Seismic shift in the college football landscape

#26
#26
I agree but if someone is saying the SEC underperformed in the playoff, it’s worth mentioning UGA was the only team in the Playoff missing their starting QB, which is the most important position 🤷‍♂️

Ohio State is the only team I have seen that looks significantly better than what the SEC has. Even Notre Dame if it were playing against UGA with Beck would likely have a significantly harder time, especially if they didn’t play dumb. I think UT could have looked better against Notre Dame, etc. than they did against Ohio State if the seeding issue was fixed.
Yeah. If Ohio St is ready to play, i don't see them not winning it all. But they could also play like they did against Michigan.
 
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Two of the sec playoff teams went in without their most valuable offensive player, Sampson and Beck. I doubt we win even with Sampson, but UGA absolutely wins with beck. ND had less than 250 yrds offense.
 
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Two of the sec playoff teams went in without their most valuable offensive player, Sampson and Beck. I doubt we win even with Sampson, but UGA absolutely wins with beck. ND had less than 250 yrds offense.
Plus UGa didn't have their punter. I bet he would have done a bettor job selling those running into the kicker penalties as roughing the kicker.
 
#32
#32
A notable shift that i see , is Sankey has carried Saban/ Bama's water for years , SEC refs have been his henchmen and the SEC network is the Bama propaganda machine.... All of that is shifting towards Texas ! Merely my opinion .
 
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I am watching the playoffs and, like everyone else, watching the SEC drop like flies. Texas, who wasn't even in the SEC this time last year, is our only saving grace. We've seen wilder things this season. Vandy beating Bama. Ark beating us. etc. The playoff is not being dominated by the SEC as we would have imagined at the beginning of the season. We didn't even dominate the number of teams from one conference in the playoff. What's up with that?
I believe that we are seeing a permanent shift in the football landscape. One where the SEC isn't head and shoulders above the rest. More than 50% of the National Champions from the last 20 years are from the SEC. Our reputation was well earned.
The NIL era is going to level the playing field. Not every backwater team will have success, but the days of the biggest powerhouse teams dominating the conversation are on the wain. The transfer portal is going to keep teams from hoarding talent. If you're a starter for an unknown team, you can get recognized by bigger schools and transfer in. If you're a top recruit that finds yourself buried in a depth chart, you can find a slightly less talented team and become a starter, turning them into contenders. If you're a top player that is a starter, you can go where the money takes you. The SEC was where you wanted to go to play if you wanted the best shot at a championship. Now championships take a backseat to immediate money. In the Saban era, 5* players would ride the bench because they statistically stood a certainty to win a ring while they were there. Bear Bryant would recruit players he didn't even want to keep them from playing on other teams. Now players won't wait. They want playing time.......now. How can you ask for more NIL money if you aren't on the field?
The reality is that teams from regions where they don't have competition for NIL donors is going to thrive. Teams in economically strapped areas will not likely be competitive. states with deep pockets like Texas, Florida, California, Michigan, etc will always be good. Places like Arkansas, Nebraska, the Carolinas etc will always be squeezed for cash. Even take a state like Alabama and ask, " how does a smaller less affluent state like that support 2 major programs with enough NIL money to be contenders?" I don't think they can in the long run. Look how quickly Bama fell off already. Over the next 4-5 years teams will get by on depth of fan base and the power of their brand name. But as we go a few more years, and the teams lose their luster, the money machine will slow down. All those bandwagon Bama fans that sprung up all over the country aren't donors.

Ultimately, over the next 5 years, we are going to see parity in college football. We will go from 10-15 teams being legit contenders every year, to something more akin to the wild, wild west. Teams will need to be just good enough to get into the playoff. Then it's a crap shoot. The era of teams like Bama/Georgia/Clemson creating dynasties are over.
TLDR
 
#34
#34
If UGA doesn't lose Beck, they beat ND by 10. And everyone here with a football IQ knows it. No great shift. YET.
Can't buy that. GA had the same problem TN had at Ohio State. No WR open and OL could not hold long enough so a sack happened. Saw GA QB make some very nice throws. I think problem was GA OL.
 
