Separating the pretenders from the real deal.

[Hardwood_fanatic]

I hope youre right about Bama v Arkansas. I want the piggies beat, broken, and disheartened when we get em in Dallas.

Agreed. Petrino, for all his downfalls (which are many) is a great offensive mind. However, everyone seen what Bama did to UGA last year, with a stellar offense and two 1st rounders. I don't see the complete blowout happening, but I think Bama dominates in convincing fashion.

 

[TXA&M07]

Ole Miss'es loss will look worse when SCAR remembers that they are SCAR and starts playing like it.

 

[TrueOrange]

i wouldnt' be surprised at all to see a 1 loss team get back. i dont' see it being sc though. their qb play is too poor. barkley wont be anywhere near 100% for cal.

maybe and not calling in.

hasn't USC Cal been a pretty low scoring, the better defense usually wins it (or at least gives the little edge needed) game the last few years though?

 

[droski]

Agreed. Petrino, for all his downfalls (which are many) is a great offensive mind. However, everyone seen what Bama did to UGA last year, with a stellar offense and two 1st rounders. I don't see the complete blowout happening, but I think Bama dominates in convincing fashion.

saban >>>>>> petrino

If you are basing your opinion on UF on how they played UT then I think you might be shortchanging your boys a bit. UT's defense is one of the best in the country.

i don't think UT is all that great either. now UF schedule is pretty darn easy. no question. i'm not saying they aren't a top-5 team or something, just that they arent' good enough for any florida fan to be 99% confident of an undefeated season.

 

[buckeyevol23]

i wasn't saying they were that good though, i'm just saying what would happen

if they end up 12-1, winning SEC championship....what are the odds you think that they'd get left out?

It's going to be pretty unlikely that there's going to be two or three undefeated teams sitting up top

Yeah I know what you meant, if they do run the table, there's no way they don't make it to the NC. I agree that there may be only 1, possibly 2 undefeated teams by the end of the regular season.

 

[droski]

maybe and not calling in.

hasn't USC Cal been a pretty low scoring, the better defense usually wins it (or at least gives the little edge needed) game the last few years though?

it has been very low scoring. but cal's offense is far superior to sc's offense. cal's defense wont have any problem stopping barkley. i think it's another close low scoring game, but riley is so much better than barkley at this point i think it gives cal the ultimate advantage. and cal has a very good home record under tedford. 4 losses in 4 years at home.

 

[TXA&M07]

Where do yall play SC droski?

 

[droski]

Where do yall play SC droski?

at cal. if this was a road game i wouldnt' be nearly as confident.

 

[TrueOrange]

Ole Miss'es loss will look worse when SCAR remembers that they are SCAR and starts playing like it.

I seem to recall a 2007 LSU team losing to a Kentucky that turned back into normal kentucky at years end too...and an 8 win arkansas team

and a 2003 So Cal team that lost to an unranked Cal team and ended pretty well

my point being not that this happens every day, but the manner of the polls is at the end of the year, if you're record's good and you hadnt lost in the last 2 or 3 (or sometimes 4) weeks, you're going to end up ranked pretty high...they dont care anymore who you lost to at whatever point early

and there are probably dozens more teams that lost one bad game against a lesser opponent early but still ranked very high at the season's end

 

[TXA&M07]

Home field advantage has lost some of its luster with me, however I still am a firm believer that it provides a slight edge. You never want to play in Lubbock any time of day, Death Valley at night, or Kyle Field at night.

 

[TXA&M07]

I seem to recall a 2007 LSU team losing to a Kentucky that turned back into normal kentucky at years end too...and an 8 win arkansas team

and a 2003 So Cal team that lost to an unranked Cal team and ended pretty well

my point being not that this happens every day, but the manner of the polls is at the end of the year, if you're record's good and you hadnt lost in the last 2 or 3 (or sometimes 4) weeks, you're going to end up ranked pretty high...they dont care anymore who you lost to at whatever point early

and there are probably dozens more teams that lost one bad game against a lesser opponent early but still ranked very high at the season's end

Not being argumentative, but Ole Miss wont get the same hype as an SC, or LSU. They frankly have not been relevant enough recently to earn the trust of the voters.

 

[TrueOrange]

Yeah I know what you meant, if they do run the table, there's no way they don't make it to the NC. I agree that there may be only 1, possibly 2 undefeated teams by the end of the regular season.

i honestly dont think you even see more than one really (at best). We all got spoiled by 98 and that 02, 04, 05 area.

it's pretty rare to see two undefeated teams in a college football season, especially a scenario where one of said teams isnt one of the more mid-major teams and not really going to factor in....it's just really difficult to do in this sport

 

[TXA&M07]

The Rebs got themselves a Texas Qb, beat a Big12 team that had a scarce defense in a big bowl game thus begining their rise. Last night changed a lot.

