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#26
#26
FLVOL_79 said:
Dont be too hard on Jawja fans. They've waited 40 years to be relevant again. They can enjoy their fleeting moment.
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They have been relevant much more than us since 2005. And a much more consistent winning program only two losing seasons in 26 years.
 
#27
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BAMA-DAWG said:
No. There appears to be a problem in Tuscaloosa. I don't know what it is, but it was there last year as well. Bama's record isn't a result of a more difficult schedule than UGA's. They're just not playing to the standard they did 5-6 years ago.
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There is definite slippage. Really Bama hasn’t been the same since they lost Kirby and Pruitt their defenses have gotten soft.
 
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volbound1700 said:
They don't beat Tennessee in Neyland if the atmosphere is like it was against Alabama. No one beats Tennessee that night. It doesn't mean we are the best team, it just means the stars aligned for us that evening.
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Georgia would’ve still won at Neyland their defense is much better than Bama. Kirby has largely shut down Heupel’s offense two straight seasons now allowing only 30 combined points to UT.
 
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Hopeful Vol said:
Georgia would’ve still won at Neyland their defense is much better than Bama. Kirby has largely shut down Heupel’s offense two straight seasons now allowing only 30 combined points to UT.
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Georgia troll
 
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SLODAWG said:
Haven't used the word dynasty. But, Georgia is coming off a national title amd is favored to win it again. Whether they do or not, the Dawgs aren't disappearing anytime soon.
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Reality is y’all are a play away from having 2 in 5 years and going for 3 in 6. Now I don’t see a Saban-like dynasty because the rules have changed now with NIL and the portal but y’all are going to be good for a good while now.
 
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False starts were killers but I still think Ga is better than Bama this year.

Also Young > Stetson
 
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volbound1700 said:
Someone with more than 8 wins at least. Neither of these teams is in the top 20.

I am talking about a top 15 team on the road.
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You started this thread by talking about Alabama having a tougher schedule and saying they "had to play challenging road matchups in Austin, Neyland, Baton Rouge, and Oxford." Only 1 of those was a team better than 8 wins (us) and the other 3 had the same 8-4 record that MSU and SC did. And yes SC is a top 20 team.

It's starting to look like you're trying to cherry pick items and use some mental gymnastics to create a scenario where you can act like Georgia isn't that great.
 
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This year doesn't matter. Georgia is the better team. They have enough of a talent differential to overcome Kirby's mostly weak game day coaching.

Next season that (probably) will not be the case. Georgia is set up pretty well for the short term, whether they can sustain it-I have my doubts.
 
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Georgia is a definitely better than Bama, but no LSU and us in Tuscaloosa, yeah. I think Bama goes 12 and 0 before losing to the Dawgs in Atlanta.

I still think UGA goes 12 and 0. I feel confident they beat LSU for sure. The game with us, if it's in Neyland and we can get a TD on that early turnover instead of a FG...who knows. Too many ifs. I still think they win, but it's a closer game.
 
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stolitonic said:
This year doesn't matter. Georgia is the better team. They have enough of a talent differential to overcome Kirby's mostly weak game day coaching.

Next season that (probably) will not be the case. Georgia is set up pretty well for the short term, whether they can sustain it-I have my doubts.
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They will probaly be even better next year unfortunately.
 
#39
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Hopeful Vol said:
They will probaly be even better next year unfortunately.
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I wouldn't count your chickens before they're hatched.

Georgia could have a great year. Georgia could also implode like A&M did this year.

Me personally? I think Georgia blows it during the playoffs this year. Ohio State will take them down and that hurts me to say as if there is anyone I hate worse than Ga, it is the Suckeyes


Next year, I could easily. see Kirby making a few boneheaded moves and stumbling to a 10-2 or 9-3 type season
 
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stolitonic said:
I wouldn't count your chickens before they're hatched.

Georgia could have a great year. Georgia could also implode like A&M did this year.

Me personally? I think Georgia blows it during the playoffs this year. Ohio State will take them down and that hurts me to say as if there is anyone I hate worse than Ga, it is the Suckeyes


Next year, I could easily. see Kirby making a few boneheaded moves and stumbling to a 10-2 or 9-3 type season
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I mean for them 9-3 might be an implode but that wouldn't come close to a TAMU like implosion. Plus given his track record at Georgia, that level of implosion is highly unlikely.
 
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stolitonic said:
I wouldn't count your chickens before they're hatched.

Georgia could have a great year. Georgia could also implode like A&M did this year.

Me personally? I think Georgia blows it during the playoffs this year. Ohio State will take them down and that hurts me to say as if there is anyone I hate worse than Ga, it is the Suckeyes

Next year, I could easily. see Kirby making a few boneheaded moves and stumbling to a 10-2 or 9-3 type season
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9-3 would be an implosion for UGA in 2023.