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#35
Who really benefits if fans chant SEC SEC or B1G B1G or ACC ACC not Tennessee as a program unless they win that will draws recruits.
ESPN, ABC & CBS Sports guy says hey we can really get our viewership up if we do promos to pit conference vs conference. These dummies will buy it their team goes down but the dummy roots for a conference foe because of a weird conference chest pumping alliance. Dummy not realizing the more his conference foes win the better they look to the recruits but who cares that's next year they love chanting SEC SEC etc...and we get these dummies to tune in to terrible Bowl matchups thus we rake in advertising dollars.
 
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#36
As a Vols fan i could care less about Georgia. I do not like ND either. But seeing the Dogs get beat was fun. With what i have seen from Ohio St, Texas better buckle up. I do not think Texas will beat Ohio St. Maybe next year SEC.
Tbh I think Texas has the horses to run with OSU. They got some dudes in that secondary. Doesn't mean they will stop OSU but I think they'll probably be the best secondary OSU faces. I can't wait to see the playcallers go at it in this one
 
#37
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Can't buy that. GA had the same problem TN had at Ohio State. No WR open and OL could not hold long enough so a sack happened. Saw GA QB make some very nice throws. I think problem was GA OL.
The QB helps the OL sometimes. I doubt their backup was as good at reading defenses presnap

Tbh I think Texas has the horses to run with OSU. They got some dudes in that secondary. Doesn't mean they will stop OSU but I think they'll probably be the best secondary OSU faces. I can't wait to see the playcallers go at it in this one
I agree they have the horses, but I was very unimpressed with Texas’ playcalling in their last game
 
#38
#38
This narrative is way overblown.

Bowl games:
- Big10: 8-5
- SEC: 8-6

There is more parity in CFB and this is arguably a down year for powerhouses in SEC but the conference is still neck and neck with Big10 and likely deeper from top to bottom.

IMO the disparity this year is twofold:
- the CFP seeding was horrendous. If teams were seeded accurately and Big10 wasn’t given defacto home games then the playoff would have looked a lot different. Even still, Texas is in the final 4. Most SEC fans believe Texas isn’t even the 2nd best team in the conference yet they still made it to top 4. UGA likely was the best team and just had a catastrophic loss at QB the week before.

-OSU is by far the most “talented” team this year. 90% blue chip. If they play to potential, they should win, but their coaching and players often drop the ball. Everyone non-SEC is hanging onto OSU coattails and saying SEC is bad this year. No OSU is really good and everyone else is battling for 2nd.

This nails it. Two home games for the Big 10, and Penn State with a free ride into the semis playing the two worst teams in the bracket.

The north-based national media is loving the idea of ripping the SEC and talking about the Big 10 being equal, but the reality is that the Big 10 is Ohio State, a couple of programs that can beat up on weak schedules, and a whole lot of mediocrity. Bowl games mean diddly-squat, with opt-outs and lack of motivation.

The 12-team playoff 'fix' is simple and doesn't need to be over thought - seed the teams 1-12 as they are ranked, continuing to give auto bids to conference champs, but not byes. The byes go to the top 4 seeds.

If this had been done this year, we would have had a home game against SMU, then gone on to play Georgia. Penn State would have gotten a bye at #4 (what a joke), but would have had Notre Dame in the second round. The entire event would have been better and built toward the second weekend instead of having virtually all blowouts and teams like Boise and ASU getting byes.

Easy solution, but somehow the idiots that run the CFP will find a way to f***k it up.
 
#39
#39
If they just did away with the automatic byes to conference champions we would see a lot better playoff imo. I’m cool with giving the top 5 conference champions automatic bids any format that allows teams to vault several spots in front of them is a joke. Just rank them 1-12 and match them up accordingly. Whenever the number 1 team in the country is playing number 6, while number 4 gets to play 9 in the second round. That’s a big problem. Oregon should have been playing the winner of Indiana/Boise State but gets stuck playing the winner of Ohio State/Tennessee. And Georgia should have been playing the winner of Tennessee/SMU instead of the number 5 team in the country. You get punished for being the number 1 and number 2 team and it shouldn’t be that way.
Georgia and Oregon would have been the top 2 seeds in any format, and both lost by double digits.
 
