SEC in 06

#26
#26
If Shane Matthews can win the SEC, then Blake Mitchell will win the SEC East next year at 6-2.

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#27
#27
Originally posted by lawgator1@Dec 2, 2005 12:30 PM
From my completely objective point of view as a Gator fan (lol), I have to agree that UF on paper makes the most sense for the SEC East, but its not overwhelming, especially because of the schedule.  The season could be a repeat of this year for the SEC East (and West), with no team being able to dominate the others all season long so as to emerge as clearly the best.

I mean, UF beat UT and Ga., but Ga. was without Shockley that day.  USC almost beat Georgia and did beat Florida.  Florida barely lost to LSU, but UT had a great victory there.  Florida got blown out by Alabama, but UT barely lost to 'bama.  UT lost to Vandy, and Floride beat Vandy.  It goes on and on.

As I've said before, the SEC just has a bunch of parity right now.  Hard to tell whether everyone is just mediocre or everyone just really has strengths that come to the fore here and there in different games.  As a life-long SEC fan, I'm leaning towards the latter.
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I agree with you completely, that's why no one would be suprised if a TN or UGA won the East, but i'm just saying as it stands today, UF has to be the favorite...USC is the sleeper in the East.
 
#28
#28
Originally posted by jakez4ut@Dec 2, 2005 11:01 AM
I'm curious as to why you don't think UF will win it next year?  the schedule has been brought up and that's a valid arguement...it is tough....but i just don't think it's fair to expect that TN will win it....

UF has the most people returning on both sides of the ball, at least at positions that will matter a great deal, than UGA and UT...USC, well, i think they did a nice job this year, but they won't sneak up on anyone...UT as USC will be tough granted.

But UF has the least amount of questions to be answered from a skill position standpoint...and after a full season in this offense, and a full off season to evaluate and practice, you have got the makings of a good run by that UF team....again it makes me sick  :disappointed: to even say that, but UGA, TN have too many questions, and until USC starts to make thier run i can't say they're the favorite either....

And as i've said before in this thread...while UF's schedule is rough, if they beat UT and UGA...they have the upper hand...that would put each of us with one loss, and since UT/UGA play each other, one of us will have a 2nd loss eliminating the loser from the scene...and the winner will still have to play LSU (TN) and Aub (GA), which both are capable of losing...thus putting all the pressure on UF.

The wild card is USC.  If they beat UF and either Ga or TN...then it becomes sticky.....but let's see if that happens first....

Besides i want UF to be the favorite, i want everyone under the sun singing thier praises, have a high pre season ranking, which if they win their bowl game, i can almost assure you they will be top 5 in pre season...Let's see how UM does with all the pressure of a fan base with sky high expectations and the media 2nd guessing everything he does...remember, he'll have a bit of a qb contraversy as well if CL doesn't get it together with that offense or UM doesn't taylor it more to CL's skill sets....you could see a lot of Josh Portis if the latter doesn't happen....

either way it should be very ineteresting....
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Yeah I wish UF would be up their in the rankings too & Tennessee give them their first loss. Maybe that would be a good start for UT's season next year. The reason I didnt think Florida would win it was because of their Schedule, but if they can get past UT and GA they have a good chance.
 
#29
#29
The winner of the East may have 3 losses next yr. UT and UGA go to SC and that could go either way.

UF has a killer schedule but will probably be odds on to win the East..but I think they'll finish 2nd behind either UT or UGA.
 
#30
#30
Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Dec 2, 2005 5:23 PM
The winner of the East may have 3 losses next yr. UT and UGA go to SC and that could go either way.

UF has a killer schedule but will probably be odds on to win the East..but I think they'll finish 2nd behind either UT or UGA.
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really? I'd think if i were a UF fan, i'd love my position in the East regardless of the schedule...you have to like your chances over UT and UGA....both have tons of questions going in to next year...and USC, well, they are the wild card....but the West will be better than the East, at least on top anyway, so if i'm a Florida fan, i'd like my chances. Even with a loss against Aub and/or LSU or Bama....you could lose all three, but beat UT, UGA, and USC and be just fine.
 
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Originally posted by jakez4ut@Dec 2, 2005 4:50 PM
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Tough to call though. So many unknowns. We'll know more next Sept.
 
#34
#34
oh yeah i know...just thinking along the lines of how the pre season stuff will shape up....

as we ALL KNOW TOO WELL...pre season don't mean crap...but that's how i see it shaping up...
 
#35
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Originally posted by jakez4ut@Dec 2, 2005 5:29 PM
really?  I'd think if i were a UF fan, i'd love my position in the East regardless of the schedule...you have to like your chances over UT and UGA....both have tons of questions going in to next year...and USC, well, they are the wild card....but the West will be better than the East, at least on top anyway, so if i'm a Florida fan, i'd like my chances.  Even with a loss against Aub and/or LSU or Bama....you could lose all three, but beat UT, UGA, and USC and be just fine.
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I do love the Gators position and playing East teams..look back for the past decade or so and you'll see the Gators have a nice lead in games vs East Opponents..the problem with the Gators is against the West teams...even whe Spurrier was there he'd drop a game or two to them!
 