A&M’s meltdown came as a result of a bunch of highly rated young kids dictating the culture, with disastrous results.

UF went through that in 2010 when Meyer got the #1 class and started banging coe…err…having heart issues.
 
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volfan_28 said:
Yes, Absolutely. Bama would have beaten us at home and we would have beaten UGA at home. I’ll say it til I’m blue in the face. False starts changed both games
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This. Neyland and after Ainge poking the bear Sanford showed out. That is what home field advantage does if hostile gets the offenses behind the sticks.
 
#43
#43
FLVOL_79 said:
Dont be too hard on Jawja fans. They've waited 40 years to be relevant again. They can enjoy their fleeting moment.
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And we have only waited 24 years to be competing on National level again. We had a couple good seasons mixed in between. Think about how mediocre we were much of the 70s and 80s. Then late 80s throughout the 90’s we exploded onto the National stage. College football has always been cyclical. I think we will see more dynasties in the future as the money programs will remain in the hallowed halls of the few. Clemson rose to prominence again but how long will they be a Top 5 Program? They were a different team without Trevor. It doesn’t matter what you could have accomplished it’s all about what you actually did. Vince Dooley once said,“Potential means you ain’t done a dam& thing yet!”
 
#44
#44
Well none of this speculative philosophy matters since we didn’t play USCe in Neyland. We might have lost in KnoxVegas as bad as we played and as well as Rattler played. What matters is we went 10-2 when an 8-4 season was expected to be a great year. Our team superseded all expectations this. Be happy. It was fun. It was exciting. It’s not over yet, but I promise you one thing. Teams will figure out how to stop our offense faster than we build a great defense. If this offense was sustainable, then Hal Mummey, Mike Leach, Gus Malzahn and others would be HOF coaches, not a dub tier programs. We have to build a defense and run the dang ball with a big offensive line.
 
#46
#46
volbound1700 said:
I challenged a Georgia fan on this one that was being cocky.

Does Alabama go 12-0 playing Georgia's schedule? Georgia had no true road game and was able to get favorable situations for its biggest matchups (Oregon in opener with first year QB and Coach in Georgia and Tennessee in their Superbowl in Athens).

Alabama had to play challenging road matchups in Austin, Neyland, Baton Rouge, and Oxford.

Does Georgia go unbeaten if you flip the script and have Georgia play Alabama's schedule? Does Alabama go 12-0 against Georgia's schedule? (Keep in mind Tennessee goes to Tuscaloosa if Alabama has Georgia's schedule).
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The real question is would Tennessee have won 7 games without Hooker?
 
#47
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VolsSportsFan said:
You started this thread by talking about Alabama having a tougher schedule and saying they "had to play challenging road matchups in Austin, Neyland, Baton Rouge, and Oxford." Only 1 of those was a team better than 8 wins (us) and the other 3 had the same 8-4 record that MSU and SC did. And yes SC is a top 20 team.

It's starting to look like you're trying to cherry pick items and use some mental gymnastics to create a scenario where you can act like Georgia isn't that great.
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LSU was 9-4, Tennessee is 10-2. Georgia hasn't played in those environments. Their toughest road game was at 8-4 Miss State which is a stadium of 50-60k.

Compare Miss State or Columbia to Austin, Neyland, or Baton Rouge. Which environments are tougher?

Do you even try?
 
#48
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volbound1700 said:
LSU was 9-4, Tennessee is 10-2. Georgia hasn't played in those environments. Their toughest road game was at 8-4 Miss State which is a stadium of 50-60k.

Compare Miss State or Columbia to Austin, Neyland, or Baton Rouge. Which environments are tougher?

Do you even try?
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Lol like I said, cherry picking. You originally had Ole Miss listed as a "tough environment" that Alabama played in and now you're mysteriously leaving them out. I guess since their stadium seats about the same as MSU you no longer count them.

Columbia seemed pretty rough for us, so you tell me.

I would ask if you're trying, but it's clear you are.....trying too hard.
 
#49
#49
It never ceases to amaze me how many Vol fans spring into full-throated aggressive defense of uga. It happens with no other program on these boards. Heck, half the time you end up with a Vol fan slamming Tennessee in their defense of uga.

They will claim "just stating facts". However there is a big difference with correcting what you perceive to be an inaccuracy and going full bore pro uga and often anti Tennessee.

Damndest thing you'll see on these boards. I guess if it makes you happy, go for.it.
 
#50
#50
VolsSportsFan said:
Lol like I said, cherry picking. You originally had Ole Miss listed as a "tough environment" that Alabama played in and now you're mysteriously leaving them out. I guess since their stadium seats about the same as MSU you no longer count them.

Columbia seemed pretty rough for us, so you tell me.

I would ask if you're trying, but it's clear you are.....trying too hard.
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Columbia and Starkville are not considered tough road environments. As stated, I haven't seen Georgia challenged all season long. We will see how they handle Ohio State.
 
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