 

[TrueOrange]

Not being argumentative, but Ole Miss wont get the same hype as an SC, or LSU. They frankly have not been relevant enough recently to earn the trust of the voters.

i dont think they have at this point either.

was just saying though that if this team ends up 12-1 and conference champions, the polls arent going to care if a team they lost to in week 3 in the season won 8 games, 6 games, or cancelled their season b/c their players ate all their shoes....

I do have issues with the way the polls work

 

[TrueOrange]

it has been very low scoring. but cal's offense is far superior to sc's offense. cal's defense wont have any problem stopping barkley. i think it's another close low scoring game, but riley is so much better than barkley at this point i think it gives cal the ultimate advantage. and cal has a very good home record under tedford. 4 losses in 4 years at home.

true cal's O is better than USC's - especially at QB play -, but how does Cal O matchup to USC D?
if their D is good enough to make it just a standstill game then it could be pretty much just 50-50, with the win going to whoever makes a big pass or run letting mistake

i'm not sure anyone should have been expecting it to be a fireworks show after the last few years though

 

[TXA&M07]

"players ate all their shoes" - that was pretty good.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

yeah, i mean people do keep forgetting that these teams are losing really early in the season...and with there not being any sort of strength of schedule thing, the polls tend to care more that a team didnt lose in the last week or two rather than who they lost too alot of times.

If Ole miss, USC, OU, Ohio State or whoever wins out from here on, they're very much right back in it

Is no one giving consideration to Penn State? They don't have that many tough games, so I could see them going undefeated... as much as I'd hate to see a Penn St. vs TX nat'l championship game.

 

[buckeyevol23]

i honestly dont think you even see more than one really (at best). We all got spoiled by 98 and that 02, 04, 05 area.

it's pretty rare to see two undefeated teams in a college football season, especially a scenario where one of said teams isnt one of the more mid-major teams and not really going to factor in....it's just really difficult to do in this sport

There were undefeated teams in 99 and 01 as well.

But yeah I see possibly UF or Bama going undefeated since they're clearly the top two teams in an SEC that seems down this year. Texas hasn't looked great so far but it's still early. Cal has a good shot if they beat Oregon tomorrow and USC next week. Penn State will probably drop one to OSU or Michigan.

 

[TXA&M07]

I can see SCAR losing 5 of the last 8 games. One of those losses includes Clemson who, personally I think would get BOAT RACED by Ole Miss. The computer wont care, youre right about that, but the humans who vote will.

If Ole Miss finishes 12-1 that'll be great. They'll still have a front row seat to a CUSA or WAC team that went perfect.

 

[TrueOrange]

Is no one giving consideration to Penn State? They don't have that many tough games, so I could see them going undefeated... as much as I'd hate to see a Penn St. vs TX nat'l championship game.

had forgotten about them, but was just mainly pointing out that all the big one loss teams are still in it at this point

 

[buckeyevol23]

Is no one giving consideration to Penn State? They don't have that many tough games, so I could see them going undefeated... as much as I'd hate to see a Penn St. vs TX nat'l championship game.

I would hate to see them make it since their OOC schedule is the biggest joke in the country. Though its at PSU, I think OSU beats them if Tressel turns Pryor loose and he stops trying to be a pocket passer. OSU's D will hold their offense in check. They have to go to Michigan as well.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

There were undefeated teams in 99 and 01 as well.

But yeah I see possibly UF or Bama going undefeated since they're clearly the top two teams in an SEC that seems down this year. Texas hasn't looked great so far but it's still early. Cal has a good shot if they beat Oregon tomorrow and USC next week. Penn State will probably drop one to OSU or Michigan.[/QUOTE]

Penn State plays at Michigan but has OSU at home. I think they will be favored to win both games... but I hope they don't (unless TX also loses a game). Then the BCS would be a major mess this year with so many 1 loss teams.

 

[Mr. Two Bits]

saban >>>>>> petrino



i don't think UT is all that great either. now UF schedule is pretty darn easy. no question. i'm not saying they aren't a top-5 team or something, just that they arent' good enough for any florida fan to be 99% confident of an undefeated season.

I'm 99% until the SEC championship game. More like 50% beyond that.

 

[IBlvNTmWrk]

I'm 99% until the SEC championship game. More like 50% beyond that.

Would I be correct in assuming you'd prefer to face any other team than Bama in the SECCG?

 

[buckeyevol23]

I'm 99% until the SEC championship game. More like 50% beyond that.

Yeah, LSU's your biggest challenge til then and I don't think they're that good. Plus, your offense will get to go against Chavis again.