SEC Standings-Updated- 1-26-24

#26
#26
Orangeslide said:
I hope Bama can get Pearl and his Auburn home boys Wednesday night in Bama. Bama should be motivated to play after their abysmal showing against us. Auburn is really good……… Pearl will so juiced and red-faced on the sideline, should be interesting with the officials. I think you may see a T in this game for Pearl or Oats or both.
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I agree and I hate saying this but I’m rooting for Bama as well. Just from comparing our schedule to Auburn’s, these are the games we need them to lose. College basketball is all over the place tho and anybody can lose at any time and we still have a long way to go and many games left to play.
 
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BallerVolFan said:
I agree and I hate saying this but I’m rooting for Bama as well. Just from comparing our schedule to Auburn’s, these are the games we need them to lose. College basketball is all over the place tho and anybody can lose at any time and we still have a long way to go and many games left to play.
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We should be rooting for every team that plays Auburn to beat them. Even Alabama and Kentucky. We have 3 more games against the Tide and Cats. We only have 1 against Auburn and with their weak schedule we need them to lose most of the toss-up games they have if we want to win the conference.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
We should be rooting for every team that plays Auburn to beat them. Even Alabama and Kentucky. We have 3 more games against the Tide and Cats. We only have 1 against Auburn and with their weak schedule we need them to lose most of the toss-up games they have if we want to win the conference.
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Like Baller said, this is the week with Auburn at Bama and at Miss St. If Auburn goes 2-0 this week they will win the SEC easily.
 
#29
#29
TheMookieMonster said:
True. Don't get me wrong, I think Kentucky is very good. I wouldn't be surprised to see them win the conference. But I don't thin they are as well-rounded as Auburn or Tennessee. Their shot-making is impressive, but they are giving up 70+ points to basically any team with a pulse. Since the North Carolina game on December 16th (where their schedule began to toughen up), their opponents are averaging 81 PPG. I'm not entirely sure that they can sustain that level of defense and win a national championship or conference title.

I guess I'll put my money where my mouth is and circle back and say, yes, I do think Kentucky will drop another game before they play us. In order of difficulty, I would say it is Arkansas (A), Florida (H), South Carolina (A), Georgia (H).
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That State loss is going to be looked at all season a missed golden opportunity Bad loss, no, but that chance to steal an invaluable road game was missed can be the difference in a championship, especially with how difficult the road is.
 
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whobethis16 said:
That State loss is going to be looked at all season a missed golden opportunity Bad loss, no, but that chance to steal an invaluable road game was missed can be the difference in a championship, especially with how difficult the road is.
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Auburn will falter they haven’t played anybody
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
So, UK isn't losing another game until the final game of the season, huh? You seriously believe that?

I'm willing to empty my bank account right now to make that bet with you if you'd like. In fact, I bet you they lose again before we even play them in Rupp on February 3rd.
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NostraMookie. But I’m not going to pat myself on the back too much because how hard is it really to predict a loss for a team with a defense that pathetic?
 
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whobethis16 said:
Maybe, but having to beg for them to lose to help is not ever a position you want to be in.
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It's early and you're right auburn will prolly go undefeated bc their game translates to on road as well as home. Oh wait. They lost to app state on road. They aren't the undefeated hoosiers team. They will lose and they did. Having said that, they play an easier schedule than both us and ky. So auburn will prolly win the sec boss. Be prepared for that.
 
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#42
I’m curious if someone can explain this to me. NET rankings is the topic.

Team A: 17-2 record; 2-2 road; 4-0 neutral; 11-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 5-2; 2-0; 3-0; 7-0

Team B: 18-2 record; 3-2 road; 5-0 neutral; 10-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 7-2; 4-0; 4-0; 3-0

Team B (Purdue) literally has a better record everywhere except 1 less home win and 4 less Quad 4 wins. They have more road, neutral, Quad 1 (by 2 games), Quad 2 (by 2 games) and Quad 3 wins than Team A (Houston). So how is Houston ranked first through last night’s games and Purdue is 2nd? Aren’t all Quad 1 games the same or is there something that says playing a highly ranked Quad 1 team is better than a lower ranked Quad 1 team. Or is something else causing the clearly better resume of Purdue, according to this Quad system, to fall behind Houston’s?
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I’m curious if someone can explain this to me. NET rankings is the topic.

