Should Commitments be binding?

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g8terh8ter_eric

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Who here believes that once you commit to a school, that you should be off limits to all other schools, and you have to cease contacting other schools as well??

Just wondering, mainly because I believe this should be the case if you make a public commitment. Now, until you do that, anything is in play.

I also think that there should be an early signing period in September 1st before NSD, and schools should be allowed to extend official offers to kids Jan. 1st of their sophomore years.
 
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I'd be fine with earlier offers, but not locking kids into decisions any earlier than the way it already is.
 
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kptvol said:
I'd be fine with earlier offers, but not locking kids into decisions any earlier than the way it already is.
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Why even have commitments then?? I don't understand the premise of allowing that to happen, while allowing them to actively be recruited by another school and having to babysit them constantly.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Why even have commitments then?? I don't understand the premise of allowing that to happen, while allowing them to actively be recruited by another school and having to babysit them constantly.
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There's nothing official about a commitment. No one is allowing anything. That can't be restricted.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Why even have commitments then?? I don't understand the premise of allowing that to happen, while allowing them to actively be recruited by another school and having to babysit them constantly.
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They weren't designed originally to be what they've become in this media crazed world eric. Hence, they aren't properly setup. They are simply a kids word to a coach. The only reason we know about it is because people interview, and write about it. Does the NCAA even address/ and or care about "verbal" commitments??
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I think they need to come up with a term more fitting than commitment, since they aren't.

As for making guys off limits. you're locking a kid into a choice if he makes a knee jerk decision, with no escape hatch.
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no. people make mistakes. you cannot force a player to go to a school he doesn't want to. it's not your life to decide.
 
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kptvol said:
There's nothing official about a commitment. No one is allowing anything. That can't be restricted.
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Orangekush423 said:
They weren't designed originally to be what they've become in this media crazed world eric. Hence, they aren't properly setup. They are simply a kids word to a coach. The only reason we know about it is because people interview, and write about it. Does the NCAA even address/ and or care about "verbal" commitments??
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Then we shouldn't call them anything then, IMO. Just kids who are interested if they can still be recruited by other schools.
 
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JTrainDavis said:
I think they need to come up with a term more fitting than commitment, since they aren't.

As for making guys off limits. you're locking a kid into a choice if he makes a knee jerk decision, with no escape hatch.
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No no, you can decommit, but you would have to do so before having contact with another staff. You can't commit and still talk to other schools.
 
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By locking them in it'd be like saying you have to stay at a certain job for so many years even if a better offer comes along...whoa anyone else have deja vu there?
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Then we shouldn't call them anything then, IMO. Just kids who are interested if they can still be recruited by other schools.
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There are still plenty of Austin Johnson types out there that will commit eons before NSD and hold true to their word. I think things are fine the way they are. People just follow this stuff so closely now and get too worked up. I swear there were some posters on here crying when Bryce Brown and Terrelle Pryor kept delaying their decisions.
 
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I say theyre fair game.
I think we'll see an early signing period sooner than later tho
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Who here believes that once you commit to a school, that you should be off limits to all other schools, and you have to cease contacting other schools as well??


Just wondering, mainly because I believe this should be the case if you make a public commitment. Now, until you do that, anything is in play.

I also think that there should be an early signing period in September 1st before NSD, and schools should be allowed to extend official offers to kids Jan. 1st of their sophomore years.
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Wasn't this idea something that coaches such as Fulmer and more notably, Mack Brown championed? It would definitely help these coaches who landed the early commits. It would also cut down on the slow-playing and use of "silent committing." CLK and Co. would not be fans of this. Basically it would save a lot of schools beaucoup monies on their recruiting budgets. It would also keep a Top Ten recruiting class in place should a sudden coaching change on the West Coast occur.
 
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an LOI is what locks them into their decision. if people get so butthurt about 17 year old kids changing their minds, they shouldn't follow recruiting imho.
 
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Like I said to JTrain, if they commit they can't talk to other schools, if you choose to decommit later, you can talk with whomever you want to, including the school you decommitted from.
 
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kptvol said:
There are still plenty of Austin Johnson types out there that will commit eons before NSD and hold true to their word. I think things are fine the way they are. People just follow this stuff so closely now and get too worked up. I swear there were some posters on here crying when Bryce Brown and Terrelle Pryor kept delaying their decisions.
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agree with this.

and recruiting wouldn't be nearly as fun to follow imo.
 
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I think in order to make a public commitment a player should have to do it in the form of a tattoo of the school's logo on a shoulder. Then they would take it a bit more seriously.
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Lord Vader said:
an LOI is what locks them into their decision. if people get so butthurt about 17 year old kids changing their minds, they shouldn't follow recruiting imho.
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These kids change their minds because every coach promises them everything they want to hear. They don't know what is real or not, and it sucks for them honestly.
 
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Actually I agree on two things here. Once a kid is offered they are offered. This conditional offer crap is just that. Basically leading a kid on hoping someone higher on the board commits first.

Second if a kid makes a verbal commit I agree that other schools have to back off unless that kid initiates first. Basically once the kid officially annouces he is reopening his commitment all bets are off. But to go along with that once a kid commits he should not take anymore visits. If you are unsure than do not commit. If they do or opening back up their commitment they no longer have an offer from the school that they originally commited to unless that school offers again.

All this conditional and I am commited but still want to look is a joke. Either you are or you are not and either the school wants you or they do not.
 
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I'd do away with the celebrity treatment of some of these kids by ESPN. The doffing of the cap thing is old and worn out.
 
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TideWarrior said:
Actually I agree on two things here. Once a kid is offered they are offered. This conditional offer crap is just that. Basically leading a kid on hoping someone higher on the board commits first.

Second if a kid makes a verbal commit I agree that other schools have to back off unless that kid initiates first. Basically once the kid officially annouces he is reopening his commitment all bets are off. But to go along with that once a kid commits he should not take anymore visits. If you are unsure than do not commit. If they do or opening back up their commitment they no longer have an offer from the school that they originally commited to unless that school offers again.

All this conditional and I am commited but still want to look is a joke. Either you are or you are not and either the school wants you or they do not.
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I agree 120% with your other provisions.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
These kids change their minds because every coach promises them everything they want to hear. They don't know what is real or not, and it sucks for them honestly.
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how do you know it sucks for them? have you been recruited?

absolutely pointless thread is absolutely pointless
 
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