SEC Reprimands Fulmer

#26
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rexvol said:
of course he's upset with the ref's, but what call did the ref's blow that caused that beat down in fayettville? Fulmer needs to accept the fact that the ref's very rarely lose games for a team, more often it's poor coaching....
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If you actually read the article, he didn't mention Arkansas. I think everyone and their brother can just accept that as beatdown and move on.

Now, if that WAS a fumble by LSU in the last minutes, that would have resulted in a win for us. That would mean we would only have 2 losses and be in the hunt for a much better bowl.

When refs make those kind of mistakes WITH a replay system, they deserve to be criticized and Fulmer is right for calling them out.

Play your poor coaching harp all you want, but there are some things in the game that are out of the coaches hands.
 
#27
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OWB said:
If you actually read the article, he didn't mention Arkansas. I think everyone and their brother can just accept that as beatdown and move on.

Now, if that WAS a fumble by LSU in the last minutes, that would have resulted in a win for us. That would mean we would only have 2 losses and be in the hunt for a much better bowl.

When refs make those kind of mistakes WITH a replay system, they deserve to be criticized and Fulmer is right for calling them out.

Play your poor coaching harp all you want, but there are some things in the game that are out of the coaches hands.
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That LSU non-call, non review that ultimately coast us the LSU game IMO, mirrors the non call/ non review Colts vs Cowboys game which cost the Colts the game.I thought all close calls were to be reviewed in the booth upstairs.I think as GV mentioned somewhere on here,they might as well get rid of it all.
 
#28
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utfantilidie said:
That LSU non-call, non review that ultimately coast us the LSU game IMO, mirrors the non call/ non review Colts vs Cowboys game which cost the Colts the game.I thought all close calls were to be reviewed in the booth upstairs.I think as GV mentioned somewhere on here,they might as well get rid of it all.
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The play was rendered nonreviewable when the whistle blew early.
 
#29
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GAVol said:
The play was rendered nonreviewable when the whistle blew early.
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I believe the NFL now allows this type of situation to be reviewed, the case of the whistle blowing too soon. Although, I think it also has to definitely show who recovered the ball.
 
#30
#30
I thought the whistle blew after the fumble, but that they applied the "whistle rule" retroactively to an earlier stage of the play under the assumption that he was "down" before the fumble was reviewable.
 
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Liper said:
I thought the whistle blew after the fumble, but that they applied the "whistle rule" retroactively to an earlier stage of the play under the assumption that he was "down" before the fumble was reviewable.
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I heard Coach Fulmer talking on his show and this is what I thought he was saying.
 
#32
#32
IMO CPF has you all drinking his koolaid on this one. The no-call on Morely's muffed punt return where it pretty clearly hit is arm affected the outcome every bit as much as the alleged no-call on Russell's fumble. TCHFCATUTK is just trying a little late season misdirection here because he knows that a lot of fans got so mad over '05 that a 3-conference loss season is not going to make them happy campers again. Ergo, try to convince everyone that there were only two conference losses because the refs stole the LSU game from UT.
 
#33
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Liper said:
I thought the whistle blew after the fumble, but that they applied the "whistle rule" retroactively to an earlier stage of the play under the assumption that he was "down" before the fumble was reviewable.
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If the whistle blows while the ball is loose, the play is immediately over. Since no one had the ball when the play was blown dead, it goes back to LSU.
 
#34
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
IMO CPF has you all drinking his koolaid on this one. The no-call on Morely's muffed punt return where it pretty clearly hit is arm affected the outcome every bit as much as the alleged no-call on Russell's fumble. TCHFCATUTK is just trying a little late season misdirection here because he knows that a lot of fans got so mad over '05 that a 3-conference loss season is not going to make them happy campers again. Ergo, try to convince everyone that there were only two conference losses because the refs stole the LSU game from UT.
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Hillbilly, CPF told me to tell you to Eat his fried chicken, eat his fried chicken, everybody wants a piece of Phils fried chicken.:dance2:
 
#35
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
IMO CPF has you all drinking his koolaid on this one. The no-call on Morely's muffed punt return where it pretty clearly hit is arm affected the outcome every bit as much as the alleged no-call on Russell's fumble. TCHFCATUTK is just trying a little late season misdirection here because he knows that a lot of fans got so mad over '05 that a 3-conference loss season is not going to make them happy campers again. Ergo, try to convince everyone that there were only two conference losses because the refs stole the LSU game from UT.
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Some may drink and apparantly some just throw-it-up. :sick:

I've seen a clear replay of Russel's fumble. However, I've not seen anything proving that the ball actually touched Morely.
 
