Self-Driving Uber Kills Pedestrian

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Coug said:
The news showed that she was on a bicycle when she got hit.
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She was pushing a bicycle. And apparently, the victim was at fault from what I've read.


The self-driving Uber still has a ways to go to catch up to the Uber drivers' body count.
 
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As a pedestrian and/or a cyclist, I know better than to expect any vehicle to stop for me whether the law is on my side or not. Firstly, drivers are desensitized by socmed trolling and political hate speech. Respect for one's fellow man is at a low, and distracted drivers in the insular environment of their vehicles detach from accountability, believing it OK to strike, injure, or kill a pedestrian or cyclist without consequence (drive on, lawyer up if your caught, and blame the victim). Second, an automaton cannot discern a human from any other object. Impact avoidance is never about the well being of the other thing, only preservation of the vehicle itself.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Tempe police chief is saying it was the deceased's fault.

Police chief: Uber self-driving car “likely” not at fault in fatal crash | Ars Technica
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Interesting note that it said it was traveling 38 in a 35, but google maps show a picture from last year saying the limit is 45. The 35 could be a misstatement, but if not it could point to issues with these forms of technology. More than once google has given me directions that include an illegal right turn or a road that’s closed for construction. I submit a suggestion and they confirm it a day or two later, but the system is reliant on local people for real time updates to things like that.
 
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I am not an extremely technologically inclined person, and am one of these weird Millennials (I guess) that enjoys driving a car, particularly on road trips.

But I am convinced that in the not too distant future people will look back on the era that we live in and say "That was insane that people got killed driving to work or driving to the store in car wrecks. I can't believe people accepted that as an unfortunate possibility in life." They'll look back on our time just like we look back at 150 years ago and are amazed that people died from a broken arm (not routinely, but it was certainly more of a possibility then than it is today).

In time, they'll get the technology figured out, it'll be a lot safer than humans driving cars, and it'll be accepted by the market because younger generations aren't as infatuated with their cars as older ones are. In fact, many of them don't even like driving and will wait until they are 19-20 years old to get a drivers' license. "Car culture" is dying.
 
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05_never_again said:
I am not an extremely technologically inclined person, and am one of these weird Millennials (I guess) that enjoys driving a car, particularly on road trips.

But I am convinced that in the not too distant future people will look back on the era that we live in and say "That was insane that people got killed driving to work or driving to the store in car wrecks. I can't believe people accepted that as an unfortunate possibility in life." They'll look back on our time just like we look back at 150 years ago and are amazed that people died from a broken arm (not routinely, but it was certainly more of a possibility then than it is today).

In time, they'll get the technology figured out, it'll be a lot safer than humans driving cars, and it'll be accepted by the market because younger generations aren't as infatuated with their cars as older ones are. In fact, many of them don't even like driving and will wait until they are 19-20 years old to get a drivers' license. "Car culture" is dying.
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Oregon Trail will be replaced with I-95 Corridor. Rush Hour.

I love driving, of course I’m almost 35.
 
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#33
Wait till one of those self driving 18 wheelers turn loose on their own and do some serious carnage.
 
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#34
This would never happen with KITT

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#38
interesting case. sucks for the victim but nothing says that a normal driver would have avoided the accident. It also makes me wonder if the car is doing any type of comparison. ie. Was there another car on the road and it had to choose to hit one or the other?
 
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Phoenix residents have a hard time driving on the right side of the freeway, even with this accident self driving cars are down very low on the list of things to worry about on the road
 
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LouderVol said:
interesting case. sucks for the victim but nothing says that a normal driver would have avoided the accident. It also makes me wonder if the car is doing any type of comparison. ie. Was there another car on the road and it had to choose to hit one or the other?
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Like, is it programmed to know who’s worth how many points?

(had to get it back to DR2k)
 
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthyTh_fopo[/youtube]

Oh man! No wonder the car hit the woman. She was practically wearing a black ninja suit, walking down the middle of the road nowhere near a crosswalk.
 
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Coug said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthyTh_fopo[/youtube]

Oh man! No wonder the car hit the woman. She was practically wearing a black ninja suit, walking down the middle of the road nowhere near a crosswalk.
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She got what she asked for.
 
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Even though it didn't work in this instance, pedestrians in those type of situations would be expected to have a better chance of survival with autonomous cars. The gadgets can see way better at night than people can. Guess they still gotta figure out why it failed this time. Either way, had there been a human driver only, they wouldn't have been at fault here. It's very, very sad though.
 
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Coug said:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthyTh_fopo[/youtube]

Oh man! No wonder the car hit the woman. She was practically wearing a black ninja suit, walking down the middle of the road nowhere near a crosswalk.
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The technical term for that costume is The Invisible Pedestrian.

Not for blind kids!
 
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yeah, I wouldn't have been able to stop in time, probably wouldn't have even fully registered in time to even start applying the brakes
 
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pismonque said:
Even though it didn't work in this instance, pedestrians in those type of situations would be expected to have a better chance of survival with autonomous cars. The gadgets can see way better at night than people can. Guess they still gotta figure out why it failed this time. Either way, had there been a human driver only, they wouldn't have been at fault here. It's very, very sad though.
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No kidding. The computer can not only see better, but stop quicker (faster reaction time).
 
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n_huffhines said:
Someday, you'll get yours. Probably already did, and that's why you're such an ugly, angry, sad little person?
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I don’t walk out in front of moving cars. Especially at night.

I am beautiful, happy, and righteous. Now, get me that damn beer you loser!
 
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