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#42
I am watching the playoffs and, like everyone else, watching the SEC drop like flies. Texas, who wasn't even in the SEC this time last year, is our only saving grace. We've seen wilder things this season. Vandy beating Bama. Ark beating us. etc. The playoff is not being dominated by the SEC as we would have imagined at the beginning of the season. We didn't even dominate the number of teams from one conference in the playoff. What's up with that?
I believe that we are seeing a permanent shift in the football landscape. One where the SEC isn't head and shoulders above the rest. More than 50% of the National Champions from the last 20 years are from the SEC. Our reputation was well earned.
The NIL era is going to level the playing field. Not every backwater team will have success, but the days of the biggest powerhouse teams dominating the conversation are on the wain. The transfer portal is going to keep teams from hoarding talent. If you're a starter for an unknown team, you can get recognized by bigger schools and transfer in. If you're a top recruit that finds yourself buried in a depth chart, you can find a slightly less talented team and become a starter, turning them into contenders. If you're a top player that is a starter, you can go where the money takes you. The SEC was where you wanted to go to play if you wanted the best shot at a championship. Now championships take a backseat to immediate money. In the Saban era, 5* players would ride the bench because they statistically stood a certainty to win a ring while they were there. Bear Bryant would recruit players he didn't even want to keep them from playing on other teams. Now players won't wait. They want playing time.......now. How can you ask for more NIL money if you aren't on the field?
The reality is that teams from regions where they don't have competition for NIL donors is going to thrive. Teams in economically strapped areas will not likely be competitive. states with deep pockets like Texas, Florida, California, Michigan, etc will always be good. Places like Arkansas, Nebraska, the Carolinas etc will always be squeezed for cash. Even take a state like Alabama and ask, " how does a smaller less affluent state like that support 2 major programs with enough NIL money to be contenders?" I don't think they can in the long run. Look how quickly Bama fell off already. Over the next 4-5 years teams will get by on depth of fan base and the power of their brand name. But as we go a few more years, and the teams lose their luster, the money machine will slow down. All those bandwagon Bama fans that sprung up all over the country aren't donors.

Ultimately, over the next 5 years, we are going to see parity in college football. We will go from 10-15 teams being legit contenders every year, to something more akin to the wild, wild west. Teams will need to be just good enough to get into the playoff. Then it's a crap shoot. The era of teams like Bama/Georgia/Clemson creating dynasties are over.


"is our only saving grace"..... maybe YOUR saving grace, but I hope they get their ass run out of the stadium vs. OSU.
 
#45
#45
Exactly. People will be sick of their crap in a few years. They get catered to and destroy every conference they’re in. Texas is a cancer.

They got the softest schedule, and the only really proven hard game was at home. The networks have been pulling for Texas to win something for decades. Screw them!
 
#46
#46
The SEC as a whole is still head and shoulders above the rest of the conferences as a whole
All the conferences except the B1G

Truth be told, SEC was never head and shoulders above the B!G except for certain programs at certain times (Bama, UGA).

I'd say the SEC is better than the B1G more years than not, but there are many teams in that conference that could win a lot in the SEC.

Programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, USC, and Penn State would probably win at least 8-9 games yearly, and often in position to win more in the SEC...pretty much as they do in the B1G.

This year the B1G is clearly better than the SEC, which isn't very good this year.
 
