SEC Office should move to Charlotte

#78
#78
onevol74 said:
Tennessee fans travel just as well to New Orleans, Dallas, or any Florida bowl. We had a minimum of 40,000 fans in Tempe, Arizona. I would also guess that Tennessee would have more fans than that if we were ever to play in the Rose Bowl again.

Yes, Atlanta is closer but what is there to do in Atlanta year after year? And if the league wants to show it is living in the 2000's and not just a regional product they need to show some flexibility. Face it, the SEC just wants to make things easy for Alabama and Georgia if they have a preference. And Georgia is the red headed step child.
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Tennessee fan traveled all those places with a month of lead time and the extra flights added around the holiday season to accommodate fans going to those bowl games. That doesn’t exist for Dallas or Orlando for a conference championship game that you may only get six days worth of notice for. Again, the only times the SEC championship game has not sold out has been when one of the teams was not driving distance from the stadium. That suggests that proximity is the biggest factor.

What is there to do in Atlanta every year? Have you been to Atlanta? You could do something different every day and it would take you a year to knock out just the activities within 2 miles of the stadium.
 
#79
#79
I posted this about a year ago on another Vol message board. I was attacked like I called Robert Neyland a little league coach.

Get it outta Birmingham.
 
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#80
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Hehehehehe. You'd be surprised.

You can't answer WHAT all those Bama fans are somehow ACTUALLY DOING to make the SEC pro-Bama though can you?
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Sure, I can provide realistic, though hypothetical, examples:

-- Some staff scheduler has the responsibility each year to put together options for the future year's schedule. He or she gets input from all the universities, like "Florida would like to play Tennessee in August this year, we like the heat," or "Alabama wants its bye week on the second Saturday of October, please." This staffer also gets guidelines from the bosses, and has some standing rules to follow. But even with all those strictures, that staffer is still free to come up with the options their boss is going to choose from. And they still have wiggle room that might favor this program or that program a little more than the others. That's power. And it is being exercised by SOMEone, whoever they are, every single year.

-- Some Keeper of the Rule Book decides, in great detail, what procedures will change in the SEC next year. They get proposals from all the universities, and have to "rack and stack" those into something the conference leadership can decide on. Probably something along the lines of a semi-annual or annual board where a series of proposed changes are reviewed, their pros and cons described, and a recommendation given. Then the leadership decides on each proposal. Well, the person presenting the pros and cons has a HUGE amount of power influencing the bosses' decisions.

-- Finally, the instant replay review office, called the "SEC Video Center," where every single play of every SEC match is reviewed and decided. It is the final authority on every call. And the fellas who man it live and raise their families...in Birmingham, Alabama. Think they're unbiased? Think their family and friends and neighbors have no influence, even subjective, on their motivations and viewpoints? How many humans do you know who are truly unbiased when it comes to sports?

And that's just three scenarios. Out of dozens, or even hundreds. There are a lot of moving parts in the SEC HQ. And all those moving parts are being moved by...people. People who live and go to church and go out to eat and mow their lawn and drink beer with buddies...in Birmingham, Alabama.

Does this kind of crap really happen? Yes, all the time, in every large organization. A staffer has the power of controlling the framework of the conversation.

Go Vols!
 
#81
#81
VFL-82-JP said:
Sure, I can provide realistic, though hypothetical, examples:

-- Some staff scheduler has the responsibility each year to put together options for the future year's schedule. He or she gets input from all the universities, like "Florida would like to play Tennessee in August this year, we like the heat," or "Alabama wants its bye week on the second Saturday of October, please." This staffer also gets guidelines from the bosses, and has some standing rules to follow. But even with all those strictures, that staffer is still free to come up with the options their boss is going to choose from. And they still have wiggle room that might favor this program or that program a little more than the others. That's power. And it is being exercised by SOMEone, whoever they are, every single year.

-- Some Keeper of the Rule Book decides, in great detail, what procedures will change in the SEC next year. They get proposals from all the universities, and have to "rack and stack" those into something the conference leadership can decide on. Probably something along the lines of a semi-annual or annual board where a series of proposed changes are reviewed, their pros and cons described, and a recommendation given. Then the leadership decides on each proposal. Well, the person presenting the pros and cons has a HUGE amount of power influencing the bosses' decisions.

-- Finally, the instant replay review office, called the "SEC Video Center," where every single play of every SEC match is reviewed and decided. It is the final authority on every call. And the fellas who man it live and raise their families...in Birmingham, Alabama. Think they're unbiased? Think their family and friends and neighbors have no influence, even subjective, on their motivations and viewpoints? How many humans do you know who are truly unbiased when it comes to sports?

And that's just three scenarios. Out of dozens, or even hundreds. There are a lot of moving parts in the SEC HQ. And all those moving parts are being moved by...people. People who live and go to church and go out to eat and mow their lawn and drink beer with buddies...in Birmingham, Alabama.

Does this kind of crap really happen? Yes, all the time, in every large organization. A staffer has the power of controlling the framework of the conversation.

Go Vols!
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I feel certain tentative schedules pass by each AD and HC before being confirmed. If White or Heupel feel we're getting the short end, I'm certain they can appeal to someone other than a scheduler.

Rule changes cannot be that blatant to favor a team and each team has a rep in the room, as I understand, to state their case if they object to proposed changes.

Officiating is handled poorly by the SEC in general. I was very critical of the TN v Bama game calls as one-sided and many national sports pundits were also. It was terrible. The crew in the replay booth are either current or retired officials and that's a job that will move with the office. Those people, like Sankey, will be as biased as they are wherever they are.

I get your concerns. Our AD has the job in the SEC of lobbying for our interests AND reporting corruption in the main office if they see it or experience it. After the Bama game, I can only imagine that Danny White lit up Greg Sankey's phone and hopefully asked for and received a review of the game with the replay staff. It was awful. Lots of officiating in the SEC was awful.

I'm not a believer that IF the SEC wants to be corrupt from the top down that the location of the office will change the result much. I do see how you view it and I do have experience "in the middle" of the politics of a very large business.

My experience taught me that the higher the bias, the more effective it was. They simply ignored and eliminated "noncompliant" projects and ideas like Congress "sends it to committee" to never be seen again.

But I hear you and I'm not against the SEC from Bham if it makes folks rest easier, I just think the problems will move with it.
 
#82
#82
SEC Network is already in Charlotte (collocated with ACC channel I think).

Nashville makes more sense though, from Mizzou to SCAR to Austin to Gainesville to Norman to Lexington, fairly in the middle of it all.
 
#83
#83
SEC Baseball tournament in Nashville would be packed!

Who wants to go to Hoover instead of Music City?
 
#84
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HuntlandVolinColo said:
SEC Network is already in Charlotte (collocated with ACC channel I think).

Nashville makes more sense though, from Mizzou to SCAR to Austin to Gainesville to Norman to Lexington, fairly in the middle of it all.
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ACC Network is in Bristol.

The SEC Network is located in Charlotte because as ESPN was preparing to start it, they were also shutting down their NASCAR channel. As they already had staff and a studio in place, they just converted the previous NASCAR network resources to the SEC network
 
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#86
EBFVOL said:
Move to Nashville it’s Vandy only hope…
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Honestly, this isn't a bad idea. It's a hub city of the south and Vandy has jack for influence on the conference. I don't think that we have enough pull at this present time to be given "preferential" treatment so they can't point the finger at us.
 
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#87
#87
It would actually make a lot of sense for the SEC HQ to be in Memphis. Pretty geographically centered. Multiple SEC programs close.

Honestly, the TN state government should offer some kind of incentive package to steal them from Alabama.
 
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