything is playing a Sankey designated good cop-bad cop role. I called this whole strategy on the first page of this thread over a week ago.

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I agreed. Although, I didn’t want you to be right. I wanted the 9 games next season.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I agreed. Although, I didn’t want you to be right. I wanted the 9 games next season.
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I didn't want me to be right either. I wage a constant internal war between the fan who was the kid who originally fell in love with this game and UT football and the jaded pragmatist my professional life turned me into, lol.
 
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onevol74 said:
That made no sense that the conference did this.
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They made us cancel our scheduled 2024 game with OU also for the same reason. That was before Texas & OU's entrance got moved up to 2024. Now we'll probably play that game anyway.
 
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Vfl2407 said:
If you don’t give Vandy Tennessee, you might as well kick them out of the SEC.
Plus in your scenario, Texas gets OU and Ark but not TAMU. That makes no sense.
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Yeah it does, nobody cares about A&M. Regardless, Ark and Texas would be an old rivalry found new again. Lastly, I have no issue with kicking Vandy out of the SEC, they bring nothing to the table!
 
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EODVOL said:
Yeah it does, nobody cares about A&M. Regardless, Ark and Texas would be an old rivalry found new again. Lastly, I have no issue with kicking Vandy out of the SEC, they bring nothing to the table!
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I agree about not wishing Vandy and TAMU were in the conference. But since they are, the SEC has to look at who their biggest rivals are. For Vandy, that’s Tennessee and for TAMU, it’s Texas.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Well this part’s fun:



Apparently, Tennessee is one of the 9 schools whose AD and coach are presumably arguing it’d be unfair to only have 1 American/CUSA/MAC/MWC/Sunbelt team instead of 2 American/CUSA/MAC/MWX/Sunbelts teams to go with the FCS team on the schedule.

SEC appears poised to stick with eight-game league schedule amid ongoing concerns about payments, playoff


(Also, sidebar, how weird is it that Missouri of all schools have been arguing in favor of a 9-game conference slate ever since they joined in 2012?…serious props to them I guess)
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I think it is boiling down to the need for a home sellout every two years as a windfall for Mizzou's athletic dept. They've been in the red for years, and just last year, finally, had enough income to cover expenses.

Mizzou athletics out of the red, reports first budget surplus in six years under Desiree Reed-Francois

With this budget situation at Mizzou in perspective, I am surprised Vandy, OM, MissSt, and USCjr are taking the 8 conference game stance.
 
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Some votes to stay at 8 games instead of 9 may be because of ESPN was not willing to come up with enough cash for the additional game.

Could be a negotiation tactic as much as anything.
 
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i could see this happening:


Alabama-Auburn
UGA-South Carolina
Ole Miss-MS State
OU-Texas
LSU-Florida
Vandy-Missouri
Kentucky-Tennessee
Texas AM-Arkansas

proximity and border wars
 
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