Team A: 17-2 record; 2-2 road; 4-0 neutral; 11-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 5-2; 2-0; 3-0; 7-0

Team B: 18-2 record; 3-2 road; 5-0 neutral; 10-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 7-2; 4-0; 4-0; 3-0

Team B (Purdue) literally has a better record everywhere except 1 less home win and 4 less Quad 4 wins. They have more road, neutral, Quad 1 (by 2 games), Quad 2 (by 2 games) and Quad 3 wins than Team A (Houston). So how is Houston ranked first through last night’s games and Purdue is 2nd? Aren’t all Quad 1 games the same or is there something that says playing a highly ranked Quad 1 team is better than a lower ranked Quad 1 team. Or is something else causing the clearly better resume of Purdue, according to this Quad system, to fall behind Houston’s?
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I’m no expert, but right now these ranking are just popularity contests. All the “quad” weighting is what the committee uses to select the March madness field.
 
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#45
One more and this one seems even more strange.

Team A: 14-5 record; 1-3 road; 3-0 neutral; 10-2 home. Quad recs 1-4: 3-4; 1-1; 1-0; 9-0

Team B: 16-3 record; 4-0 road; 3-3 neutral; 9-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 4-3; 3-0; 4-0; 5-0

Team B (UNC) is 2 games better overall, has a far better road record, a worse neutral record but that’s easily offset by the road difference, a better home record, and better record for Quads 1, 2, and 3. Yet, somehow they’re ranked 1 spot behind Team A (BYU). Makes zero sense based on what I think I know of the NET rankings.
 
#46
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walkenvol said:
I’m no expert, but right now these ranking are just popularity contests. All the “quad” weighting is what the committee uses to select the March madness field.
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I don’t think so. There’s a formula. Maybe there are other factors behind the scenes. When I get more time I’ll dig into that as that’s the only thing I can think of as an answer. These rankings are definitely formulaic though.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
One more and this one seems even more strange.

Team A: 14-5 record; 1-3 road; 3-0 neutral; 10-2 home. Quad recs 1-4: 3-4; 1-1; 1-0; 9-0

Team B: 16-3 record; 4-0 road; 3-3 neutral; 9-0 home. Quad recs 1-4: 4-3; 3-0; 4-0; 5-0

Team B (UNC) is 2 games better overall, has a far better road record, a worse neutral record but that’s easily offset by the road difference, a better home record, and better record for Quads 1, 2, and 3. Yet, somehow they’re ranked 1 spot behind Team A (BYU). Makes zero sense based on what I think I know of the NET rankings.
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There’s a formula and it consists of 4 parts.

1. Team Value Index
2. Net Efficiency
3. Winning %
4. Adjusted Win %

Team Value Index
This pretty much just accounts for the opponent, the location of the game, and the winner. It’s a results based metric that rewards teams for beating other good teams (reason for the Quad system).

Net Efficiency
This is essentially offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency. If you look at KenPom, the overall composite number is just net efficiency.

Winning %
Straightforward. Wins divided by # of games played

Adjusted Winning %
Same as winning % above but road games and neutral games are weighted more than home games.
 
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#49
Rememberthelate90s said:
It's early and you're right auburn will prolly go undefeated bc their game translates to on road as well as home. Oh wait. They lost to app state on road. They aren't the undefeated hoosiers team. They will lose and they did. Having said that, they play an easier schedule than both us and ky. So auburn will prolly win the sec boss. Be prepared for that.
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You're all over the place with the point you're trying to make. I never said they would go undefeated, nor that they were the same both on the road and at home. What I said was that the Miss State loss will be one that is looked back on as a missed opportunity to get a road win, largely due to the points you made at the end. If it comes down to losing the SEC by 1 game to them, that State loss should be the first circled.

And I also never mentioned Auburn, because it could still be Kentucky or Alabama as well.
 
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BallerVolFan said:
There’s a formula and it consists of 4 parts.

1. Team Value Index
2. Net Efficiency
3. Winning %
4. Adjusted Win %

Team Value Index
This pretty much just accounts for the opponent, the location of the game, and the winner. It’s a results based metric that rewards teams for beating other good teams (reason for the Quad system).

Net Efficiency
This is essentially offensive efficiency minus defensive efficiency. If you look at KenPom, the overall composite number is just net efficiency.

Winning %
Straightforward. Wins divided by # of games played

Adjusted Winning %
Same as winning % above but road games and neutral games are weighted more than home games.
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Looks like they actually dropped winning percentage and adjusted winning percentage. Someone else mentioned scoring margin and that’s no longer in the formula either.
 
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