#36
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Originally posted by Liper@Dec 2, 2005 4:39 PM
1. FL
2. GA
3. TN
4. SC
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SC reminds me a lot of the 04 Vols. Won a few more games than they "should have". I have a feeling they could easily drop games to Fl, GA, and UT next year. IMO.
 
#37
#37
east

1 florida
2 S.C
3 georgia
4 vols
5 vandy
6 kentucky

west

1 LSU
2 auburn
3 arkansas
4 alabama
5 ole miss
6 miss st.
 
#38
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Originally posted by smokedog#3@Dec 2, 2005 5:50 PM
east

1 florida
2 S.C
3 georgia
4 vols
5 vandy
6 kentucky

west

1 LSU
2 auburn
3 arkansas
4 alabama
5 ole miss
6 miss st.
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I agree except that I do think that S.C. is due to retreat. i think tenn and fla have the horses next year to be there with georgia and s.c. is just not there, yet.
 
#39
#39
Originally posted by smokedog#3@Dec 2, 2005 5:50 PM
east

1 florida
2 S.C
3 georgia
4 vols
5 vandy
6 kentucky

west

1 LSU
2 auburn
3 arkansas
4 alabama
5 ole miss
6 miss st.
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South Carolina as #2 in the east =crack pipes.

I see UT and Florida fighting over #1
Then whoever lost UT and Forida as #2
UGA as 3, SC as 4, Vandy and the Cats to follow.

:lol: SC as number 2, man you kill me.
 
#40
#40
south carolina is going to do nothing, but get better. they have a better coach, we will lose to them next year and finish behind them in the east. there is a real good chance we will lose to florida, georgia, and S.C. lsu will beat us next year i believe. we lose alot on defense and i really don't think our offense even though fulmer said it will be better, i really don't believe him. 4th in the east sounds right on.
 
#41
#41
Originally posted by smokedog#3@Dec 2, 2005 9:57 PM
south carolina is going to do nothing,  but get better.  they have a better coach,  we will lose to them next year and finish behind them in the east.  there is a real good chance we will lose to florida,  georgia, and S.C.  lsu will beat us next year i believe.  we lose alot on defense and i really don't think our offense even though fulmer said it will be better,  i really don't believe him.  4th in the east sounds right on.
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Everyone's opinion matters. I hope you are not right though.

Yeah we lose on D. But we have the talent to be a whole team again.
 
#42
#42
UGA - LSU again

In 2002, UGA lost too much on D to win the East. They did.
2003, UGA lost too much on the OL and D to win the East. They did
In 2005, UGA lost too much all over the board to win the East. They did.
In 2006, you get the story.

Being under-dogs helps them.
 
#43
#43
Originally posted by U-T@Dec 4, 2005 4:20 PM
UGA - LSU again

In 2002, UGA lost too much on D to win the East. They did.
2003, UGA lost too much on the OL and D to win the East. They did
In 2005, UGA lost too much all over the board to win the East. They did.
In 2006, you get the story.

Being under-dogs helps them.
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Phil Fulmer is no Mark Richt.
 
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Originally posted by oklavol@Dec 4, 2005 3:19 PM
Phil Fulmer is no Mark Richt.
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You're right. He has a National Title and can beat UF
 
#46
#46
Originally posted by bleedingorange@Dec 4, 2005 6:39 PM
but he cant beat Richt
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Exactly. And if he can't beat Richt he will never see a NC again.
 
#47
#47
This is not a bash on CPF, but a compliment to Richt.

He has won as many (2) SECCs as CPF has in 14 seasons.

He has a 4-1 record against Fulmer.

In 5 years he has played in the SECCG 3 times and won 2.

Fulmer has been a good coach, but Richt is surely deserving of respect in that same category.

 
#48
#48
South Carolina will get better but not catch UF and UT off guard like this season. Think UT will come back next year with a vengence. Talent was there this year but not the fundamentals. The fundamentals creep back in and we contend for the East. Gamecocks think might get third in the east.
 
#49
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Originally posted by hohenfelsvol@Dec 5, 2005 1:29 PM
South Carolina will get better but not catch UF and UT off guard like this season.  Think UT will come back next year with a vengence.  Talent was there this year but not the fundamentals.  The fundamentals creep back in and we contend for the East.  Gamecocks think might get third in the east.
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I agree that UT will be back next year. That game against Florida will tell you a lot. You get it at home, I assume as early as this year, and if you win it you have the scene set for a major run.

The thing is, even if you lose that game, you cannot react by folding up like a cheap tent -- like you did this year after some tough losses. If this year taught us anything, it is that it ain't over until its over. Even if you lose two games in the SEC, you still have a darn good chance of winning your division and then you are 60 minutes way from either the Sugar or the Orange and $14 million.

If you lose to Florida early, there will be tens of thousands of folks screaming for Fulmer's head and complaining about the QB's, etc. If that happens next year as it did this year, then the measure of your team's character (and chances to get back in it) will be measured by how quickly they regroup. This year the team's dissapointment at not having as good a year as it had hoped, just 6 weeks into the season, spelled doom the rest of the way.

 
#50
#50
The good things about next year's Florida game is that it's at home, we have an extra game prior to playing Florida and it won't be out first test of the year since we open with Cal.
 
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