SEC Standings-Updated- 1-26-24

[TheMookieMonster]

You're all over the place with the point you're trying to make. I never said they would go undefeated, nor that they were the same both on the road and at home. What I said was that the Miss State loss will be one that is looked back on as a missed opportunity to get a road win, largely due to the points you made at the end. If it comes down to losing the SEC by 1 game to them, that State loss should be the first circled.

And I also never mentioned Auburn, because it could still be Kentucky or Alabama as well.

I don’t necessarily agree that the State loss would be the first one circled. There is a lot of basketball left to be played and technically MSU is one of the tougher road games on our schedule. I think we can afford to drop that game and still win the conference if you refrain from losing on the road to A&M and Arky.

Those games make me nervous because they are both tough environments against teams that the metrics say are not as good as you. If we don’t win the SEC, it probably means we dropped another road game other than Alabama or Kentucky, which means it will be against someone worse than MSU. That would be the game you end up circling.

 

[Rememberthelate90s]

You're all over the place with the point you're trying to make. I never said they would go undefeated, nor that they were the same both on the road and at home. What I said was that the Miss State loss will be one that is looked back on as a missed opportunity to get a road win, largely due to the points you made at the end. If it comes down to losing the SEC by 1 game to them, that State loss should be the first circled.

And I also never mentioned Auburn, because it could still be Kentucky or Alabama as well.

Road game. Doesn't matter. Steal when you can road wins We ain't winning it bc auburn is good with an easier schedule. These varied schedules suck. They need to start making burn play tougher schedules.

Ky is a non threat as of now bc we play them twice and they have to go on road to auburn. Not many teams gonna beat them there right now, especially if refs keep letting them get away with murder defensively. Grab, hold, insert is their style of defense.

 

[BallerVolFan]

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Looks like they actually dropped winning percentage and adjusted winning percentage. Someone else mentioned scoring margin and that’s no longer in the formula either.

I think you’re correct. The link I clicked on said Nov. 2023 so I took it as gospel but I remember the talk about them removing those metrics.

 

[orangemadam]

I like our chances of finishing the SEC with only 3 losses. Get a break or two at Rupp and
we finish with 16-2. I think 15-3 will win it.

Auburn may also finish with 3 losses but we win by the tiebreaker.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

I like our chances of finishing the SEC with only 3 losses. Get a break or two at Rupp and
we finish with 16-2. I think 15-3 will win it.

Auburn may also finish with 3 losses but we win by the tiebreaker.

16-2 feels ambitious. I’d love that. But with how tough our February schedule is I still think we’re going 14-4.

 

[Mccage]

Auburn will falter they haven’t played anybody

Have you seen Auburn play?

 

[GoodTimeVol]

Have you seen Auburn play?

Have you seen their schedule?

 

[Mccage]

Have you seen their schedule?

Yes…I’ve also watched em a couple of times…they look pretty good to me.

 

[GoodTimeVol]

Yes…I’ve also watched em a couple of times…they look pretty good to me.

They haven’t beat a single team in the top 25 this year…

 

[BallerVolFan]

They haven’t beat a single team in the top 25 this year…

They’ve only played 1 team in the top 25 and it was the very first game of the season on a neutral court vs Baylor. They really haven’t had many chances to beat anybody because their schedule has been so weak up to this point. They’re good because of their depth, that’s what makes them dangerous. But their downfall will be their lack of control and basketball IQ vs disciplined teams. They have a bunch of live wires on their team that likes to activate street ball mode instead of getting the ball to their best player and playing inside out like they should. If they would have played through Broome more vs Alabama instead of jacking up 30+ three’s and driving to the hole like a chicken with their head cut off, they would’ve won. You can’t play an Alabama team on their home floor and expect to beat them in a track meet.

 

[hUTch2002]

I think you’re correct. The link I clicked on said Nov. 2023 so I took it as gospel but I remember the talk about them removing those metrics.

Every now and then I get something right, just not according to my wife.

I think when NET first came out I did know what all was used in it but it’s been a few years so I just couldn’t remember what all was used in the formula.

 

[BallerVolFan]

Every now and then I get something right, just not according to my wife.

I think when NET first came out I did know what all was used in it but it’s been a few years so I just couldn’t remember what all was used in the formula.

Your wife and my fiancé sound quite similar. But yeah they teamed up with some Google Cloud team or whatever the heck they’re called to recreate the NET in 2020 I believe. I believe the focus shifted more towards the Quad system and the value of a teams schedule. Pretty much comparing what the expected record should be vs what the team’s actual record is. Which is why teams like us that play Purdue, Kansas, and UNC aren’t punished as much for those losses but are for sure resume boosters if we would’ve won. On the other hand, you have Bruce Pearl and Auburn only playing 1 ranked team thus far and they lost.

 

[KTrain]

Yes…I’ve also watched em a couple of times…they look pretty good to me.

I watched them VS Bama and they shot 20% from 3, they live & die there its a BP thing. If their hitting 3s at a 40%+ clip especially at home they are not getting beat but they can shoot themselves out of any road game IMO. Broome will be a problem for us if refs let him push and shove under the goal, we cant handle that in the paint.