#36
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
IMO CPF has you all drinking his koolaid on this one. The no-call on Morely's muffed punt return where it pretty clearly hit is arm affected the outcome every bit as much as the alleged no-call on Russell's fumble. TCHFCATUTK is just trying a little late season misdirection here because he knows that a lot of fans got so mad over '05 that a 3-conference loss season is not going to make them happy campers again. Ergo, try to convince everyone that there were only two conference losses because the refs stole the LSU game from UT.
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I don't think TCHFCATUTK is nearly that calculated in his actions.
 
#37
#37
Coach Fulmer is exactly right about this. The officiating has been horrible this year in many games and the SEC had better look into it and get them doing it right. He has reason to believe that the fumble on the last drive by LSU did cost us the game. We did lose that one and should not have. We would only have 2 losses this year if not for the refs. :yes:
 
#38
#38
Not sure how many saw the Cal-USC game, but that game showed just how truly bad replay is.

Cal threw what appeared to be a TD pass, so USC challenged it on the grounds the receiver came in from out of bounds to make the catch.

TD overruled.

Cal, then, challenged the reviewers call. The TD was reinstated due to the ball being tipped off a USc player. The reviewer HAD to see the tip when he overturned the TD the first time, so why couldn't he just uphold the inital call on the field?!?!

All it resulted in was 20 minutes of reviewing for a play called correctly on the field initially.

Pretty damn sad.
 
#39
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allvol said:
Some may drink and apparantly some just throw-it-up. :sick:

I've seen a clear replay of Russel's fumble. However, I've not seen anything proving that the ball actually touched Morely.
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I thought that was rather obvious... the ball changed direction and everything upon "touching" Morley's hand. Morley pulled his hand back and threw both arms up in the air for a reason...
 
#40
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tidwell said:
I thought that was rtaher obvious... the ball changed direction and everything upon "touching" Morley's hand. Morley pulled his hand back and threw both arms up in the air for a reason...
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I agree. Morley doesn't have the exaggerated response if he hadn't touched. "Methinks he doth protest too much."
 
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tidwell said:
I thought that was rather obvious... the ball changed direction and everything upon "touching" Morley's hand. Morley pulled his hand back and threw both arms up in the air for a reason...
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Still yet, they didn't call it.It was reviewed.
 
#43
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I'm certainly not complaining about the outcome of that call :)... but I firmly believe the Vols caught a huge break.
 
#44
#44
I agree with the Coach on this one. I also think that Hat, Hillbilly and Rex should go in a room and fight it out to see which one is King NegaVol and the other two would be the royal clowns. :biggrin:
 
#45
#45
Had Morley touched the ball, he would have jumped all over the ground trying to recover it. He threw his hands up, because he DIDN'T touch it.
 
#46
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OrangePappy said:
I agree with the Coach on this one. I also think that Hat, Hillbilly and Rex should go in a room and fight it out to see which one is King NegaVol and the other two would be the royal clowns. :biggrin:
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Someone from Ringgold discussing matters of intellect. That's rich.
 
#47
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rexvol said:
of course he's upset with the ref's, but what call did the ref's blow that caused that beat down in fayettville? Fulmer needs to accept the fact that the ref's very rarely lose games for a team, more often it's poor coaching....
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Could you please point out to me where the Hog game was mentioned here in this thread or anywhere else regarding this topic!!!!!!!!!!:rtfm:
 
#49
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OrangeSquare said:
Had Morley touched the ball, he would have jumped all over the ground trying to recover it. He threw his hands up, because he DIDN'T touch it.
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Or he was just trying to sell it... and he did a good job of it.

Either way, it turned out good for the Vols.
 
#50
#50
There was never any video evidence it hit him.

The way a ball spins once it bounces can be one of several different ways.

Only Morley knows for sure if it hit him.

He has been coached for almost 10 years to cover the ball when it touches him and he never even flinched toward recovering the ball.

I'll ask him next time I see him, until then, I'll go with the law of averages.
 
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