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#47
I am watching the playoffs and, like everyone else, watching the SEC drop like flies. Texas, who wasn't even in the SEC this time last year, is our only saving grace. We've seen wilder things this season. Vandy beating Bama. Ark beating us. etc. The playoff is not being dominated by the SEC as we would have imagined at the beginning of the season. We didn't even dominate the number of teams from one conference in the playoff. What's up with that?
I believe that we are seeing a permanent shift in the football landscape. One where the SEC isn't head and shoulders above the rest. More than 50% of the National Champions from the last 20 years are from the SEC. Our reputation was well earned.
The NIL era is going to level the playing field. Not every backwater team will have success, but the days of the biggest powerhouse teams dominating the conversation are on the wain. The transfer portal is going to keep teams from hoarding talent. If you're a starter for an unknown team, you can get recognized by bigger schools and transfer in. If you're a top recruit that finds yourself buried in a depth chart, you can find a slightly less talented team and become a starter, turning them into contenders. If you're a top player that is a starter, you can go where the money takes you. The SEC was where you wanted to go to play if you wanted the best shot at a championship. Now championships take a backseat to immediate money. In the Saban era, 5* players would ride the bench because they statistically stood a certainty to win a ring while they were there. Bear Bryant would recruit players he didn't even want to keep them from playing on other teams. Now players won't wait. They want playing time.......now. How can you ask for more NIL money if you aren't on the field?
The reality is that teams from regions where they don't have competition for NIL donors is going to thrive. Teams in economically strapped areas will not likely be competitive. states with deep pockets like Texas, Florida, California, Michigan, etc will always be good. Places like Arkansas, Nebraska, the Carolinas etc will always be squeezed for cash. Even take a state like Alabama and ask, " how does a smaller less affluent state like that support 2 major programs with enough NIL money to be contenders?" I don't think they can in the long run. Look how quickly Bama fell off already. Over the next 4-5 years teams will get by on depth of fan base and the power of their brand name. But as we go a few more years, and the teams lose their luster, the money machine will slow down. All those bandwagon Bama fans that sprung up all over the country aren't donors.

Ultimately, over the next 5 years, we are going to see parity in college football. We will go from 10-15 teams being legit contenders every year, to something more akin to the wild, wild west. Teams will need to be just good enough to get into the playoff. Then it's a crap shoot. The era of teams like Bama/Georgia/Clemson creating dynasties are over.

That's what we called the "modern era" in 2006, saying those NE, OU, USC dynasties of old will never happen again. Then Nick, Dabo, Kirby ... smart coaches will find a way to take current and future climates and create dynasties. They always do. Hopefully it's in Knoxville.
 
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All the conferences except the B1G

Truth be told, SEC was never head and shoulders above the B!G except for certain programs at certain times (Bama, UGA).

I'd say the SEC is better than the B1G more years than not, but there are many teams in that conference that could win a lot in the SEC.

Programs like Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, USC, and Penn State would probably win at least 8-9 games yearly, and often in position to win more in the SEC...pretty much as they do in the B1G.

This year the B1G is clearly better than the SEC, which isn't very good this year.
USC wouldn’t win crap this year, Michigan’s 1940’s offense also wouldn’t have done much. Penn state and Oregon I think are very good teams; Oregon though doesn’t have the defense to make the run they did this year in the SEC. Ohio state is just another level but they played like crap several games this year.
 
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#50
This nails it. Two home games for the Big 10, and Penn State with a free ride into the semis playing the two worst teams in the bracket.

The north-based national media is loving the idea of ripping the SEC and talking about the Big 10 being equal, but the reality is that the Big 10 is Ohio State, a couple of programs that can beat up on weak schedules, and a whole lot of mediocrity. Bowl games mean diddly-squat, with opt-outs and lack of motivation.

The 12-team playoff 'fix' is simple and doesn't need to be over thought - seed the teams 1-12 as they are ranked, continuing to give auto bids to conference champs, but not byes. The byes go to the top 4 seeds.

If this had been done this year, we would have had a home game against SMU, then gone on to play Georgia. Penn State would have gotten a bye at #4 (what a joke), but would have had Notre Dame in the second round. The entire event would have been better and built toward the second weekend instead of having virtually all blowouts and teams like Boise and ASU getting byes.

Easy solution, but somehow the idiots that run the CFP will find a way to f***k it up.
I have to be honest. It has kind of pissed me off the way the media has basically thrown a parade . “See, we told you guys they were overrated.” It’s one thing if the league is consistently, but it’s not. The Danny Kanell’s, Nicole Auerbach’s etc are creating this false narrative bc they are driving an agenda. Kanell isn’t a journalist, he’s a paid opinion sharer, but Auerbach is a Michigan grad who is the lead analyst for NBC, amazing how journalism is very far from just that.
 
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