 

[hUTch2002]

Your wife and my fiancé sound quite similar. But yeah they teamed up with some Google Cloud team or whatever the heck they’re called to recreate the NET in 2020 I believe. I believe the focus shifted more towards the Quad system and the value of a teams schedule. Pretty much comparing what the expected record should be vs what the team’s actual record is. Which is why teams like us that play Purdue, Kansas, and UNC aren’t punished as much for those losses but are for sure resume boosters if we would’ve won. On the other hand, you have Bruce Pearl and Auburn only playing 1 ranked team thus far and they lost.

It’s interesting. I assumed our schedule was far tougher than Auburn’s the rest of the way in but we actually play the same number of Q1 and Q2 games. Now, not all Q1 games are equal of course. Winning at SC isn’t the same as winning at UK.

 

[whobethis16]

I don’t necessarily agree that the State loss would be the first one circled. There is a lot of basketball left to be played and technically MSU is one of the tougher road games on our schedule. I think we can afford to drop that game and still win the conference if you refrain from losing on the road to A&M and Arky.

Those games make me nervous because they are both tough environments against teams that the metrics say are not as good as you. If we don’t win the SEC, it probably means we dropped another road game other than Alabama or Kentucky, which means it will be against someone worse than MSU. That would be the game you end up circling.

NET Rankings have A&M at 39 and State at 42. While not far, saying A&M is a worse loss is not accurate.

My point is the State game was there for the taking, and they completely no-showed for about 1/3 to 1/2 of the game and couldn't dig themselves out. They perform a consistent 60% of their ability that we've seen at home, they win that by 6-8 points.

 

[Orangeslide]

I updated the SEC standings are page 1 for those interested. Enjoy.

 

[whobethis16]

Road game. Doesn't matter. Steal when you can road wins We ain't winning it bc auburn is good with an easier schedule. These varied schedules suck. They need to start making burn play tougher schedules.

Ky is a non threat as of now bc we play them twice and they have to go on road to auburn. Not many teams gonna beat them there right now, especially if refs keep letting them get away with murder defensively. Grab, hold, insert is their style of defense.

Yeah, and State was a golden opportunity to steal one but they disappeared for so much of that game, and couldn't get themselves out. That's my point.

"Non-threat"? That's assuming Tennessee goes .500 against them, which historically (while much better recently) is difficult. Those games are never a given at either site, so stealing that one at State would have been a big help.

 

[whobethis16]

I don’t necessarily agree that the State loss would be the first one circled. There is a lot of basketball left to be played and technically MSU is one of the tougher road games on our schedule. I think we can afford to drop that game and still win the conference if you refrain from losing on the road to A&M and Arky.

Those games make me nervous because they are both tough environments against teams that the metrics say are not as good as you. If we don’t win the SEC, it probably means we dropped another road game other than Alabama or Kentucky, which means it will be against someone worse than MSU. That would be the game you end up circling.

And winning the SEC is only Ws/Ls. Metrics mean nothing. You can't say that being 5-0 right now would not be better than 4-1, especially given what everyone else has done, and the potential/likelihood of a slip up against a team later that you shouldn't lose to. At some point, teams have to take advantage of opportunity (at State was one, and it was missed) and put themselves in position without having to rely on others faltering.

 

[BACKDOC]

SEC Standings updated, games through 1-26-24. Teams are listed by SEC Record alphabetically, not by head to head record. In addition, road wins, home losses, and upcoming games for the week listed. If you see mistakes, feel free to indicate.

Alabama- 5-1, RW-2, HL-0; LSU, @ Georgia
Auburn- 5-1, RW-2, HL- 0; @ Mississippi State, Vanderbilt
Tennessee-4-1, RW-1, HL-0; @ Vanderbilt, South Carolina
Georgia- 4-2, RW-2, HL-1; @ Florida, Alabama
Kentucky- 4-2, RW-1, HL-0; @ Arkansas, Florida
South Carolina-4-2, RW- 1, HL-1; Missouri, @ Tennessee
Florida- 3-3, RW-1, HL-1; Georgia, @ Kentucky
LSU- 3-3: RW-1, HL-1; @ Alabama, Off
Ole Miss- 3-3, RW-0, HL-0; @ Texas A@M; Mississippi State
Texas A@m- 3-3, RW-1, HL-1; @ Ole Miss, Off
Mississippi State-2-4, RW- 0, HL-1; Auburn, @ Ole Miss
Arkansas-1-5- RW-0, HL-2; Kentucky, @ Missouri
Vanderbilt-0-5- RW-0, HL-2; Tennessee, @ Auburn
Missouri- 0-6- RW-0, HL- 3; @ South Carolina, Arkansas

i think the best 4 teams in the conference are still Bama, Aub, Tenn, @ Kentucky. South Carolina and Georgia are trending up at 4-2. I think we find out more about Georgia this week as they are at Florida and host Bama. The State loss may be trending towards a bad loss by seasons end. They are 2-4 and they host Auburn and go to Ole Miss, they could be 2-6 by the end of next week. Arkansas looks lost, 1-5 with 2 home losses and got blew out of the water at Ole Miss. The middle of the pack teams will be interesting to see who trends up or down, those being Florida, LSU, Ole Miss, and A@M. Should be some good games this weekend and next week. I will try to update standings every Friday till seasons end. Tennessee must take care of business these next two games if they want to be a player for the SEC regular season title. Go Vols!

Auburn has zero quad 1 wins this season.